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Débuté par eroeru , janv. 21 2012 04:01

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#6876
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 05:15

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The King of Dust wrote...

Speaking of Gits, just watched Gits:Arise Ghost Pain yesterday. Not a fan of Saito's visual redesign, but everything else was pretty good/decent. They certainly still got the "this is bloody hard to follow" part down.

It's nice to see the Major in an outfit that doesn't look too ridiculous. Unlike the Gits:SAC swimsuit. God that was awful.

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U mad bro?

#6877
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 05:36

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Since J. Reezy posted fan service i'll have to balance out the thread by posting fan disservive...

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 05:40

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LMAO! Gross.

That probably still classifies as fan service though

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 05:49

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lol who would love such a creature? Better yet i'm not sure i want to know.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 06:02

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I have that outfit in my closet. Wore it for halloween to scare the kids so that all the candy me and the wife were giving out was left for me. I love snickers bars.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 06:19

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xNYROx wrote...

I have that outfit in my closet. Wore it for halloween to scare the kids so that all the candy me and the wife were giving out was left for me. I love snickers bars.


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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 06:47

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 07:05

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:45

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Some Geth wrote...

"They are great for people who are new to anime."

Ghost in the Shell is great, but um.. I think it helps if you have some anime, good anime experience first. Same with Ergo Proxy.


Fair enough if that's your opinion, though mine differs significantly:

Both GitS, the GitS:Innocence and finally the series GitS:SAC are simply anime, as good a starting point as any other. The only thing that makes them different is the discussion those anime tangle with and the scale thereof. And whilst I could agree that someone that has no idea about what GitS is playing with, the philosophical discussion about the essence of a being, the question of what makes one human, mind or body or the connection of those two, experience or information and to what experience is compared to information, the social criticism and the rather obscure social mechanic of a stand-alone complex (that's a real mind**** by the way, still haven't figured that one out completely!) might not really value the anime's intention of dealing with it and its execution, but still the show has plenty of eyegasm, eargasm and action to satisfy more superficial attention.



And Ergo Proxy is something special anyway. If you like mind****, Ergo Proxy is THE anime to watch, and it's sci-fi setting. Not easy diet, yes, but quite enjoyable anyway.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:46

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@eroeru, at first I thought you are talking about Sakura one and my reaction was cool story bro! Then I realized you're talking about Neon Evangelion one ... alright I might watch some of its episode next year. My schedule is full currently!

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 10:04

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

"They are great for people who are new to anime."

Ghost in the Shell is great, but um.. I think it helps if you have some anime, good anime experience first. Same with Ergo Proxy.


Fair enough if that's your opinion, though mine differs significantly:

Both GitS, the GitS:Innocence and finally the series GitS:SAC are simply anime, as good a starting point as any other. The only thing that makes them different is the discussion those anime tangle with and the scale thereof. And whilst I could agree that someone that has no idea about what GitS is playing with, the philosophical discussion about the essence of a being, the question of what makes one human, mind or body or the connection of those two, experience or information and to what experience is compared to information, the social criticism and the rather obscure social mechanic of a stand-alone complex (that's a real mind**** by the way, still haven't figured that one out completely!) might not really value the anime's intention of dealing with it and its execution, but still the show has plenty of eyegasm, eargasm and action to satisfy more superficial attention.



And Ergo Proxy is something special anyway. If you like mind****, Ergo Proxy is THE anime to watch, and it's sci-fi setting. Not easy diet, yes, but quite enjoyable anyway.

See I think all of that would be more easy to take in if the person has some experience with some other serious anime first. But whatever he can try watching GitS himself and he can see how well he does with it.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 10:22

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Some Geth wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

"They are great for people who are new to anime."

Ghost in the Shell is great, but um.. I think it helps if you have some anime, good anime experience first. Same with Ergo Proxy.


Fair enough if that's your opinion, though mine differs significantly:

Both GitS, the GitS:Innocence and finally the series GitS:SAC are simply anime, as good a starting point as any other. The only thing that makes them different is the discussion those anime tangle with and the scale thereof. And whilst I could agree that someone that has no idea about what GitS is playing with, the philosophical discussion about the essence of a being, the question of what makes one human, mind or body or the connection of those two, experience or information and to what experience is compared to information, the social criticism and the rather obscure social mechanic of a stand-alone complex (that's a real mind**** by the way, still haven't figured that one out completely!) might not really value the anime's intention of dealing with it and its execution, but still the show has plenty of eyegasm, eargasm and action to satisfy more superficial attention.



And Ergo Proxy is something special anyway. If you like mind****, Ergo Proxy is THE anime to watch, and it's sci-fi setting. Not easy diet, yes, but quite enjoyable anyway.

See I think all of that would be more easy to take in if the person has some experience with some other serious anime first. But whatever he can try watching GitS himself and he can see how well he does with it.



I think there's no real learning curve for complex background ideas such as there are in GitS. Either you know them and understand it or read up on it to understand it, or you don't. Unless you know an anime that explains the social phenomenon of a stand-alone complex, there's literally nothing short of studying such stuff where you'd even come across that topic.


My take is, if it's over someone's head, read up on it or decide if the rest of the anime is enough to enjoy.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 10:26

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Not really just talking about that per say. But um... Yeah you got the right idea.

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 10:34

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Anyways. If anybody's interested, Araki recently put out a book about his love of horror movies.

http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/d/d7/Hirohiko_Araki's_Bizarre_Horro_Obi.png

His list of the best 20, contained therein:

1. Zombie (‘78 director’s cut)
2. Jaws
3. Misery
4. I Am Legend
5. Ninth Gate
6. Alien
7. Ring (TV version)
8. The Mist
9. Final Destination
10. Akuma no ikenie (Devil’s Sacrifice, ‘74)
11. Dasshutsu
12. The Blob
13. 28 Days Later
14. Basket Case
15. Sleeping With The Enemy
16. No Country
17. The Exorcist
18. Funny Games (‘07 US remake)
19. Hostel
20. Kuraimori

He likes HOSTEL lol

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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 11:11

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Some Geth wrote...

Anyways. If anybody's interested, Araki recently put out a book about his love of horror movies.

http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/d/d7/Hirohiko_Araki's_Bizarre_Horro_Obi.png

His list of the best 20, contained therein:

1. Zombie (‘78 director’s cut)
2. Jaws
3. Misery
4. I Am Legend
5. Ninth Gate
6. Alien
7. Ring (TV version)
8. The Mist
9. Final Destination
10. Akuma no ikenie (Devil’s Sacrifice, ‘74)
11. Dasshutsu
12. The Blob
13. 28 Days Later
14. Basket Case
15. Sleeping With The Enemy
16. No Country
17. The Exorcist
18. Funny Games (‘07 US remake)
19. Hostel
20. Kuraimori

He likes HOSTEL lol

Sleeping With The Enemy? lulz... but is No Country For Old Men a horror film? (Javier Bardem was scary as hell though)

#6891
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 11:13

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A few of those movies are not horror movies.

Like Misery.

#6892
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 01:00

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Misery is a romantic comedy.

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 01:18

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oh, you!

#6894
Ghost Lightning
Posté 27 juin 2013 - 02:21

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So...there's only like a week left until Free! airs. Who else is ready for some all male swimming action?

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 02:25

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I tend to watch the first couple eps of everything to see if I want to see it, so who knows but frankly unless its a bit funny or some such like another anime I seen with a very much alike set up I might pass on it.

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 03:00

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#6897
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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 03:01

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Has anyone read the comic series "Priest"?

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 03:50

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I don't think I've posted this here yet.

Anyone who has both seen Bakemonogatari and was actively following media in the late 90's and early 2000's (i.e. a "90's child") should find some semblance of joy or disturbance after listening to this. 

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 03:56

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

So...there's only like a week left until Free! airs. Who else is ready for some all male swimming action?

www.youtube.com/watch

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Posté 27 juin 2013 - 05:05

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Hmm I think you give GitS a little too much credit Clouded Leopard. It's like eroeru going on about Jungian themes in Evangelion, lol.

Granted they are both great, classic animes etc. (I did finally finish 2nd Gig recently, it was also great) and none of your claims about the themes it explores are untrue, but if I really wanted a deep exploration of Jungian ideas or whatnot I would read about Jung himself. Any impact the anime might have on the other hand,

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...well it kinda shoots itself in the foot IMO. Or maybe that's me.

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