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[Chewin]

They should have Superman win again.

 

Would love to see Goku fans cry twice.

 

That does not excuse the number of errors, horrible CGI(water, grail mud and UBW makes the CGI cars look good in comparison) and messing up with the first usage of UBW and overusing it. UBWs first use in Ufotables UBW did nothing for me unlike Riders NP which completely and utterly stomps everything BUT the final fight in UBW. Sabers Excaliblast in Zero was also better then its usage in the UBW climax.

 

The combat movements for servants goes into the power level and NP presentation field which UBW did do better(outside UBW which was botched outside the final battle and a few hiccups in the Saber and Berserker fight) and these don't make up for the number of errors, horrible CGI and inconsistent art quality.

 

Similar issues you point out I can say about Zero (cars, Saber's bike, Grail mud, airplanes) and overusage of abilities (Kiritsugu's Time Alter for instance). I myself prefer UBW's Reality marble in visual quality over Rider's. Both are still good in their own right. I give you Excalibur looking better than Zero, but that goes to show considering it is the highlight of the incident that it takes place, while in UBW it is Shirou's fight (and thus Saber has considerable shorter build up and execution). Though putting emphasis on that alone is trifling, considering how many other scenarios the show features in abilities that trumps Zero.

 

Now you are mixing representation of abilities as an adaptation, which is different from what we were talking about, which is their visual quality on their own. An no, I'd hardly call the show sporting horrible CGIs and "inconsistent art quality", even though there are hiccups, as I pointed out (lie Caster's skeletons). The shows usage of city buildings, lightning effects, shadows and more add further strengths to what Zero managed (which goes to show considering how most of the time in Zero was spent during night). F/SN had the luxury of more day time activities, which further added to the show's usage of visual effects through several ways.

[Mr.House]

Kiri's time alter was never  a defining moment in Zero. Archers use of UBW and at last seeing it after all the dreams, foreshadowing and teases was and unlike the VN that nailed it, Ufotable fumbled the ball hard with horrible CGI, budget issues, and how it creates lore issues and is not even being used as it should be (and how the anime has a glaring issue, why is Archer not using UBW properly but Shirou does later)

 

Zero never had an episode as bad as ep18(and ep23 as it was clear Ufotable had budget issues and had to keep it for 24 where they went all out) for UBW in visual and art quality.

[Some Geth]

Wow Isi sucks at Yugioh.

[Liamv2]

Poor Isi lost huh? After all that bravado too.

[Isichar]

Wow Isi sucks at Yugioh.

 

I can live with this.

 

Better to be a noobie and lose then brag about being amazing and lose to a noobie

[Isichar]

Poor Isi lost huh? After all that bravado too.

 

What bravado?

[Liamv2]

What bravado?

 

All that stuff about Ani.

[Some Geth]

Poor Isi lost huh? After all that bravado too.

I had full life points.

 

And 4 monsters out with 2500+ attack.

 

In only 6 turns he lost.

 

Hard.

[Some Geth]

I can live with this.

 

Better to be a noobie and lose then brag about being amazing and lose to a noobie

Test games don't count.

 

I didn't give you a test game.

 

I ate you.

[Isichar]

All that stuff about Ani.

Ah yes, because versing Geth with a deck I've never looked at before on a program I've never used is the exact same as versing another new player in the tourney

 

Sure, ok I got you.

[Some Geth]

Ani will beat you.

[Isichar]

Ani will beat you.

 

I'm ok with this

 

No matter who wins the match. I'm still the winner.

[Chewin]

@House Yet it still got overused. Doesn't matter that much whether it is a defining moment in the show, but it sure is for his character. And UBW was used three times in the show, both for plot reasons which added to the scenarios.

You are continuing to drop adaptation issues into the topic, even though it was never about it. You aren't strengthening your argument here when discussing its inconsistency. An no, it is not as bad as you make it out to be. And regarding Ep 18, you are strictly putting emphasis on the episode being bad on a visual level based on your discomfort on the Reality Marble (which isn't that bad to being with) and ignoring the visual usages of the brief physical exchange between Saber and Archer, magical use of Rin and Saber's pact, Archer's build up for UBW, the morning light outside the church, the lightning effects in the cellar and Shirou's house.

That hardly constitute a bad representation or an inconsistent art quality.

[Liamv2]

Ah yes, because versing Geth with a deck I've never looked at before on a program I've never used is the exact same as versing another new player in the tourney

 

Sure, ok I got you.

 

Ani will beat you.

 

Yes.

[Some Geth]

And I will beat Liam.

 

Then Sim/Chewin.

 

Then I don't know.

 

House?

[Isichar]

Yes.

 

News flash for you, Ani cares about this game as much as I do

[Liamv2]

News flash for you, Ani cares about this game as much as I do

 

Still gonna win. Probably. Whoever I root for is probably going to lose.

[Isichar]

Still gonna win. Probably. Whoever I root for is probably going to lose.

 

Again, I'm ok with this

[Some Geth]

Man only one time losing to me and he is so salty.

 

Sim, Chewin and Vroom are above him not just in game level but also in the spirit of the game.

[Isichar]

I definitely want Ani to kick Isi's ass after all this fetish dungeon talk I've had to read here these past couple days.

 

Me too!

[Isichar]

Man only one time losing to me and he is so salty.

 

Sim, Chewin and Vroom are above him not just in game level but also in the spirit of the game.

 

Lol Idc enough to be salty. I chose a random deck I've never looked at before. I didn't go in expecting to win, I didn't even read the effects on half the cards in my hand.

 

I'm just pointing out that bragging so much about beating me looks far worse on you then it does on me

[Some Geth]

This much salt is not good for you.

[Isichar]

This much salt is not good for you.

 

I think you're just compensating for the fact Chewin beat you

 

It must be hard getting beaten by a complete noobie, after bragging so much about how you could beat us all in a row

[Mr.House]

@House Yet it still got overused. Doesn't matter that much whether it is a defining moment in the show, but it sure is for his character. And UBW was used three times in the show, both for plot reasons which added to the scenarios.

You are continuing to drop adaptation issues into the topic, even though it was never about it. You aren't strengthening your argument here when discussing its inconsistency. An no, it is not as bad as you make it out to be. And regarding Ep 18, you are strictly putting emphasis on the episode being bad on a visual level based on your discomfort on the Reality Marble (which isn't that bad to being with) and ignoring the visual usages of the brief physical exchange between Saber and Archer, magical use of Rin and Saber's pact, Archer's build up for UBW, the morning light outside the church, the lightning effects in the cellar and Shirou's house.

That hardly constitute a bad representation or an inconsistent art quality.

UBW looks better in ep24. It looks like crap in ep18. That's an inconstancy. UBW should have been handled with love and care for a plethora of reasons, Ufotable didn't. The fact that the brief physical spat between Archer and Saber was better then the UBW part just makes it worse.

 

The Ufotable team didn't budget properly and they didn't have their prioritizes straight. Ep18 should have looked BETTER then ep17 because of what it was dealing with. Gae Bolg: Soaring spear that strikes with death, Rho Aias and the small parts with Caster and RIn looked better then any moment in ep18 and that should not be happening.