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[Mr.House]

Well that was a bit... lackluster. Still a great episode, but disappointing on that one aspect (every VNer here knows what I mean).

Yeah. Angle, Rah and I have voiced our disappointment over it. Milan did too on steam chat. Beast Lair is also not pleased, tho I'm seeing alot of praise on HB.

[TheClonesLegacy]

PSG is a fun show.

 

It's stupid but fun.

 

Also, dat OST.

[Dr.Fumbles]

Gunslinger Stratos came out today. I need to watch it.

[Chewin]

UBW.

 

Spoiler

Great episode! I am more than pleased by the outcome that the episode achieved.

 

My speculations on Archer were right--he has acted as a Guardian who has repeatedly been summoned to aid humanity throughout different eras, only having been met with disappointment after disappointment, which has during his cycle turned him into the cynical individual that he is. This is a prominent feature that I've been waiting for to reveal in some fashion, and I am pleased that it ended up being as I envisioned it. Archer is quite a model byronic hero, and I value stories that properly delve into what exactly has made the person so disillusioned from society, which the show managed to portray quite effectively. It is of course made ever so stronger with how it ties to Shirou, and how it reflects that despite his stark views on his ideals, even he can be broken to such an extent. Truly enjoyed that Archer called out on Shirou's stubbornness and how he brought forward that simply thinking that it will get better if Shirou believes in himself will make things go as he wants, was great. In addition that Saber / Rin was just glorious!

 

Speaking of which, I'm also very pleased by Saber and how it came around. For a character that has a relatively minor role in the story, it is always an appreciated quality that she isn't simply sidelined completely, aside from fight sequences. She isn't that much of a character, and having Archer remark (more pointedly this time around) upon Saber's own wish and where she actually stands, is a welcome aspect for sure. Shirou earlier directly asked her what she is fighting for, to which she naturally dismissed, and having in this episode seeing a glimpse upon her character is vital to shape her and simply out right characterize her within the context of the story. Having the ever so iconic glimpse upon the battle of Camlann visible--visualizing her struggles that she fought for--and establishing Saber's chivalrous nature, was something that pleased me greatly since I was afraid these qualities would be dismissed entirely. 

 

Unlimited Blade Works had a solid build up, but was cut short way too quickly. Archer's chant and the utilization of visuals along with the tone of the music made for a very hectic scenario, and for me it was a joy to see it in full splendor... to a point at least. It was nice to see the revelation of what that place is, and I really had a "you guys are f*cked" feeling during that scene, especially how menacing Archer'stone was (great work from the VA there). This is also one of those scenarios where one can call a narrative ass pull regarding Shirou's role in the marble, but considering how the story has established him as a capable "projectionist", and how Shirou reflected upon knowing the workings of the marble, it works within the context of what the anime has established. Though really, why did Ufotable cut that scene instantaneously like that? I couldn't help but think that the studio suddenly went like "errrr guys, you know that awesome Archer scene? Well it turns out we spent our budget on that Lancer fight earlier, so we're gonna have to cut it short here". Not disappointed, but I was expecting a bit more, considering that the anime's name is frikking UBW!

 

Rin's dialog with Archer was striking, and she knows what to say and put forward, just as I expected she would. That's mah gurl!

 

Also dat Gil / Archer face off!!! I couldn't help but smirk like a goofball, in how they just coldly stared at each other. I don't think they will clash, since I expect events to turn out differently than I'd expect, but boy would I love to see it.

 

All in all, plot wise some solid moments, but I feel Ufotable cut their budget a bit short on this particular episode, for some reason.

[Mr.House]

Here Chewin, to clear up something that you found almost an asspull.

 

Spoiler

In the VN, Shirou read every sword and created his own Rain of Swords because he knew Saber would not be able to survive it and she would die (we know Saber is not good with range stuff from Zero) and fights with Archer, closing his eyes and he survives till UBW falls. This is my major complaint with Ufotable as  they pulled the same crap DEEN did in the UBW movie. Another big difference is Archer does not use projection UBW, he simply manipulates the world because it is his ala he raises them and then fires them at a faster rate then even GoB.

[Chewin]

Why did Ufotable makes such a change? lol

 

Spoiler

I have no issues with Shirou tackling Archer's swords, but Archer projecting them made me go all "errr, you know, there are swords like... everywhere?Not gonna use them? Ok cool guess not".

 

Well anyway, I'm viewing it from an anime point of view so I can't judge it on merits as you guys, but I can certainly share the frustration. Breaking lore like that is just confusing.

[Mr.House]

I'm getting chewed out on HB because of my opinion on ep18. XD

[Liamv2]

Why did Ufotable makes such a change? lol

 

Unlimited budget worries.

[Paragon Gabriel]

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the episode, Chewy!

I can see from your POV, considering that you haven't read the VN, but we certainly are disappointed by UBW since, as you said, it is a big moment.

[Milan92]

UBW.

 

Spoiler

Great episode! I am more than pleased by the outcome that the episode achieved.

 

My speculations on Archer were right--he has acted as a Guardian who has repeatedly been summoned to aid humanity throughout different eras, only having been met with disappointment after disappointment, which has during his cycle turned him into the cynical individual that he is. This is a prominent feature that I've been waiting for to reveal in some fashion, and I am pleased that it ended up being as I envisioned it. Archer is quite a model byronic hero, and I value stories that properly delve into what exactly has made the person so disillusioned from society, which the show managed to portray quite effectively. It is of course made ever so stronger with how it ties to Shirou, and how it reflects that despite his stark views on his ideals, even he can be broken to such an extent. Truly enjoyed that Archer called out on Shirou's stubbornness and how he brought forward that simply thinking that it will get better if Shirou believes in himself will make things go as he wants, was great. In addition that Saber / Rin was just glorious!

 

Speaking of which, I'm also very pleased by Saber and how it came around. For a character that has a relatively minor role in the story, it is always an appreciated quality that she isn't simply sidelined completely, aside from fight sequences. She isn't that much of a character, and having Archer remark (more pointedly this time around) upon Saber's own wish and where she actually stands, is a welcome aspect for sure. Shirou earlier directly asked her what she is fighting for, to which she naturally dismissed, and having in this episode seeing a glimpse upon her character is vital to shape her and simply out right characterize her within the context of the story. Having the ever so iconic glimpse upon the battle of Camlann visible--visualizing her struggles that she fought for--and establishing Saber's chivalrous nature, was something that pleased me greatly since I was afraid these qualities would be dismissed entirely. 

 

Unlimited Blade Works had a solid build up, but was cut short way too quickly. Archer's chant and the utilization of visuals along with the tone of the music made for a very hectic scenario, and for me it was a joy to see it in full splendor... to a point at least. It was nice to see the revelation of what that place is, and I really had a "you guys are f*cked" feeling during that scene, especially how menacing Archer'stone was (great work from the VA there). This is also one of those scenarios where one can call a narrative ass pull regarding Shirou's role in the marble, but considering how the story has established him as a capable "projectionist", and how Shirou reflected upon knowing the workings of the marble, it works within the context of what the anime has established. Though really, why did Ufotable cut that scene instantaneously like that? I couldn't help but think that the studio suddenly went like "errrr guys, you know that awesome Archer scene? Well it turns out we spent our budget on that Lancer fight earlier, so we're gonna have to cut it short here". Not disappointed, but I was expecting a bit more, considering that the anime's name is frikking UBW!

 

Rin's dialog with Archer was striking, and she knows what to say and put forward, just as I expected she would. That's mah gurl!

 

Also dat Gil / Archer face off!!! I couldn't help but smirk like a goofball, in how they just coldly stared at each other. I don't think they will clash, since I expect events to turn out differently than I'd expect, but boy would I love to see it.

 

All in all, plot wise some solid moments, but I feel Ufotable cut their budget a bit short on this particular episode, for some reason.

 

The VN readers are a bit miffed with the episode (rightly so), but its great to see that non-readers were able to enjoy it

[Mr.House]

Ufotable changed the name to Limited Blade Works, that's why.

[Dr.Fumbles]

So, I was always confused on why Archer used swords(I know who he is from Zero, so that part makes sense. His class roll doesn't.) rather then actual bows and arrows like a real archer would.

[Chewin]

I'm getting chewed out on HB because of my opinion on ep18. XD

 

Haha, I bet!

 

Unlimited budget worries.

 

"Hey Steve, you know that awesome UBW moment?"

 

"What about it, Jim?"

 

"Well we only have a million bucks for it, instead of two like the rest of the cool scenes"

 

"God dammit, Jim!"

[Lotion Soronarr]

Regarding that

 

Spoiler

 

It's crap. I don't mind them changing it.

Shirou struggles maintaining two blades and collapses a minute before that.

Yet then he suddenly can project a hunderd blades?

 

Still, the short chant is a crime and the UBW itself could have used more time to portray it's scale, and the music selection was lacking.

 

Also, what's with Gilgamesh calling Archer a faker?

HOW CAN HE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ARCHER?

[CrazyRah]

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the episode, Chewy!

I can see from your POV, considering that you haven't read the VN, but we certainly are disappointed by UBW since, as you said, it is a big moment.

 

I can also completely understand and see where people without any VN experience come from and it's kind of handy to then match it up with how I feel and see exactly where "we" differentiate. Not going to change how I feel but it tend to make it more clear why I feel a certain way

[Milan92]

Regarding that

 

Spoiler

 

It's crap. I don't mind them changing it.

Shirou struggles maintaining two blades and collapses a minute before that.

Yet then he suddenly can project a hunderd blades?

 

Still, the short chant is a crime and the UBW itself could have used more time to portray it's scale, and the music selection was lacking.

 

Also, what's with Gilgamesh calling Archer a faker?

HOW CAN HE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ARCHER?

 

He knows Archer is... well Archer.

 

Gil considers himself the only true Archer. Hence why he calls him a faker.

[Chewin]

The VN readers are a bit miffed with the episode (rightly so), but its great to see that non-readers were able to enjoy it

 

Well it is understandable, since generally VNs are experiencing the anime as a means to witness key moments in the novel visualized, so great weight is put on these moments.

 

While I as an anime watcher, am focusing primarily on the narrative side. Visuals are more of a secondary factor. 

[TheClonesLegacy]

So, I was always confused on why Archer used swords(I know who he is from Zero, so that part makes sense. His class roll doesn't.) rather then actual bows and arrows like a real archer would.

The requirements just seem to be "Anyone that uses ranged combat"

So in theory even someone with a gun could qualify.

 

Same as how Serial Killers can qualify for Assassin.

[Milan92]

Well it is understandable, since generally VNs are experiencing the anime as a means to witness key moments in the novel visualized, so great weight is put on these moments.

 

While I as an anime watcher, am focusing primarily on the narrative side. Visuals are more of a secondary factor. 

 

That, and we're a bit annoyed how some lore got changed

[Dr.Fumbles]

The requirements just seem to be "Anyone that uses ranged combat"

So in theory even someone with a gun could qualify.

 

Same as how Serial Killers can qualify for Assassin.

 

Ok. That makes much more sense.

[Mr.House]

Regarding that

 

Spoiler

 

It's crap. I don't mind them changing it.

Shirou struggles maintaining two blades and collapses a minute before that.

Yet then he suddenly can project a hunderd blades?

 

Still, the short chant is a crime and the UBW itself could have used more time to portray it's scale, and the music selection was lacking.

 

Also, what's with Gilgamesh calling Archer a faker?

HOW CAN HE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ARCHER?

Spoiler

Archer does not need to say the full chant to use his reality marble, he has mastered it to the point he only needs three verses. Gil also has been doing undercover work during the grail so he knows that both Archer and Shirou use projection(he does not know right then that they are the same people)

 

As for the part with Shirou, that's Ufotable ****** up and doing the samething DEEN did in their movie adaption. In the VN he created a rain of swords that caused him so much pain that he had to close his eyes, almost passed out and had to rest for almost a whole day after, if it was not for Avalon he would have most likely self destructed. The VN showed the after effects much better then Ufotable showed.

[Zeroth Angel]

So I didn't make a post about the episode from Plastic Memories last week because I honestly was somewhat confused (?) what I was supposed to think about the anime. After todays episode I'm still not entirely sure what to think about the anime.

 

You see, we're 6 episodes in and Plastic Memories is the kind of anime that tries to be a lot of things at once. It's very serious one moment then tries to go right back to SOL moments the other. 

 

Still, today's episode was a lot better and really made me care for Isla a lot. I just hope that the next episodes will be as good as this one.

 

Isla really was adorable. I wish I could show you guys the gif of that one inredibly cute moment but I really don't want to spoil it in case anyone ever watches this. So for now I'll just go with this.

 

[Liamv2]

Regarding that

 

Spoiler

Also, what's with Gilgamesh calling Archer a faker?

HOW CAN HE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ARCHER?

 

House answered the other bit.

Spoiler

I always assumed the faker thing was due to him functionally copying Gil's power.

[Mr.House]

House answered the other bit.

Spoiler

I always assumed the faker thing was due to him functionally copying Gil's power.

It is Liam. 

 

Spoiler

He pretty much states it on the last day why he calls them fakers.