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[CrazyRah]

Bet all 'dat Rejoicing would be reeeally something .

 

Everyones mind would be elevated to a completely new plane of existance

[The Invader]

The Phantom Troupe arc is awesome, seriously I would watch a spin off about them, hell I would actually like to see a movie about them. So far Nobunaga, Hisoka and Machi are my favorite members, but tbh I like all of them.

I wish Gon had accepted Nobunaga's offer and joined, but I'm weird like that. I don't know why, but I always end up liking the villains more than the protagonist or heroes. Oh well, maybe someday I will get an anime about the bad guys fighting against the good guys, wouldn't that be nice.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Everything in context, Lotion. That's what I think you're missing.

 

Think Puddi said something like this a while ago that I really liked. You enjoy a series and evaluate its pros and cons based off what it wants to do and what it doesn't.

 

I had this really long post written and deleted it. Mainly because coherency beyond four hundred words isn't my thing and secondly is because I feel the above speaks for itself.

 

When Saber did all her awesome-ass-sword stuff and managed to find the most impossible of openings you gotta keep in mind that she's a freaking magical 15 year old girl that's 25 and can pretty much parry a 2 ton block of iron all by herself and move like a Witcher in heavy armour.

 

Considering all these things, is it really that improbable that she'd be able to do that?

 

Sense and the laws of physics don't apply when we're talking about magic. That's what magic is for, to defy the impossible.

 

1. You forget one thing - her opponent is the same.

So it's not a matter of superman vs. normal man so he can speed blitz him.

It's superman vs. superman.

 

2. In that case, why even have magic follow ANY rules or sense?

Why not have magic re-charge by playing ping-pong? Why even have mana? It's magic, it doesn't need sense, ergo it doesn't need "fuel"..

 

 

[Jehuty]

I've been watching some more date a live.

 

I like Tohka so much. She is so entertaining for me. 

 

One of these days all my waifus are going to tie me to a bed naked... and leave me there. 

[Isichar]

I've watched Madoka 3 times already boy-o, anymore and I might be able to write novel posts about each individual episode.

And Rebellion maybe 6 times now.

Same here. I mean I've only watched the TV series twice but I've watched the movie versions of it about 4-5 times as well. TRS I've seen around 6 times as well though I've watched certain scenes so many times I've lost count. The amount of book posts I could and have done on this series are crazy.

It's amazing how much quality can be packed into such a short series. I mean LotGH, ZE, Berserk and SSY are just as amazing in their own rights but what gets me about PMMM is it's just like 6-7 hours worth of content. **** I love that series so much

[Simfam]

The Phantom Troupe arc is awesome, seriously I would watch a spin off about them, hell I would actually like to see a movie about them. So far Nobunaga, Hisoka and Machi are my favorite members, but tbh I like all of them.

I wish Gon had accepted Nobunaga's offer and joined, but I'm weird like that. I don't know why, but I always end up liking the villains more than the protagonist or heroes. Oh well, maybe someday I will get an anime about the bad guys fighting against the good guys, wouldn't that be nice.

 

In HxH case, I always preferred the antagonists to the protagonists.

 

HxH Ant Arc is another beast on itself tho'

 

1. You forget one thing - her opponent is the same.

So it's not a matter of superman vs. normal man so he can speed blitz him.

It's superman vs. superman.

 

2. In that case, why even have magic follow ANY rules or sense?

Why not have magic re-charge by playing ping-pong? Why even have mana? It's magic, it doesn't need sense, ergo it doesn't need "fuel"..

 

1. Yes but she is more magical. It's very simple Lotion, you are complicating matters for yourself. These are geniune flaws is they belonged anywhere else other than FS/N.

 

2. Magic is funny that way, you can do anything you want with it. FSN employs magic the same way a lot of other fictional works do, you see, there's a lot to do on how to require it, but little on how it actually works.

 

This is a good thing when handled well.

 

FSN handles it well.

 

Why? Well because there's a solid outline and a lot of freedom for the author to do was he wants. There are spells he can invent that weren't there before and do practically whatever he wants to do given that he follows the same rules.

 

Saber was under Rin's influence, Rin = more magic, Saber = more magic which means Saber > Warned down Assassin.

 

This is why I think one of the best magical "systems" (if you wanna put it that way) is FMA's. All you need is a circle and you will transmute X to Y. It's never explained how the process towards X nor the one between X and Y works because it doesn't need to. It's a very simple process that has a lot of freedom to move.

 

Same goes with Nen powers in HxH. Y'see, Nen has lots of 'types' but you can basically do whatever you want to within those types. A conjurer can summon a Dragon for all he cares given that he's the right type or that he has made the needed restrictions and pledges to have that dragon OP af.

 

See, the more obtuse your guidelines are the more freedom you have to do pretty much whatever you want to do with magic. It's okay as long as you follow those guidlines.

 

Make your magic too complicated and you end up with chakra.

 

I really liked chakra to begin with, but later on down the line chakra started to do whatever it wanted to do. The problem with that was that prior to chakra going crazy there was no mention to how it would go beyond its concurrent restrictions.

 

Now everything is chakra this and chakra that.

 

FSN has a really neat and complicated magic system that isn't too complex as to outdo itself and still gives Nasu a lot of room to breathe in.

 

And look.

 

You're defo not the biggest FSN critic here.

 

Were they to break the magic system to that extent and do asspulls to such diabolical proportions then I'm sure House will have pointed it out ASAP as he has done before.

[Simfam]

Ugh. Now I'm gonna go into my Tolkien roots and bring up this neat little essay I read in TOR.

 

There seem to be almost as many ways of representing magic as there are fantasy writers. Role-players know the whole system with mages, spell components, spellbooks, the language of magic, etc. Jordan fans can tell you the ins and outs of the One Power, complete with a discourse on the varying characteristics of saidar and saidin, and the innumerable levels of strength among Aes Sedai. And Star Wars geeks (a word I use with love, considering that I myself am a dyed-in-the-wool geek!) were stunned when Lucas started explaining the universe-balancing Force with microscopic middlemen, instead of with the innate power of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. What ties them in common is that they each have a system, a framework with rules and laws almost more complicated than those of physics. Mages lose their spells after one casting, and must rest and recommit the words to memory before casting again. Aes Sedai spend years in training, because abuse of the One Power can too easily lead to death… and evidently you’ve got to be well-stocked on single-celled symbionts (is that even a word? My spellchecker sure doesn’t like it) to even make a dent in the Force. Fantasy writers delight in coming up with their own, hopefully brand-new systems, to give their books that added twist, that spark that no other sword-swinging Elf-hopping kender-singing dragon-flying books have. But what about Tolkien? Where is the system? What are the rules which govern the making of Rings of Power, which delineate the powers and limits of Istari, of Maiar, of Valar? He never talks about a framework or physical laws; we only see the results of the power’s use. Where does the power come from?

 

“It’s wonderfully quiet here. Nothing seems to be going on, and nobody seems to want it to. If there’s any magic about, it’s right down deep, where I can’t lay my hands on it, in a manner of speaking.                                                                                                                                                                     ’‘You can see and feel it everywhere,’ said Frodo.

‘Well,’ said Sam, ‘you can’t see nobody working it…I would dearly love to see some Elf-magic, Mr. Frodo!”

 

These passages between Sam and Frodo in Lórien are just about the only overt use of the word ‘magic’ in all of Lord of the Rings. Sam’s feeling, as it usually is for most of us, is that if ‘you can’t see nobody working it,’ then it must not be the real stuff. But I think Tolkien had another image in mind. He seems to have taken his love of nature and the natural order of things to such an extent that he would rather not impose an unnatural system of rules governing a supernatural power–what we term magic. Instead, it seems clear that Tolkien regarded extraordinary power as part of the natural birthright of individual beings, and as such, therefore, the exercise of that power was simply part of the settled order of events. Not magic, but just the use by each individual of the power vested in him or her–to the best and highest of his or her own abilities, be they the greatest of the great or the smallest of the small. And in fact, he regarded the traditional definitions of the word “magic” as tantamount to the evil Machine that tears up the normal fabric of nature.

 

You can read the rest here.

 

It's short.

 

http://www.theonerin...-individuality/

[The Invader]

In HxH case, I always preferred the antagonists to the protagonists.
 
HxH Ant Arc is another beast on itself tho'
 

 
1. Yes but she is more magical. It's very simple Lotion, you are complicating matters for yourself. These are geniune flaws is they belonged anywhere else other than FS/N.
 
2. Magic is funny that way, you can do anything you want with it. FSN employs magic the same way a lot of other fictional works do, you see, there's a lot to do on how to require it, but little on how it actually works.
 
This is a good thing when handled well.
 
FSN handles it well.
 
Why? Well because there's a solid outline and a lot of freedom for the author to do was he wants. There are spells he can invent that weren't there before and do practically whatever he wants to do given that he follows the same rules.
 
Saber was under Rin's influence, Rin = more magic, Saber = more magic which means Saber > Warned down Assassin.
 
This is why I think one of the best magical "systems" (if you wanna put it that way) is FMA's. All you need is a circle and you will transmute X to Y. It's never explained how the process towards X nor the one between X and Y works because it doesn't need to. It's a very simple process that has a lot of freedom to move.
 
Same goes with Nen powers in HxH. Y'see, Nen has lots of 'types' but you can basically do whatever you want to within those types. A conjurer can summon a Dragon for all he cares given that he's the right type or that he has made the needed restrictions and pledges to have that dragon OP af.
 
See, the more obtuse your guidelines are the more freedom you have to do pretty much whatever you want to do with magic. It's okay as long as you follow those guidlines.
 
Make your magic too complicated and you end up with chakra.
 
I really liked chakra to begin with, but later on down the line chakra started to do whatever it wanted to do. The problem with that was that prior to chakra going crazy there was no mention to how it would go beyond its concurrent restrictions.
 
Now everything is chakra this and chakra that.
 
FSN has a really neat and complicated magic system that isn't too complex as to outdo itself and still gives Nasu a lot of room to breathe in.
 
And look.
 
You're defo not the biggest FSN critic here.
 
Were they to break the magic system to that extent and do asspulls to such diabolical proportions then I'm sure House will have pointed it out ASAP as he has done before.

Couldn't agree more, FMA has the best system for the use of magic. It's simple, but it's still very clever and capable of complexity, but it makes sense and it's believable.

[Puzzlewell]

The need for mana also does allow best fight of the whole VN in HF to be as amazing as is.

Guess who's still trying to cope with being finished HF and wants to re-read certain points at least five times a day. >.>

[Simfam]

I especially love Sakura's need for mana.

 

Every night

 

[Hellion Rex]

Ugh. Now I'm gonna go into my Tolkien roots and bring up this neat little essay I read in TOR.


You can read the rest here.

It's short.

http://www.theonerin...-individuality/

Excellent write up and I absolutely agree.

[Simfam]

Excellent write up and I absolutely agree.

 

TOR has a lot of these neat little essays.

 

Like the Theme of Love

 

http://www.theonerin...d-of-the-rings/

 

And some Q&As

 

http://www.theonerin...iants-and-more/

[CrazyRah]

The need for mana also does allow best fight of the whole VN in HF to be as amazing as is.

Guess who's still trying to cope with being finished HF and wants to re-read certain points at least five times a day. >.>

 

And guess who just DID finish HF 

[Puzzlewell]

And guess who just DID finish HF 

 

! It's a good thing my house isn't quite sweltering right now so I can hop on Steam and pester you about it!

 

That's fair warning I figure.

[Mr.House]

Does lotion not understand that Saber with Rin as her master is extremely powerful and dangerous, on Berserkers level without the mad enchantment?

 

Any servant in SN/Zero but SN Berserker(since her and Illya are not that far part) and Zero Lancer(less to do with Lancer himself and more to do with him having two masters) would be far stronger then they currently are with Rin as their master(same with Illya)

[CrazyRah]

So yeah HF!

 

Spoiler

 

Now this is the route I had been hoping for when I picked up the VN. It's not even a competition between HF and UBW in which I prefer, it's a crushing victory for HF in every category. I really liked UBW but HF is truly something else. To start with it's the one route that got a Shriou that I genuinly appreciate, he go through some immense growth and development and end up becoming by each day closer to the kind of characters that I tend to like so it was always great to have a new day and a more awesome Shirou waiting at the end of it. His ability to throw away the false dream he had clinged on to for so many years to start living for a reason that he made himself is something that further made me appreciate him. That he quit trying to be a superhero that save everyone but instead try to be someones superhero is such a big deal. His interactions with the characters around him during this route were also more to my liking than the interactions from the other "Shirou" A great deal also comes down to the fact that I prefer him with Sakura over the other romances. Their background of being close with each other for a decent amount of time, that they both without clearly knowing it completely relied on each other made the romance feel more intimate and natural. It wasn't something that spawned over a few days. So yeah I'm #teamSakura which doesn't come much as a surprise since I have a history of liking the kind of character that she is. Sure would be happy if she didn't use senpai every 3'd sentence or so but that's not an issue when I summarize her story, her personality and just the impact she got on everything. She aided in making me like Shirou but also her relationship with Rin also aided in making me like both the sisters. 

 

Mentioned it to House yesterday but I prefer HF Rin over UBW Rin and it's because in HF she feel like a magus first and a tsundere second where as in UBW it too often felt like she was a tsundere first and a magus second. Also the numerous scenes and interactions with Sakura made her feel more well crafted and added new sides to her. Things like the gem sword, the work she put into to just even stand a chance against the darkness made her that much cooler than before. 

HF also finally gave me the chance to love Illya and it's a great crime she don't have her own route and it's a crime that will judge Nasu in the end. Illya all over is awesome and made even more so when the heartwarming scenes between her and Shirou appear, like when they walk home with the groceries and she sing lorelai. That's not a scene that I'll be able to forget in a long time and the image is so etched into my mind that it's just as clear now as when I saw the scene. What Illya did for HF and the story can't be mentioned enough and she top it all of by sacrificing herself to solve everything. Lorelai being played in the background make that a very potent scene and certainly in the top 3 of the VN. Very dusty room..

 

 

 

So if I one day will point where I finally became a fan of Nasu it will be with the conclusion of the HF route. I got true ending without any issue and I'm more than perfectly pleased with everything. Now.. what to do next..

[Liamv2]

Stop using logic at Lotion. He doesn't know what that is.

[Liamv2]

So if I one day will point where I finally became a fan of Nasu it will be with the conclusion of the HF route. I got true ending without any issue and I'm more than perfectly pleased with everything. Now.. what to do next..

 

I think I can safely take this out of the tags. You should go read the mind of steel bad end.

[TheClonesLegacy]

So has Gintama come out yet?

[Mr.House]

Rah still has normal end, mind of steel and Sparks Liner high.

 

All readers of HF need to see those three.

[Liamv2]

So has Gintama come out yet?

 

Yes.

 

 

Rah still has normal end, mind of steel and Sparks Liner high.

 

All readers of HF need to see those three.

 

Also yes.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Yes.

K, I'll watch it in a bit.

[Liamv2]

K, I'll watch it in a bit.

 

Moar of your waifu for laifu.

[Puzzlewell]

Going to also push for Femme Fatale too cause it's delightful in such a truly fucked up sort of sense. But yes, both those other endings are a must.

 

ETA: No auto correct, don't be stupid.

[Mr.House]

Going to also push for Fence Fatale too cause it's delightful in such a truly fucked up sort of sense. But yes, both those other endings are a must.

Which dead/bad end was that? Don't tell me that's the where Rin dies in a brutal way in UBW... ;_;