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[Hellion Rex]

I'm not really that hard to get along with really either XD

*cough* Saber *cough*

[Mr.House]

Question, does Gil have any defensive Noble Phantasms? Other than Enkidu.

Yes. He has divine protection that would protect him from Gae bolg and a multidimensional shield for Assassins NP.  Those are just the known ones. Plus he has his golden armor that was able to take a crap tone of hits from Excalibur and Caliburn before it started to crack and protects him from alot of high magic.

 

His golden armor is the same armor he wore when Enkidu and him fought Humbaba.

[Mr.House]

*cough* Saber *cough*

[Hellion Rex]

Yes. He has divine protection that would protect him from Gae bolg and a multidimensional shield for Assassins NP.  Those are just the known ones. Plus he has his golden armor that was able to take a crap tone of hits from Excalibur and Caliburn before it started to crack and protects him from alot of high magic.

Multidimensional shield? Good grief, which legend does that NP end up becoming? Also does it stand to reason that he might a hold a prototype of Rho Ais?

[Mr.House]

Multidimensional shield? Good grief, which legend does that NP end up becoming? Also does it stand to reason that he might a hold a prototype of Rho Ais?

The multidimensional shield is a very sore subject with TM fans, as alot including me find it a complete asspull that simply exists so he can have a one up over Assassin when in reality there should be no counter or protection from it.

 

I also would not be surprised if his divine protection is in fact the prototype to Rho Ais.

[Milan92]

Doesnt Gil possess every NP thats out there?

He's bound to have Rho Ais and other defensive NP's then

[Hellion Rex]

The multidimensional shield is a very sore subject with TM fans, as alot including me find it a complete asspull that simply exists so he can have a one up over Assassin when in reality there should be no counter or protection from it.

I also would not be surprised if his divine protection is in fact the prototype to Rho Ais.

Interesting. Why would they feel the need to do that though? Shirou already has a way to one up him. Why would it be a big deal if Assassin's abilities were able hurt him too? It's kinda odd.

And also pretty cool. I would guess that Gil's version of Rho Ais would be basic concept of "the shield" that led to the other defensive noble Phantasms within legend. At the end of the day though, I gues Gil would never really feel the need to utilize such a shield, cause he trusts Enkidu's capabilities entirely.

[Milan92]

The Assassin House talks about is special

[Mr.House]

Doesnt Gil possess every NP thats out there?

He's bound to have Rho Ais and other defensive NP's then

It was alot more balanced at first, but then it bloated overt he years and Zero and CCC made it waaaay to OP to the point where Nasu and Gil being married is a in joke in the fanbase.

 

The thing is this, Gil should have no protection from Tsubame because it is not a NP, it was a skill that is only associated with the stories of Kojirou. So yes Gil having a shield for it is a giant asspull that was clearly made up because Nasu didn't want Assassin to trump Gil.

[Hellion Rex]

Doesnt Gil possess every NP thats out there?

He's bound to have Rho Ais and other defensive NP's then

Well, not the Phantasms themselves technically (House correct me if I'm wrong). I thought that he simply has the original weapons (and shields) that led to Noble Phantasms used by Heroic Spirits.
However, what I understand is that he doesn't use their abilities to full capacity, minus a few exceptions. He simply utilizes them mostly as his arrows.

I would hazard to say that maybe the Heroic Spirits are what truly endowed the weapons with their unimaginable power. Take Saber for example. Gil may have Excaliburs prototype, but neither do you see him shooting off high level magic like Saber can.

[Mr.House]

Interesting. Why would they feel the need to do that though? Shirou already has a way to one up him. Why would it be a big deal if Assassin's abilities were able hurt him too? It's kinda odd.

And also pretty cool. I would guess that Gil's version of Rho Ais would be basic concept of "the shield" that led to the other defensive noble Phantasms within legend. At the end of the day though, I gues Gil would never really feel the need to utilize such a shield, cause he trusts Enkidu's capabilities entirely.

It's because of who Fake Assassin is. Sasaki Kojirou is not a real person, he was a made up person that was implanted into many legends to make said heroes better. Gil should have no counter or projection from a skill that was created by a made up person. (every proper heroic spirit/counter guardian in the nasuverse  was a real person)

[Zeroth Angel]

It's not like Gil even needs a dimensional shield to defeat Assasin to begin with.

 

Assasin is bound to the temple. Gil could easily open 64 gates and bomb the guy.

[Milan92]

Well, not the Phantasms themselves technically (House correct me if I'm wrong). I thought that he simply has the original weapons (and shields) that led to Noble Phantasms used by Heroic Spirits.
However, what I understand is that he doesn't use their abilities to full capacity, minus a few exceptions. He simply utilizes them mostly as his arrows.

I would hazard to say that maybe the Heroic Spirits are what truly endowed the weapons with their unimaginable power. Take Saber for example. Gil may have Excaliburs prototype, but neither do you see him shooting off high level magic like Saber can.

You are correct! Gil cant fully use their powers because he isnt the true owner.

[TheClonesLegacy]

I'm back from handing in my Tourism Studies.

So House, how is iM@S treatin ya?

[Liamv2]

Finished the Hachikuji arc in Monogatari second. This season is great. I wonder what the next arc will be like.

[Mr.House]

Well, not the Phantasms themselves technically (House correct me if I'm wrong). I thought that he simply has the original weapons (and shields) that led to Noble Phantasms used by Heroic Spirits.
However, what I understand is that he doesn't use their abilities to full capacity, minus a few exceptions. He simply utilizes them mostly as his arrows.

I would hazard to say that maybe the Heroic Spirits are what truly endowed the weapons with their unimaginable power. Take Saber for example. Gil may have Excaliburs prototype, but neither do you see him shooting off high level magic like Saber can.

You are semi correct. What Gil has is every prototype and the model of every weapon. For example, Gil does not have Caliburn, but he has Gram which is the prototype for Caliburn. His spear that is the prototype for Gae bolg does not have the abilities that Cu can use because they where created by Cu ect.

 

You are correct! Gil cant fully use their powers because he isnt the true owner.

False in fact. Kid Gil can use the true abilities of 99% of his weapons(weapons like Gae Bolg being the exception) That's because Kid Gil and adult Gil are two different characters now because of the drastic change  in the poem between how he was as a kid and adult.

[Hellion Rex]

It's not like Gil even needs a dimensional shield to defeat Assasin to begin with.

Assasin is bound to the temple. Gil could easily open 64 gates and bomb the guy.

I mean really though lol. He could do just that.

[Mr.House]

It's not like Gil even needs a dimensional shield to defeat Assasin to begin with.

 

Assasin is bound to the temple. Gil could easily open 64 gates and bomb the guy.

Yup, but someone decided to bring up a question. What if Gil made a mistake and got too close, then Nasu was like  MULTIDIMENSIONAL SHIELD! and then many people went Nasu.....

[Hellion Rex]

Dear God, I find the lore of the Nasuverse so enthralling.

[Mr.House]

Dear God, I find the lore of the Nasuverse so enthralling.

Hell even after many years I still sometimes need to bring up the VN or the character materiel if I''m unsure.

[Milan92]

You are semi correct. What Gil has is every prototype and the model of every weapon. For example, Gil does not have Caliburn, but he has Gram which is the prototype for Caliburn. His spear that is the prototype for Gae bolg does not have the abilities that Cu can use because they where created by Cu ect.

False in fact. Kid Gil can use the true abilities of 99% of his weapons(weapons like Gae Bolg being the exception) That's because Kid Gil and adult Gil are two different characters now because of the drastic change in the poem between how he was as a kid and adult.

Well!

I was talking about adult Gil!

*pouts*

[Zeroth Angel]

Yup, but someone decided to bring up a question. What if Gil made a mistake and got too close, then Nasu was like  MULTIDIMENSIONAL SHIELD! and then many people went Nasu.....

Yeah.

 

That was really stupid.

 

And while Nasu buffs Gil in his interviews he tries to nerf Archer .

[Mr.House]

Anyways back to Oregairu!

[Isichar]

But dualityAnt arcIsi pls

You may know the magic word to get me interested but should I remind you I'm 55 episodes into a series I started in Dec that is good enough to consider top 5 material on my list? Me and longer series just don't mix well.

It is something I'm interested in don't get me wrong but time is so limited and I get sidetracked too easily off longer things.

We'll see though.

I still need to go through OP too... **** this is going to take me all year...