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[Milan92]

Dem Shrooms

 

Great episode!

[Mr.House]

Why am I not surprised Lotion is badmouthing KLK?  Happens more then my cat itching her herself.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Why am I not surprised Lotion is badmouthing KLK?  Happens more then my cat itching her herself.

 

 

Why am I not surprised that any time I do, the "rescue brigade" drops in implying how mean I am? Or obsessed? The irony of ironies.

[CrazyRah]

But we certainly are the most adorable, awesome and gushable "rescue brigade"

 

[TheClonesLegacy]

 even Golden Age Superman wasn't this bad.

Golden Age Superman is actually pretty weak in comparison to other versions of the character, he couldn't even fly, just jump really high.

So I don't think the analogy works here.

[Clover Rider]

 

Golden Age Superman is my hero.

 

He gets a 10/10 too

[TheClonesLegacy]

 

Golden Age Superman is my hero.

 

He gets a 10/10 too

 

He is pretty awesome.

[Dean_the_Young]

I don't think it has that much to do with being a "seasoned anime fan". I am one.

And blatant fanservice often vexes me.

 

 

Speakign of which, I forced myself to watch more of KLK. Why do so many of he fights feel like pointless fillers? We already know the main protag is 10 times stronger than the elite four. Her outfit is a 10 star, theirs is a 3-star (and a 1-star can't even hurt a 3-star). Plus, she has a weapon that will take them out in ONE hit. All of the elite 4 basically have powers that are all a variation of "you can't hit me because I can see your moves/am invisible/can fly/can reflect your attack back"..  Made even more evidently by the fact they hit her a thousand times during those battles, and she shrugs it off. And then gets a new crazy power because the plot sez so, hits them one - battle over. Frak, even Golden Age Superman wasn't this bad.

 

Also Satsuki is bland, uninteresting character. Her "fake" greatness is over-the top and showed in your face worse that a Jehova Witnesees pamphlet.

I agree with you here. It's a common flaw for shounen and escalating power levels- almost as bad as the overly common 'I'll get another dozen second winds despite serious injuries because hot blooded.' I don't mind it so much because KLK is so over the top it never pretends to be serious, but I can definitely see where it can't not entertain people.

 

A personal dislike of mine is constantly escalating exponential power growth in shounen. The sort where the Great Big Bad of the arc is suddenly demoted to a lieutenant or mook power level once the hero surpasses them and faces the next challenger. Bleach is replete with this, and some of those other shounen cliches, to the point that after a point the entire series is just increasing the magnitude of power to pretend to have some sort of drama. (Except there really is none, because Ichigo will pull out some new power level and as many second winds as needed to win the fight.) Similar problems exist in Fairy Tale and One Piece- no matter how much the heroes get beaten down, they get more and more second winds as the plot demands.

 

 

One of these days, I'd like to see a shounen series with a power canceler character who can't be overcome with hot blooded passion. It'd probably be a deconstructive story, but can you imagine if passion-based powers and growth were suddenly nullified? Where one hot-blooded youth, rather than tearing through hundreds of soldiers and landscape, is instead made tired by sprinting up a hill and then overwhelmed in short order by numbers?

 

I think anime needs a 'End of the Shounen Era' story.

[Clover Rider]

Superman stopping the evils of Hitler and the Nazis was one of the many big reasons we won the war.

 

Superman is just a great hero, as well as being the best dad ever.

 

 

Also Superman adopted Jimmy????

 

Also what thread am I in??? Where am I?!

 

 

 

 

@Dean Every shonen should be like JoJo where the only way to stop the godlike big bad is with an amazing deus ex machina.

 

Like sending them off to space.

 

So they stop thinking.

 

Forever. 

 

 

And I will add that Fairy Tail, Bleach and Naruto (after the Chunin arc) have awful fights and bad writing.

 

One Piece and its fights are okay tho, I give more of a pass to it for the same reason you have for KLK, it being more over the top and silly.

 

 

Have you ever read/watched Hunter x Hunter? Not exactly what you are looking for, but it is a bit of a deconstructive of shonen as well as playing it straight. You might find it interesting.

 

 

 

 

Anyways everyone get back to KLK gifs!

[Puzzlewell]

There's KlK spoilers under here.

 

Spoiler

It's really one of those times where I feel that sort of set up is excusable after you finish (best episode of the series, so far, unngh) 18. Yes it follows the typical 'Hey, the hero found out their new powers and the fight is suddenly pushed back into their favor! :D' in that portion of the series but it (for me at least) makes sense *why* once we find out Ryuko is a human/life fiber hybrid.

 

So really it kind of becomes a case of Trigger taking something so common in a shounen series and actually lays out why it's possible within the universe later.  It didn't really bother me even before the explanation though, since I mostly figured it was a lot of what the series puts forward is possible by willpower and not giving up. Nothing can stop Ryuko when what she wants is almost in her reach! *Mako hands*

[Gravisanimi]

Give me a minute, I'm going to gush over Yoko's biggest asset

 

 

No no no, I talking about your rifle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*drools*

 

You would- nah, you would probably know how much NSFW I had to wade through to find these gifs.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Spoiler

Needed.

[Gravisanimi]

A smart, kind redheaded girl with a high-powered rifle.

 

That raises so many flags that I look like the front of the UN

[TheClonesLegacy]

That's the second best joke I've heard all day.

[Druk-Qs]

Screw her

Spoiler

kiss of death

 

though

[TheClonesLegacy]

I...Yeah, That's nice.

[Gravisanimi]

I'm not a big fan of hentai.

 

It kills the character when they do that the majority of the time.

[Druk-Qs]

Why do you think that?

[TheClonesLegacy]

Put in spoilers

Spoiler

How do I put this?

In the case of hentai...

...Most of it is...non-consensual...

That and alot of other reasons make it rather degrading, especially in Yokos case, given the fact she's heavily marketed for her body, despite being a very strong character. I think that's what Gravy means

[Gravisanimi]

When the source material is hentai, yeah, sure, sometimes it has a plot and interesting characters.

 

But when it is non-hentai source into hentai fanart, it tends to become... disconnected. It feels like the character isn't there, just some doll put in their place.