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So a friend of mine finally convinced me to watch Attack on Titan (since its on Netflix now, I don't have to sit through the ads on Crunchyroll).

 

I'm about 13 episodes in and...I want to like the show, I really do, but it is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to make me stop watching.

 

I love the idea and the setting, its very original, but the pacing....is so....damn....slow.  I like several of the characters, but when it takes them A WHOLE EPISODE to monologue about something that should take a few seconds, I just can't stay interested.  The whole Attack on Trost arc could have done with at least 3 episodes less of Armin losing his sh*t, and people freaking out.

 

I don't think I've ever been this frustrated with a show.

 

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The pacing is fine, if they went too fast or did not take a break after season 2(yes season 2, 13 episodes in Japan is a season, so we're waiting for season 3 now) they would pass where the manga is, which would mean AoT would have to deliver anime only content which is not good as similar incidents had happen in the past and it pissed off the fans of such series and created a big mess. This is what happens when you are doing something on a manga that is still going.



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So a friend of mine finally convinced me to watch Attack on Titan (since its on Netflix now, I don't have to sit through the ads on Crunchyroll).

 

I'm about 13 episodes in and...I want to like the show, I really do, but it is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to make me stop watching.

 

I love the idea and the setting, its very original, but the pacing....is so....damn....slow.  I like several of the characters, but when it takes them A WHOLE EPISODE to monologue about something that should take a few seconds, I just can't stay interested.  The whole Attack on Trost arc could have done with at least 3 episodes less of Armin losing his sh*t, and people freaking out.

 

I don't think I've ever been this frustrated with a show.

 

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You're actually the first person that I have come across who calls Attack on Titan slow paced :P I personally thought the pace was good.

 

First of all, its based on a manga which is still in progress, so they can't get too far ahead with the story otherwise they will catch up with it (something to keep in mind :)). Secondly, can you refer to me a specific monologue that you thought went on for too long? I never really felt that some things got really dragged out so I'm interested to see which points you thought were dragged on :)

 

I thought the Battle of Trost was the right length. The whole Armin losing his **** thing was part of his character developent - in fact, alot of characters got good development during Trost (Jean for example).



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It's not going to be the most coherent thing I've ever written but because I had a terrible time actually sleeping last night, my editing and thread tying skills are kind of iffy right now. In saying that, I figured it was time to finally throw my bullet points around to show what I've been up to in the last few days. There's not really rhyme or reason to these points but they do get progressively longer when my thoughts go back to Homura cause, well, favorite character gets the monopoly on my brainpower

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I'll be timing my own rewatch of the movies for this weekend too then, Isi. :3 Probably going to actively take notes here too on the little details I might have thought about a million times but never mentioned.

Also, as much as I adore the regular version of Magia, this German orchestral version is just so astounding.to me.
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I like the characters, and I I'll agree they were developed fine, I just feel Armin was a bit one note for a while.  The monologue thing was hyperbole fueled by frustration lol.

 

Not catching to the manga (and filling episode quota) might help explain the pacing, but I do feel it is too slow for its own good.  Episodes 1-6 were fine in my opinion, but then I feel they were just padding things out.  Breaking up climactic events with cliffhangers and flashbacks has also hurt the show imo.

 

But you know, opinions for everyone!  I like the idea, the characters, and the setting, but the pacing isn't working for me.  I feel like I'm working to watch this show and its not giving me enough in return.  Like I said, I want to like the show because it has so much going for it, it just left me bored after 13 episodes.



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If you think the cliffhangers are bad now, imagine watching it weekly like some of us did...


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If you think the cliffhangers are bad now, imagine watching it weekly like some of us did...

 

Yeah, I would have abandoned it no doubt about that.  I'll probably finish the series, but I need a bit of a break before I watch the second half.



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If you think the cliffhangers are bad now, imagine watching it weekly like some of us did...

 

I was so glad I found out about it after all the episodes were released :D



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I like the characters, and I I'll agree they were developed fine, I just feel Armin was a bit one note for a while.  The monologue thing was hyperbole fueled by frustration lol.

 

Not catching to the manga (and filling episode quota) might help explain the pacing, but I do feel it is too slow for its own good.  Episodes 1-6 were fine in my opinion, but then I feel they were just padding things out.  Breaking up climactic events with cliffhangers and flashbacks has also hurt the show imo.

 

But you know, opinions for everyone!  I like the idea, the characters, and the setting, but the pacing isn't working for me.  I feel like I'm working to watch this show and its not giving me enough in return.  Like I said, I want to like the show because it has so much going for it, it just left me bored after 13 episodes.

 

That's totally fine :) AoT is definitly not for everyone and hey, atleast you gave it a chance! ^_^



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Wow really?  I haven't been following the conversation but I'm curious what made you think so.  I personally found it to be original, entertaining, and quite compelling, but I get that different people like different things.

 

Well, you haven't been following the conversation, so I'll be repeating myself..

 

I don't find the animation good, I don't find Mako funny at all and I find the entire plot far too silly and convoluted (I know some people think there is no such thing, but there is ALWAYS too much or too lille of any thing.)

Entertaining yes.

But so is a train crash. Also I generally dislike overhyped things.

 

 

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I worship everything that Gainax makes so of course if you dislike KLK you must hate all the silly and stylish anime ever made.

Because KLK is the best Gainax anime that Gainax made with their Gainax money ever.

 

Also I am on some but not much benadryl or antihistamine whatever you want to call it and you forgot who Chuck Norris is.

 

I really can't tell if it's sarcams or not with you anymore.

 

But yes you did claim that I hate funny/silly anime based only on me not liking TTGL and KLK as much as you. Because only 2 two anime fall into that category. Which makes me curious what you think anime like Excel Saga, Nichijou, Cromartie High, etc... are? Serious dramas?

 

Also: Chuck Norris? WFT does he have to do with anime?

Don't tell me you refer to that "Manly Man" thread? If so, read the bolded again.

And I still can't see any connection unless of course you are assuming that:

1) CN is homophobic

2) I actually care that he is/isn't

3) That it has any connection or relevance to a completely different attribute/trait

4) I honestly and really believe in such manliness concepts



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Gundam! :D



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You're actually the first person that I have come across who calls Attack on Titan slow paced :P I personally thought the pace was good.

 

Some people can't focus on stuff for more than 5 seconds without s'plosions. That's why we have our Lord and Savior, Michael Bay. And fast-paced anime.

Makes me wonder how many of anime fans have actually read a decent book (BOOK, not manga) lately.


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Depends what you consider a decent book I suppose.

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Anyone read naruto today

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Anyone read naruto today


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Some people can't focus on stuff for more than 5 seconds without s'plosions. That's why we have our Lord and Savior, Michael Bay. And fast-paced anime.

Makes me wonder how many of anime fans have actually read a decent book (BOOK, not manga) lately.

 

I thought its pace slow because its cut to flashbacks was rather awkward. Pacing is an important part of story telling, Lotion. Don't be to hasty to judge what is actually meant by it.

 

For example, in my opinion, the first battle took far too long. Yes, pacing also means the extent of a battle, you need to have it just right. It's what makes a 3 hour movie feel like 1 hour, or a 1 hour movie feel like 3.

 

However, what saves it is its overall narrative. If that was any where near the level of mediocre, I don't think I could have lasted long. But I enjoyed the characters, the setting, the premise AND the plot enough to go through it.

 

In the end, I loved it.

 

P.S My friend was showing me a Bleach fight with Ichigo and some other dude. Well it was more like 4 minutes of fighting and 12 of monologues. That's horrible for anything. When a book, movie or series intends to show you action, you expect action. Imagine if in Clash of Kings G.R.R Martin decided to have a four Jon POVs in between the battle of KL at the most inconvenient times.


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#11366
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If you think the cliffhangers are bad now, imagine watching it weekly like some of us did...

That's what us young hip people call "watching a serial" now you know.

 

Tho I just read it.



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I prefer to eat the cereal, especially Anderson's, when he's not home.


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So you are saying you went into someone else's home and watched Attack on Titan on their computer without them knowing?!



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So you are saying you went into someone else's home and watched Attack on Titan on their computer without them knowing?!

 

It's the best way to watch any anime. You should try it xD


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Who said I don't already do it?!



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Who said I don't already do it?!

 

 

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DAT HAIR! :o


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DAT HAIR! :o

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*Freindship* +15


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