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#60151
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Absolute duo might be up your alley Fumbs.


........ I feel like this is my fault for suggesting that garbage as a joke.

#60152
Lotion Soronarr

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....................This post is so stupid that it hurts. It's like you never paid any attention through the entirety of FSN, Zero and UBW.

 


>Magic

>Common Sense

 

Lol

 

So magic, which in the show clearly has limitations and rules/laws (such as projection), shouldn't have consistency or follow established rules....because?

 

Seriously, are you even trying?

 

How can ANYONE consider "it's magic" to be a good explanation is beyond me, when it can be used to justify ANYTHNIG. Literally anything. A blanket shoddy tool that can be used by even the biggest talentless hacks without thought is great according to you.

 

If you're only responses are "but it's magic" or "it doesn't have to make sense" or "you're just stupid", then it clearly shows you have no proper argument and are just desperately defending shoddy writing.



#60153
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An Anime-Stylized Wizard Did it.

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Its friday!

 

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Can't wait for more Vanilla Ice.



#60155
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Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's Friiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

 

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........ I feel like this is my fault for suggesting that garbage as a joke.

 

Liam.. what have you done!

 

 


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#60156
Liamv2

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So magic, which in the show clearly has limitations and rules/laws (such as projection), shouldn't have consistency or follow established rules....because?

 

Seriously, are you even trying?

 

How can ANYONE consider "it's magic" to be a good explanation is beyond me, when it can be used to justify ANYTHNIG. Literally anything. A blanket shoddy tool that can be used by even the biggest talentless hacks without thought is great according to you.

 

If you're only responses are "but it's magic" or "it doesn't have to make sense" or "you're just stupid", then it clearly shows you have no proper argument and are just desperately defending shoddy writing.

 

I know how magic works in the fate/ universe works. Creating a broken grail is possible. It works the same way as projecting a noble phantasm. Now I know Deen's fate is really bad so maybe it skimped on the explanations but such a thing is possible. It even get's explained how it works in UBW too unless Ufotable skimped on the explanations as well. If you desperately need to know this stuff go read the VN.


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#60157
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Liam.. what have you done!

 

Well it's more his fault for liking it.



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Liam.. what have you done!

 

The power of the harem protagonist. No one can resist it.


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#60159
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The power of the harem protagonist. No one can resist it.

 

Goddamnit Milan. I'll bomb you!



#60160
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%5BFFFpeeps%5D_Shinryaku!_Ika_Musume_10_


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#60161
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Uhhhhhhh I think you read that wrong........



#60162
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Oh :(



#60163
Liamv2

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*sigh*



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Herp derp.



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Just got done watching Oregairu ep 7 and damn Feel really knows how to adapt their stuff. That last scene was really well done.

 

Komachi is best anime Imouto!

 

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If my guessing skills are right next week's episode should have the scene that put Hachiman from one of the anime protagonists that I really liked up to one of my favorite anime protagonists. I can't wait!



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I know how magic works in the fate/ universe works. Creating a broken grail is possible. It works the same way as projecting a noble phantasm. Now I know Deen's fate is really bad so maybe it skimped on the explanations but such a thing is possible. It even get's explained how it works in UBW too unless Ufotable skimped on the explanations as well. If you desperately need to know this stuff go read the VN.

 

It is BS.

99% of thing regarding the Grail are just mind-numbingly stupid.



#60167
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It is BS.

99% of thing regarding the Grail are just mind-numbingly stupid.

 

Right whatever you say dood. It's no different to how Persona's works in Persona, how the ring works in LOTR, how Big daddys work in Bioshock, how magical girls work in PMMM, how element zero works in Mass effect, how the force works in Star wars. All fiction does this.



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Right whatever you say dood. It's no different to how Persona's works in Persona, how the ring works in LOTR, how Big daddys work in Bioshock, how magical girls work in PMMM, how element zero works in Mass effect, how the force works in Star wars. All fiction does this.

BUT IT MUST HAVE RULES STEEPED IN LOGIC THAT I DEEM ACCEPTABLE, LIAM!

 

By the way, what happened to Liam version 1?


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#60169
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BUT IT MUST HAVE RULES STEEPED IN LOGIC THAT I DEEM ACCEPTABLE, LIAM!

 

By the way, what happened to Liam version 1?

 

We don't talk about the original version.



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So magic, which in the show clearly has limitations and rules/laws (such as projection), shouldn't have consistency or follow established rules....because?

 

Seriously, are you even trying?

 

How can ANYONE consider "it's magic" to be a good explanation is beyond me, when it can be used to justify ANYTHNIG. Literally anything. A blanket shoddy tool that can be used by even the biggest talentless hacks without thought is great according to you.

 

If you're only responses are "but it's magic" or "it doesn't have to make sense" or "you're just stupid", then it clearly shows you have no proper argument and are just desperately defending shoddy writing.

You want to know something lotion? No grail war has been created by magicians, every single one has been created by a group powerful magus.So yeah, this is consistent with what is shown and known.

 

The only known time a magician even supervised it was the the creation of the Fuyuki cup, and he didn't even do anything. He was just there to supervise one of his students.


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I was going to type stuff up regarding the potential for less than stellar adaptations potentially being the issue here but my coffee wasn't strong enough for arguments so I'll just leave it where Liam did and mention that reading the VN is a good option since these things do get explained. I know it shouldn't be the case but there's always a risk when it comes to translating something from one medium to another. :S That's pretty much why I know I get wiggly and worried when books I love get made into movies and such, cause something that works well in one medium runs the risk of not making the adaption well (hi Berserk), especially considering when something like FSN is so monologue heavy and from what I've seen of both adaptations (Fate and UBW, haven't looked at Zero yet), the monologues are often overlooked. I mean it might still fail the "my realism!!!" check but the source material explains it.

 

Whoops, seems I still went on longer than I should.

 

Before going to bed last night, I got to the end of the coming home scene of night 8 in HF.

 

Spoiler

 

I love the fact that all of my mental variables have been thrown completely out of whack because of someone's involvement. Leaving that nice and vague for obvious reasons.


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When you start explaining the Force with science you ultimately ruin the mysticism it reprensents and devalue its purpose. As the prequels stand attest to.

The Force didn't need to be conformed into another equation of science, as the other films already established it as this life force thst brings life and balance to the Galaxy. Reveled in mystical elements inspired by that of eastern culture, religion and folklore.


The important thing is that it makes sense within the confined rules of said narrative's universe -- Like say Stein's Gate, which I'm still writing something on :P

Although given Star Wars established nature as that of "sci-fi-fantasy" it's already being obtuse with that of things like "hyperdrives" and how they make ships fly at the speed of light.
Because that's not the story it wants to tell -- It does not want to talk about humanity finding it's place among the stars, but rather more of an epic fantasy story, where heroic rebels rage war against a tyrrannical empire.
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#60173
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When you start explaining the Force with science you ultimately ruin the mysticism it reprensents and devalue its purpose. As the prequels stand attest to.

The Force didn't need to be conformed into another equation of science, as the other films already established it as this life force thst brings life and balance to the Galaxy. Reveled in mystical elements inspired by that of eastern culture, religion and folklore.

The important thing is that it makes sense within the confined rules of said narrative's universe -- Like say Stein's Gate, which I'm still writing something on :P

 

Yep that's how magic (or similar things) should work. There is a point where explanations become too much. Round about the time midichlorians become a thing being a good example.



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Last day of highschool. **** YEAH!
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It's time to reveal my true power level!

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Yep that's how magic (or similar things) should work. There is a point where explanations become too much. Round about the time midichlorians become a thing being a good example.

Yup, like if these guys made a proper grail war in Strange Fake, Lotion would have a point. However, they failed hard. Really hard. So I don't see the issue.