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Only things that irk me off are dubs and omitted opening/ending songs.

 

So I think I really care about music and voice-acting. An audio-oriented person as I oft likes anime, because of the quality and meaning of what's to hear.

 

Ok, every now and then I'm bothered by total abandonment of style, as seen with anything that followed the original 1999 Hunter x Hunter. 2011 isn't as bad, because it tries a new thing aimed towards a new audience, yet the Greed Island arc closely following the original was a disaster, twas utter bollocks.

 

As to preference of style in itself, I most love the original movie of Ghost in the Shell, and then some artsy stuff, like the abovelinked Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. Or Katanagatari. Katanagatari has some really cool art.

 

Interesting that you, sim, brought up Eden of the East and FMA. Neither did catch my eye, though EotE is more pleasing, in my opinion. Simple lines and a realistic tone. Yet it's more in the pacing of the anime itself, and less in the art which I enjoyed. And FMA got the same reaction, though there's much going on in every way (I loved seeing the show), it overall feels like an ordinary early 2000's anime in its visuals.

 

So overall I just like what's conveyed in anime, and how. There's much of introverted stuff that's thought-provoking, intellectual or emotional yet decorous. I love the idea of animated visuals going anywhere they want with much room for the imagination of creators, flowing in with a perfectly fit soundtrack/voice-acting. It's a whole new world, crafted by the author's/director's view on things in general.


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#10677
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5 centimeters per second:

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if you watch garden of words let me know how it turns out!

and you are a terrible person isichar, a terrible person ;)

Heh well I have to amuse myself somehow :D

5 Centimeters a Second spoilers below.

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Oh and I did watch The Garden of Words, and really enjoyed it. It was still bittersweet but not as bad as I was prepared for after 5 Centimeters. I actually thought the age-difference was handled relatively well all things considering even though I did not become quite as emotionally attatched as in 5 Centimeters. The animation was definitely the best thing about the film though, I could have watched the entire thing in mute and still enjoyed it.

Have you watched any of Makoto Shinkai's other films? The only other one I've seen was a 7 minute short called Someone's Gaze, which was good. I would like to check out more of his stuff, Tbh.

PS Ill write up a response to sims question when I get back from work.
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Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei- a total trip of an anime that makes a suicidal man and social comedy a matter of comedy. Crazy ending, but to my surprise I actually mused up the twist before it happened.

 

No matter how much time I had spent guessing the twist (correctly), it still bothered the hell out of me with how twisted it was.

 

Oh yeah, I now remember seeing Goku S S in full.

Great show that one was.

 

But the first season was the favorite. This opening was rad at the time:

 

So far I've enjoyed the first season more than the others, I'd say Goku is superior as a package but Goku is only three good episodes while S1 had more than that.

I'll shamelessly admit that the first opening and ending went onto my playlist.

 

^ must be a rapist anime, right?

I'm totally disappointed by this 1:30 seconds (the first one, I'm not going to watch the second one).

 

It's a series about a suicidal teacher and his dysfunctional students. It's a clever black comedy while dealing with social issues prevalent in Japan.

 

P.S I watched the entire thing in subs. I'm curious to see how my reaction to dubs will be hehe. Oh, and when the Japanese attempt English it's about the funniest freaking thing ever. Perhaps the Japanese thing the same when the dubs attempt Japanese :P

I find it hilarious when a dub is a 100% translation with no adaptations for the language structure, it's rare but it occurs and it sounds absolutely terrible.

... though I do love the english dub when a scene is about someone trying to read an english letter or something and they're complaining that they don't understand english.


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LOL WHAT?

 

Yeah, I suppose I should have said "must be a harem anime, right?" ... based on those girls doing something with that boy...

 

[edit] Dave@ just read your comment. Black Comedy, eh? Now I'm feared.



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@Arian

 

quote on Dave: "dealing with social issues prevalent in Japan."

 

And one of them is the prevalence of the sort of shows you'd fear.

 

But Sayonara Sensei rather plays with the themes tastefully, and not preachingly nor with lusting in taboos, it's rather sad of those. It doesn't deal with naming them taboos, it rather deals with these as real yet "open" questions or phenomena. Makes serious and reflexive fun of Japanese commonplace socially awkward and problematic stuff.


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@Sim

 

I mostly agree on the art thing. I cant say that I have actively seen any animation that was so bad that I stopped watching it, 90% of the animes I watch I have no strong opinion on the animation one way or another, but the animation style can also do a lot to set the tone of a show if used effectively (especially for darker shows like Another or Death Note)

 

Same thing with the OST as well. Its not as important as the story, but it can still do lots to enhance the story and engage the audience if used well.

 

There are a few animation shortcuts that I do notice and can get on my nerves.. like when they stretch the skin to make it look like the character is moving faster then they actually are.

 

naruto-quality-3.gif

 

Ugh it looks so bad


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What the bloody hell? It isn't letting me post!

 

I have a huge reply and it isn't letting me do anything with it.

 

Well... whilst I wait for that to get fixed I'll talk about Genshiken.

 

So yeah, the show started pretty meh, but it grows on you. And Genshiken 2 does a lot better than the first. Though, the Second Generation ainme (Genshiken Nadime) leaves a pretty huge gap, so I'd recommend you read the manga between those and then AFTER Nadime finishes since you still have a lot left to go. Actually, the manga is still running.

 

It's a really nice anime, with great characters and the humour will totally get to you if you're into anime. Even if you're a noob like me you'll laugh at the tons of references and the whole cast being otakus is quite awesome.

 

And the first season has one of the best openings I've seen so far.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=24BPqvENOL8

 

And that guy in the glasses?

 

I thought he was going to be one of these obnoxious nerds, but in the end, he's one of the nicest guys in there. You feel so sorry for the dude. So the character development is also a huge plus when it comes to the anime/manga.



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@Sim

 

Should I add it to my list then? Suggest me something to watch for when I finish Texhnolyze.



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Yup I'd recommend Genshiken. It's not something you'll love straight off the bat, it's something that will grow on you. Hell, I even read the manga parts that were missing and the rest of the plot too. It really grew on me a lot.

 

Dude

 

I watched in SUBS! That's like a huge step for me but I did it just for Genshiken ha! xD

 

Another thing I'd recommend?

 

Well... I wouldn't know seeing as you've seen a ton of more anime than me.

 

Bacanno?

 

Shi*t. But that's like the god-damned Baldur's Gate of anime really, if you're into the thing you'll watch it at some point.


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Dammit!

 

I can't post the long reply. It's about the question I asked ><

 

Oh P.S

 

That gif... never seen that before, but I suppose it'd ****** me off too. Just looking at it is cheesy xD

 

*sigh*

 

This is just like Order of the Stick, ffs, now I have to wait for this damned Manga to finish. Good it's picked up the pace since March, but I don't want to wait a year for the whole thing to be done :'(

 

Why can't these artists just wrap up their mangas and leave us alone!



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Yup I'd recommend Genshiken. It's not something you'll love straight off the bat, it's something that will grow on you. Hell, I even read the manga parts that were missing and the rest of the plot too. It really grew on me a lot.

 

Dude

 

I watched in SUBS! That's like a huge step for me but I did it just for Genshiken ha! xD

 

Another thing I'd recommend?

 

Well... I wouldn't know seeing as you've seen a ton of more anime than me.

 

Bacanno?

 

Shi*t. But that's like the god-damned Baldur's Gate of anime really, if you're into the thing you'll watch it at some point.

 

BG? Say no more. Its on the list.

 

I'll check out Genshiken after the one I just started, Texnolyze.

 

Ive actually just been at this an extra couple months longer then you, minus when I was younger. There's so much I still have to watch that I could do nothing but watch anime all year and still probably not catch up :wacko:



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Dammit!

 

I can't post the long reply. It's about the question I asked ><

 

Oh P.S

 

That gif... never seen that before, but I suppose it'd ****** me off too. Just looking at it is cheesy xD

 

*sigh*

 

This is just like Order of the Stick, ffs, now I have to wait for this damned Manga to finish. Good it's picked up the pace since March, but I don't want to wait a year for the whole thing to be done :'(

 

Why can't these artists just wrap up their mangas and leave us alone!

 

Lol

 

Well at least your not a fan of the Berserk manga, I've been waiting over 1 year just for a chapter.



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Lol

 

Well at least your not a fan of the Berserk manga, I've been waiting over 1 year just for a chapter.

 

I know your pain friend.

 

-_-

 

I'm waiting on SEVERAL manga that are on Hiatus/Break and waiting for them to resume is a pain.



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When I said BG I was referring to Bacanno, not Genshiken :-)

 

Bacanno can be confusing though, since everything is happening at different timeliness, but in the end, it all blends together really well.

 

Besides, who can hate an anime with THIS intro?

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=OOZ1hsb8smQ

 

Oh, and even though there is a lot more to the story AFTER the anime, the anime wraps up quite nicely so you don't have that feeling of "what's next?" So you'll be satisfied with the anime alone.

 

Oh, and also. If I watch Berserk will I be forced to go onto the manga because the anime doesn't wrap up its arc well at all?

 

Ive actually just been at this an extra couple months longer then you, minus when I was younger. There's so much I still have to watch that I could do nothing but watch anime all year and still probably not catch up

 

I started at a good time. I'm 18, young and diverse. I'll study, go into university and do nothing for four years. Yes, where I'm from, you don't have to pay.

 

The adult life is still way ahead of me muahahha.

 

Now I've jinxed it.

 

Some freaking psychopath is probably waiting outside my door to murder me atm.

 

Oh well, it'll be a fun fight before he stabs me to death.

 

Couldn't it at least been Kira? :'(



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When I said BG I was referring to Bacanno, not Genshiken :-)

 


Oh, and also. If I watch Berserk will I be forced to go onto the manga because the anime doesn't wrap up its arc well at all?

 

Yep I know, I intend to watch both. I'm not sure when I will watch Bacanno, but its on the list. I'll make Genshiken my next watch though.

 

As for Berserk, the anime only goes 1 season and only handles the first arc of the manga, theres a new set of movies that are coming out now that will cover more of the manga. As for the manga, it will never be completed, not at this rate so its a hard one to recommend, which is a damn shame because its one of the best fantasy stories out there imo.



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Oh ffs -.-

 

Maybe if I do the first season I'll be satisfied with the ending and leave it there?

 

Or is going to do a Spice and Wolf on me?

 

"I love you"

 

THAT'S IT? WHAT THE FREAKING HELL MAN?!

 

argh -.-

 

Sorry... memories... arcs... ugh...

 

This is Tolkien's fault. Dying before ones work is finished is just rude! :crying:

 

Now I'll never get to read on the fourth age in detail. Where's the 'I need a hug' image when you need one?!



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This is how the first season ended, I will put a spoiler tag on it but I think you should look anyways and decide if this is a satisfying ending to a series.

 

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Berserk is also seriously effed up.



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Okay. I admit it.

 

I laughed.

 

Alot.

 

Out of frustration and out of the mental image in my head.

 

But it's so hard core I need to watch it now. You've done it again Isichar. I don't know how but you're a convincing person ><



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Well, if that is enough to convince you then you will be happy to know the story has tons more where that came from.

 

Berserk, Parasyte, wolfguy, Gantz... Theres some pretty messed up manga out there.



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I'm torn between my curiosity and my hate for unfinished stories.

 

Damn you and your awesome cliffhanger!

 

F*CK!

 

I'll just watch FMA:B for a third time (yeah, the second time is when I showed my mum and turned her into an otaku officially. I'm surprised she hasn't bought Roy Mustang doujinshi yet)


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Its honestly one of my favorite mangas, but its painful waiting for so long just for a chapter.. But yeah, if you like dark fantasy its one of the best out there. (funny enough this is the anime/manga that reminds me most of Baldurs Gate both in setting and in story)

 

If you want something messed up, that is still good, and also completed, then I'd suggest Gantz the manga version. Theres a anime for it but the pacing is seriously horrible (probably the worst I've seen in any anime, other then Bleach. Imagine you realize that someone is about to die, but the death is dragged out over the course of an entire episode... like seriously how do you mess up action that badly?) and it only has 1 season.



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Gantz, eh?

 

I'll check out the manga, sure. It'll be on my list.

 

You know.

 

The one that never stops f*cking growing xD



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Oh, I know... I know :pinched:

 

Completely random but another classic (2004 but I consider it a classic) you should add to your list (lol  ^_^) if you have not watched it already is Samurai Champloo. Its funny, somewhat historical and has some badass fight sequences. Definitely one of the more memorable animes I remember from when I was younger.

 

1 season, 26 episodes, and it wraps everything up rather nicely.



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Yep I know, I intend to watch both. I'm not sure when I will watch Bacanno, but its on the list. I'll make Genshiken my next watch though.

 

As for Berserk, the anime only goes 1 season and only handles the first arc of the manga, theres a new set of movies that are coming out now that will cover more of the manga. As for the manga, it will never be completed, not at this rate so its a hard one to recommend, which is a damn shame because its one of the best fantasy stories out there imo.

 

The Black Swordsman Arc as a movie? Yes please. As for the manga, it's a real shame. Such a great story. Maybe all these movies coming out, the interest in Berserk will pick up again. Kentaro must finish this series! He must!


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Oh, I know... I know :pinched:

 

Completely random but another classic (2004 but I consider it a classic) you should add to your list (lol  ^_^) if you have not watched it already is Samurai Champloo. Its funny, somewhat historical and has some badass fight sequences. Definitely one of the more memorable animes I remember from when I was younger.

 

1 season, 26 episodes, and it wraps everything up rather nicely.

 

You want me to quit the gym, dont' you? xD

 

Fine, I'll add it to the list :D


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