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[Nameless one7]

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

 I was sucked into anime when I was a kid back in the 90s( I was probably about 9-10 years old) and they played an awesome old anime called Tekkaman Blade(aka. Teknoman in English)on one of the morning cartoon shows here in Australia. 

Both my brother and I were obsessed with that show and I used to watch it before going to school everyday. That's when my passion for anime began.

Currently I am watching Clannad After Story, waiting for the second half of Fate Zero:wub: and probably going to start watching Sengoku Basara Season 2 soon.

I'm glad you posted this as that's an anime I watched growing up to but never knew it's name, now I'm gonna have to go back and watch it.

[Luvinn]

Some favorites of mine are:
Cowboy Bebop
Monster
Evangelion
FLCL
Death Note
Sekirei (boobies FTW!)
Code Geass
Ghost in the Shell:SAC
Darker than Black

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

I mainly wanted to start here, because I actually watched some Dragon Ball (the original) recently. It was funny, because it's very different than DBZ, much less the usual scream-and-fight shonen, more like a gag anime. Though what really strikes me is the difference between dubbed and subbed. The English-languaged one is totally a different anime - they skipped all words that are perceived "bad" in the west - and replaced it with very dull and parental-rating-system content. It's not just words, episodes are just dubbed meaningless and without anything funny, in the process.

I guess the audience for this one was both adults and children in Japan, with an attitude more tolerant towards topics that could make westeners mad. In America, it is dull, and not at all funny.

What do you guys think (Some Geth?)?

Nice of you to want to know what I think since I do know a lot about manga/anime and I am a Dragon Ball fan.

Anyway Dragon Ball and DBZ are not that different, the manga had no name change for one it was always just "Dragon Ball". Sure the DBZ part of the story had more filler and screams but that was all only in the anime, it was still a gag series, like here is a summary of the Freeza saga but with the meanings(and some ohter funny bits) of all the characters names.

"A carrot and piccolo team up to fight a radish, who have stolen the carrot's son, cooked rice.    

After the piccolo killed the carrot and radish, he took the cooked rice to train to fight against the vegetables. A powerful alien race who eradicated their rivals the fruits under the lordship of a freezer.    

The piccolo and cooked rice are aided by a monk chestnut , jiioza, a bandit that dates bloomers, and a guy that dates Lunch.    

The cooked rice and chestnut travel to namek, where they fight dairy products.

THE END"



Still with the fights of Dragon Ball, it was always going down that path since the end of the Pilaf arc, the very first arc, it started to become a gag/battle manga. Funny story about that too because Dragon Ball was only going to last the Pilaf arc but Toriyama wanted to make it into a martial arts story and so here we have Dragon Ball as we know it.

And that is what is great about Dragon Ball it was never too serious, save for the Cell arc but then it got better by the Boo arc. It's just a fun series that takes a lot from Joueney to the West and makes it goofy with some really cool fights.

As for the Dragon Ball dubs I hate them all with good reason because of the change in dialoque, plot, characters and jokes. Hell even Christopher Sabat the ADR director of the Dragon Ball dubs and Line Producer of the Dragon Ball Kai dub has said back when they were first dubbing Dragon Ball they had no clue what they were doing.

By the way "Shonen" and "Seinen" are really just demographics and as for if they are meaningful? yes and no, like look at Dragon Ball it's shonen it's for kid boys but everyone can like it, now look at Hunter x Hunter and Death Note they are shonen but if I had kids I would most likely wait until they are a bit older for them to read/watch them.
Now look at Fist Of the North Star and Barefoot Gen they are both shonen as well but no way in hell would I let my kids read/watch them until they are older. 

Seinen is only defined by it's level of mature content, not the quality of it. Gantz is seinen, and it's a juvenile pile of vomit that could never even approach One Piece or even Dragon Ball's more resonant moments. It's just that Gantz has nudity, sexuality, gorey violence, and aims it's attitude at older teenagers.

As for some of the people here who don't think manga/anime is art... you know nothing of Osamu Tezuka.

Oh and Stanley Woo since you like Mecha anime, have you seen GaoGaiGar?

Modifié par Some Geth, 22 janvier 2012 - 07:53 .

[ObserverStatus]

IMO there has never been a greater Anime than Pokemon. At least the first series. After the original VA's quit, Misty left the team, and Team Rocket stopped cross dressing and being evil, the show lost its magic.

[Clover Rider]

bobobo878 wrote...

IMO there has never been a greater Anime than Pokemon. At least the first series. After the original VA's quit, Misty left the team, and Team Rocket stopped cross dressing and being evil, the show lost its magic.

Team Rocket is back to being evil.

And yeah the dub lost the voice actors(they did not quit by the way) and magic but the Japanese version still has all that.

Modifié par Some Geth, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:05 .

[C9316]

I watched a lot of anime when I was kid, more than I bother to remember. But the ones that have had a lasting effect on me were Code Geass, and Eureka 7. Those two were just master pieces if I say so myself, and what can I say I love good old war stories with a side of mecha. To be honest though I don't like those anime so much because they are anime but because they told an interesting and compelling story.

[ObserverStatus]

Some Geth wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

IMO there has never been a greater Anime than Pokemon. At least the first series. After the original VA's quit, Misty left the team, and Team Rocket stopped cross dressing and being evil, the show lost its magic.

Team Rocket is back to being evil.

And yeah the dub lost the voice actors(they did not quit by the way) and magic but the Japanese version still has all that.

still has what?

[Clover Rider]

bobobo878 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

IMO there has never been a greater Anime than Pokemon. At least the first series. After the original VA's quit, Misty left the team, and Team Rocket stopped cross dressing and being evil, the show lost its magic.

Team Rocket is back to being evil.

And yeah the dub lost the voice actors(they did not quit by the way) and magic but the Japanese version still has all that.

still has what?

Their original voice actors and their magic.

[C9316]

Y'all still watch pokemon? Animal cruelty was cute back then but now it ain't so cute...

[Ghost Lightning]

Dragonball Z and Gurren Lagann are my favorites. But I also liked G Gundam.

[Clover Rider]

C9316 wrote...

Y'all still watch pokemon? Animal cruelty was cute back then but now it ain't so cute...

I put it on time to time, not really a big fan of it but it makes a good time waster.

Modifié par Some Geth, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:10 .

[C9316]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Dragonball Z

I liked it up to the end of the Cell Saga, it should have ended there. At least then we wouldn't have the nonsense that the Buu saga introduced.

[Flashflame58]

The thing about Pokemon is if it's after the first 151, it's not cool.

[Clover Rider]

C9316 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Dragonball Z

I liked it up to the end of the Cell Saga, it should have ended there. At least then we wouldn't have the nonsense that the Buu saga introduced.

Nope, Boo arc had Toriyama's groove back.

[ObserverStatus]

Flashflame58 wrote...

The thing about Pokemon is if it's after the first 151, it's not cool.

not true, G/S was awesome.

[Flashflame58]

bobobo878 wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

The thing about Pokemon is if it's after the first 151, it's not cool.

not true, G/S was awesome.

Yeah, you're right.

[C9316]

Some Geth wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Dragonball Z

I liked it up to the end of the Cell Saga, it should have ended there. At least then we wouldn't have the nonsense that the Buu saga introduced.

Nope, Boo arc had Toriyama's groove back.

If allowing two kids to have ssj with no effort, once again making Goku the star of the show (despite the touching scene of him bidding gohan farewell), using gohan's plot potential once again and delegating anyone who wasn't saiyan into comic relief is Toriyama's groove I'd rather he lose it again.

[HiddenKING]

Dragon Ball. Latin Dub FTW!

[Ghost Lightning]

C9316 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Dragonball Z

I liked it up to the end of the Cell Saga, it should have ended there. At least then we wouldn't have the nonsense that the Buu saga introduced.

Nope, Boo arc had Toriyama's groove back.

If allowing two kids to have ssj with no effort, once again making Goku the star of the show (despite the touching scene of him bidding gohan farewell), using gohan's plot potential once again and delegating anyone who wasn't saiyan into comic relief is Toriyama's groove I'd rather he lose it again.

Overall I liked the Buu saga. It characterized Vegeta and Goku's relationship to it's peak. Maybe it's just my bias, as Veg is my favorite DB character, but I found a lot of Buu saga to be very well done. But some of it (okay, a lot) was pointless filler. 

[C9316]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Dragonball Z

I liked it up to the end of the Cell Saga, it should have ended there. At least then we wouldn't have the nonsense that the Buu saga introduced.

Nope, Boo arc had Toriyama's groove back.

If allowing two kids to have ssj with no effort, once again making Goku the star of the show (despite the touching scene of him bidding gohan farewell), using gohan's plot potential once again and delegating anyone who wasn't saiyan into comic relief is Toriyama's groove I'd rather he lose it again.

Overall I liked the Buu saga. It characterized Vegeta and Goku's relationship to it's peak. Maybe it's just my bias, as Veg is my favorite DB character, but I found a lot of Buu saga to be very well done. But some of it (okay, a lot) was pointless filler. 

it also didn't help that Buu was just a 'derp' villian simply destroying things just to destroy. At least Frieza and Cell had some sort of motives.

[Ghost Lightning]

C9316 wrote...
it also didn't help that Buu was just a 'derp' villian simply destroying things just to destroy. At least Frieza and Cell had some sort of motives.

that was my main problem (other than the useless myriad powerups that were just beaten out by buu a second later). I think Babidi should have lived longer, or at least "Super" Buu should have formed some motive other than "I like to kill stuff". 

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 22 janvier 2012 - 08:29 .

[Laamaa]

I love manga (and anime) , right now, I'm reading Fairy Tail. Thinking about starting One Piece too

[PaulSX]

Gundam is probably the only anime series I used to like. Current Gundam anime is becoming more and more childish and I really can not get into them. I loved the 'ancient' titles like Gundam 0080, 0083, Z and Char's counter attack. Those are all made with complex war theme, well-thought characters and romances. oh, the good old times.

Modifié par suntzuxi, 22 janvier 2012 - 09:02 .

[Homebound]

gundam wing is best gundam.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I personally dislike it. I played practically every great RPG that there ever was made (except Fallout 1, but that will soon be corrected) - but not any of the Final Fantasies - for one reason that its a 'wired' anime.

I mean i like 'wired' things actually - Shadowman, Planescape Torment, Sacrifice, etc... But i view anime often as naive and foolish, and those are the things i just outright hate in person. Not to mention absolutely ridicules look of some characters that completely put me off - females look like they are 10 years old with Pamela Anderson 'meshes' + the BIG eyes - i would have no problem if they have meshes of Pamela Anderson but dose`t look like they are ten. Its giving me impression that all of the anime makes are pedophiles. And males look like they are all transexuals, while the older guys are all copy of that 'master' guy from Karate Kid or Kill Bill.

I think the only character i actually ever liked with "anime" style was Dante from Devil May Cry, and even that is pushing it.