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[PhroXenGold]

The iDOLM@STER: Cinderella Girls

Episode 13: Final Wars

Thoughts

Spoiler

The big show has arrived, and Lacross girl is out with a stress related fever. Leaving Ranko to pick up the slack. Which she does. Then a ****** thunderstorm hits, causing a blackout. Because even God hates the Cinderella Project apparently. But after that, they all pull in a grand performance, and New Generations discovers they were fated to meet each other or whatever.

 

This wasn't a bad episode, as a finale it's pretty good. However, it's not up to par with the mid season finale of OG iM@S, due to the characters and story not being as engaging. I wasn't exactly worried anything bad was going to happen, and I wasn't all that invested in what was going on (Given the ridiculousness of a random thunderstorm)

I didn't particularly feel for Lacross Girl like I did for Miki or Chihaya. Ya feel me?

Thankfully Kiss Anime's version of the episode was a finished one, so props for that.

 

Cinderella Girls Final Thoughts.

Spoiler

A rough start that lasts partway through a show is not a good thing, and while Cinderella Girls does turn it around by the end. It doesn't excuse the overall forgettable cast. I mentioned the ones I liked (Anya, Ranko, Rin, Rika), but even Rin got on my nerves once and a while, and that's not even touching on how much Anzu annoyed me with every word she spoke, or Kirari and her weird mouth.

 

I did like the producer though...Mostly because he looks like me without my glasses.

 

When compared to the Original iDOLM@STER, it falls flat. Because Cinderella Girls feels like a paint by numbers replica of it. So there's no actual identity, just a poor copy done in crayon.

 

I'm not going to say it's a horrible show. But it's not particularly good either. As I said before, it's The Dark Knight Rises of Anime. Parts to like, but alot of questionable stuff and irrational characters to keep it from being close to its predecessors level.

It's just a generic show.

That's the beginning and end of it.

 

Bah, Xenglosssia is best iDOLM@STER....

[TheClonesLegacy]

Bah, Xenglosssia is best iDOLM@STER....

Chihaya's an old lady in that.

0/10.

[PhroXenGold]

Chihaya's an old lady in that.

0/10.

 

But it has mecha. And as every true anime fan knows, everything is better with mecha.

[TheClonesLegacy]

But it has mecha. And as every true anime fan knows, everything is better with mecha.

I've said this before. Strangely Gurren Lagann, Megas XLR, and Pacific Rim are the only Mecha things I've particularly liked.

And my homeboy MechaGodzilla of course.

[PhroXenGold]

I've said this before. Strangely Gurren Lagann, Megas XLR, and Pacific Rim are the only Mecha things I've particularly liked.

And my homeboy MechaGodzilla of course.

 

Ah, but all the shows without mecha that you like would've been even better had they had mecha in them.

[Gravisanimi]

Akame ga Kill didn't get better with mecha in it...

[TheClonesLegacy]

Ah, but all the shows without mecha that you like would've been even better had they had mecha in them.

Everything would be better with MechaGodzilla and his Space Ape creators. That's just a given.

[PhroXenGold]

Everything would be better with MechaGodzilla and his Space Ape creators. That's just a given.

 

Well of course.

[CrazyRah]

Akame ga Kill didn't get better with mecha in it...

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

 

Traumatic experience

 

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

[Jehuty]

Well, I've finally found the Sora No Otoshimono manga. I'm reading it now... Since my xbox took in some water and is now drying I have nothing better to do and I've always wanted to read the manga. 

 

I've already noticed some differences between the anime and the manga. (Nymph hasn't arrived yet).  

 

I'm on chapter 06. Needless to say, I'm enjoying the manga as much as the show, plus there is some differences so it isn't entirely the same.  

And that is one very nice picture of Ikaros right there...

[Liamv2]

Sora No Otoshimono? I may be wrong but is that the thing with the flying panties? I recall that being a thing.

[Jehuty]

Sora No Otoshimono? I may be wrong but is that the thing with the flying panties? I recall that being a thing.

Heaven's Lost Property did have flying panties and other weird stuff such as the pantie robo and other silly things. 

They even had a chicken the size of a skyscraper in the movie, Angeloid of clockwork. 

 

The angeloids are the best though... Ikaros and Nymph for the win! 

[Chewin]

Explain to me oh great CHewin, what moment in Zero did Saber ever get interesting, not run her mouth with Knight code **** or look like a little girl playing King?

 

Because I can name several scenes where Rider and Gil did more for the plot and characters, along with having one of the best scenes in the whole LN/show

 

As you wish, since you ask so kindly.

 

Spoiler

First of all, as Paragon made already stated, I was deliberately pointing a stick at you since you do have a tendency to pick on her almost every time she comes up in discussions, usually in quite a provocative manner since you seem to simplify her as character a lot. I myself found Rider and Gil to me more interesting in terms of what Zero presented on its own, which is bolstered by both having two characters that complement them--Kirei and Waver. They actively mirror each others personalities and most prominently their desires. While it is similar with Saber and Kiritsugu, their relationship is vastly inferior when compared to the other two. Due to this the show tries to have Saber stand on her own, and while she isn't as dynamic as the others and does indeed frequently associate with her code across the series, she isn't a less interesting character for it since her role in unsheathing her idealism is quite fascinating (for me at least).

 

As the show makes it clear, Saber embodies the ideal of honor; she exists for the people and obliges her subjects to do the same, without question since she deems them as obvious rules to follow. She has a stark view on deontological ethics, which is only true to her identity since she is King Arthur, and anyone who is familiar with the Arthurian cycle in Matter of Britain will know how romanticized the stories are, which in Saber case is the one that is centered on the destruction of human virtues by moral failures. Through Saber's POV, the role of kingship is of that to be a saint of sorts. While embodying rules of serving the people, she unknowingly puts herself above others as some sort of beacon for people to follow. As much as she comes across as selfless, she is actually quite selfish in her pursuits since she blindly imposes her own selfless ideals to her subjects, without any thought to how they feel. In short, she is a hypocrite and she only realizes this when Rider brings up her flaws. 

 

However, that doesn't make him better for it. Sure, Rider is no hypocrite--since he knows what he accomplished, both right and wrong. Though his reasoning is quite frankly primitive, which is made evident in "The Banquet of Kings" when Iskander doesn't regret that his country fell into chaos and that he fully admits he is a tyrant. Yeah no, that is the most absurd thing I've heard and he immediately fails as a state leader. And arguably that is what both Saber, Gil and Rider bring to the table--it isn't kingship in the form of an actual working government, but their viewpoints of a functioning society based on on their own perceived idea of social justice. All three have their own rights and wrongs, by bring their own ideas and arguments, but ultimately I'd dismiss them all. Saber would rank the highest though.

 

So yes, Saber promotes her code and her character is surrounded by it, but compared to the others, she embodies it the strongest alone and is a reason why I find her interesting. And really, since apparently it isn't clear enough--what someone finds interesting is up to personal opinion.

[Chewin]

I'm living for this ending!!!!!

 

 

 

Yeah it is one awesome track. Wait till you hear the 5th one, if you haven't already.

 

Hisoka vs Kastro was freaking awesome!!!!!

 

Spoiler

And I loved how Little Miss Stitches helped break it down for viewers while she was talking with Hisoka afterwards.

 

Also, naked showering Hisoka, hell yes!!!

 

Dat card trick though!

[Zekka]

Has anyone watched "Humanity has declined"?
If you have, what is it about because the first episode was Weird.

[Chewin]

And since we are on the topic of Hunter x Hunter (House & Rex, don't open).

 

Spoiler

 

Finally! About f*cking time!

 

I understand Netero's reasoning for not sitting down and talk, but God do I wish he had! Would have loved to hear more of what King would say. Hopefully more appears, though I don't believe this arc has many episodes left.

[Liamv2]

Has anyone watched "Humanity has declined"?
If you have, what is it about because the first episode was Weird.

 

Yes. it's awesome. It's a mix of small arcs what each arc is about becomes apparent over time.

[Jehuty]

When will it hit 2200? 

[Jehuty]

Come on, let's go to the 2200th page. 

[Jehuty]

Nope. Not yet. 

[Jehuty]

Not this again... 

[Liamv2]

I finished heavens feel. It's amazing. Awful. But amazing. I'm actually surprised at myself. No bad endings and the true ending first try.

[Zeroth Angel]

I finished heavens feel. It's amazing. Awful. But amazing. I'm actually surprised at myself. No bad endings and the true ending first try.

The only bad ending I got first time was Mind of steel.

 

Oh and I got the normal ending first time.

 

Speaking about that, now go and get the amazing happy HF normal ending.

[CrazyRah]

Come on, let's go to the 2200th page. 

 

Look it wasn't appreciated when you did it to reach 2100 so quit doing it