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Hopefully I'll be successful and make him realize that anime is better than live action!

That is not inherently true.
 
The correct way to word that would be
 

Hopefully I'll be successful and make him realize that anime can be better than live action!

It makes you come off... less crazy.



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Live action has let me down repeatedly. Granted, there are some pretty fantastic shows and movies that are live action, but I feel anime is simply... superior. It's mainly due to the fact that much more can be done with anime and the possibilities are limitless.   

 

But that's how I feel. Others may feel differently. 



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Actually. You get the right director behind it.

Fate/Zero would make a pretty good 2 part live action film.

 

And if you got the people that worked on the Scott Pilgrim movie on Jojo then that actually wouldn't be that bad.

Just include more Speedwagon. That's where that Phantom Blood movie fell flat. Among other things.



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Live action has let me down repeatedly. Granted, there are some pretty fantastic shows and movies that are live action, but I feel anime is simply... superior. It's mainly due to the fact that much more can be done with anime and the possibilities are limitless.   

 

But that's how I feel. Others may feel differently. 

You. It's your fault they canceled Hannibal. Shee-nay!



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You. It's your fault they cancelled Hannibal. Shee-nay!

And Constantine.



#79881
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Ok some more HF impressions, for 8th and 9th day.

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Awwww yeah! Now you're around where I started to become part of #TeamSakura

Phone and work getting in the way for a longer post but that we can have later
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#79882
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I'll post a gif when you awake.

 

Anyway, I've been trying hard to get my father to watch anime. He was watching some Gundam Wing with me earlier. I'm trying hard to get him to watch Fate/Zero.

 

I doubt he'll like anything like Jojo or Sora No Otoshimono or PMMM, so I'm going with Fate/Zero. Something that even he should like. 

 

Hopefully I'll be successful and make him realize that anime is better than live action! 

 

Well if you're really trying to impress your dad with anime then you should get him to watch Monster's English Dub.

 

There.

 

I won his heart for you.

 

 

It's a good gateway for peeps who don't get what the medium can offer.

 

Of course it all depends on what he's like etc etc.

 

If he likes thrillers/crime dramas/psychology then he will like Monster.

 

Live action has let me down repeatedly. Granted, there are some pretty fantastic shows and movies that are live action, but I feel anime is simply... superior. It's mainly due to the fact that much more can be done with anime and the possibilities are limitless.   

 

But that's how I feel. Others may feel differently.

 

Do u even Breaking Bad?

 

 

 


Actually. You get the right director behind it.

Fate/Zero would make a pretty good 2 part live action film.

 

And if you got the people that worked on the Scott Pilgrim movie on Jojo then that actually wouldn't be that bad.

Just include more Speedwagon. That's where that Phantom Blood movie fell flat. Among other things.

 

Movies be too short.

 

Series are where its at, yo.


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#79883
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I still need to breaking bad.
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#79884
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I still need to breaking bad.

 

I still need to Three Kingdoms 2010.

 

Why do 45 mins have to be so long?

 

*pouf gif*



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:') Yes. Chewin is seeing the beginnings for why I am on #TeamSakura. It's just going to get better from here on, my friend. Well, I'm biased as hell so I can only say that for me but still.
Not real spoilers, going off something you mentioned regarding the UBW anime:

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But we'll get into that more once you've finished and I stop being a lazy piece of **** and write my love letter to FSN.


Yeah, you need to get around to that post of yours. Otherwise I'll end up winning our little contest. :P

I still need to Three Kingdoms 2010.
 
Why do 45 mins have to be so long?
 
*pouf gif*


Once you get around to it and feel fully invested--you'd wish they were an hour long.

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Once you get around to it and feel fully invested--you'd wish they were an hour long.

 

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Just finish Gargoyles and then worry about Three Kingdoms.

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Just finish Gargoyles and then worry about Three Kingdoms.

 

Yes.

 

For Owen.

 

I will.

 

All for

 

Owen.


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So there's this Berserk Redux thing that somehow (and apparently awesomely) combines both the movies and series into one thing making the ultimate Berserk anime experience.

 

I might watch it one day.

 

Here's da trailer bruvas



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See I don't get this idea that one type of medium is superior to the other. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses but whether it's a book, manga, movie, show, anime, live action or anything they all have the potential to deliver a satisfying story. I obviously have a preference for anime as of lately but that doesn't objectively make it better.

Edit: also my dad is one of those people who typically believes animated shows are for kids. Well I get that for him most cartoons and animes he is aware if are typically aimed at a younger audience it's the same idea where having the story be drawn doesn't necessarily make it something that can't be mature (Example: Monster, Psycho Pass) sure you don't get actual actors and such which can be a huge strength of live action but many animated films have a higher emphasis placed on VA, often sound design and they can also tend to be more creative since things like special effects and scenery is handled differently.

And yes, good example Sim. Breaking Bad was a piece of art IMO. Absolutely incredible series. Thought provoking and artsy. Makes me want more Better Call Saul which has also managed to impress me quite a bit and fill the hole Breaking Bad left well still managing to feel enough like its own thing.
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So there's this Berserk Redux thing that somehow (and apparently awesomely) combines both the movies and series into one thing making the ultimate Berserk anime experience.

I might watch it one day.

Here's da trailer bruvas


Huh. Interesting idea. I'll watch the trailer when I get home if I don't have a 15+ hour day and can actually remember.

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Gonna have to agree with Isi.

I've never seen the necessity to catter to a specific medium and mark it as "objectively better". Just as you pointed out, they each come with their own strengths and weaknesses--e.g wherein a movie has the ability to use visual representation as an auxiliary to convey the story, while a book generally has an easier time focusing on characters' minds through inner dialogue. It is one thing when you argue about adaptations or if you wish to generalize mediums, and whether one medium did it better than the other (and usually at most cases the original work tends to be the best--a book or a manga).

But whatever the case, it isn't as much as whether one medium is superior imho, but more in how the artists / writer / director uses his / her tools to their advantage in meaningful ways to create somthing substantial. When you have an idea that you want to create, know what you need to do and how to achieve it, and if you are skillful enough, then you can make something worthwile. It is not abnormal to see certain individuals state that the reason why the decided to tell their story through a specific medium is due to them finding that it fitted them best.
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See I don't get this idea that one type of medium is superior to the other. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses but whether it's a book, manga, movie, show, anime, live action or anything they all have the potential to deliver a satisfying story. I obviously have a preference for anime as of lately but that doesn't objectively make it better.

And yes, good example Sim. Breaking Bad was a piece of art IMO. Absolutely incredible series. Thought provoking and artsy. Makes me want more Better Call Saul which has also managed to impress me quite a bit and fill the hole Breaking Bad left well still managing to feel enough like its own thing.

 

Haha yeah. Each medium has its merits for storytelling.

 

This is why I hate literature elitists or elitists of any kind of medium. But whatever, they're missing out of lots of things. Imagine missing out on something as good as the Ant Arc cos 'cartoon ain't for me.' Or hell, imagine missing out on stuff like Berserk or Vagabond cos you can't take comics seriously.

 

lmao.

 

A good story is a good story no matter where it's at.

 

Might be good for a bunch of different reasons and they might need to employ different methods...

 

But it's still good.


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#79894
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Just as long as you all understand Tokusatsu is the best genre and medium I can agree with all your points.


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A good story is a good story no matter where it's at.

This.

Completely agreed Chewin and Sim.

On a side note that's why I dislike when someone says something along the lines of "we're going to make the Breaking Bad of games" what made Breaking Bad so good is Vince Gilligan understood his medium and its strengths and played on it. Trying to copy that onto another medium just doesn't work. It basically just comes down to what Chewin said about how the people working on the series for any given medium actually uses the tools at their disposal to tell an effective story.
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#79896
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Yeah games should do their own thing and not try to be just like movies or shows.


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#79897
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Also since you got up to it Sim.

 

Do you understand why I think Luffy vs Bellamy is one of the best fights in the whole series?



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Also since you got up to it Sim.

 

Do you understand why I think Luffy vs Bellamy is one of the best fights in the whole series?

 

I think?

 

You have a better eye for these things.

 

Without trying to make myself sound smart I loved it because it's basically Luffy telling his literal antithesis to f*ck off. As in, not his antithesis because 'omg Bellamy is a dickhead' but more to do with how he shat all over what Luffy believed in.

 

Which is why I think Blackbeard is gonna be a great villain.



#79899
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That does sound like something Luffy would do

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Geth has a good critical eye so there's probably more to that scene that I never initially got.

 

Hope he writes about it.

 

Trying to get Geth to write a serious post is like trying to get Lotion to watch HxH.