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[Isichar]

I'm actually not sure what the Dark Sea plot is tbh

 

The epilogue was pretty laughable, I liked it but for all the wrong reasons XD

 

Saw Tamers and mostly liked it, never saw Frontier though, how is it compared to the other 3?

[Clover Rider]

Episode 13.

 

That was the first overall plot episode or was going to be anyway. It had a lot of Cthulhu Mythos to it. Toei didn't like it , thought it was too dark for a kid show. So that's why they dropped it to make room later for the creepy old man kidnapping kids and putting them in his van plot. Because that's not dark in Toei's eyes.

 

 

 

 

Frontier starts a little slow but picks up later when the first real bad guys and plot start to show up. The cast is good too. Like with Tamers it still has some Lain on the writing such as Kouichi's character. I say it's almost as good as Adventure and Tamers but still worth a watch. Also Lucifer is the final big bad in the show and he has Freeza's voice.

 

 

So there is that.

[Dean_the_Young]

I'm actually not sure what the Dark Sea plot is tbh

 

 

It was the Dark Ocean episode in which Kari is taken to digi-Cthulu's realm by servants. She's rescued by TK as Dragomon is seen in the background, and it's never raised again.

 

Which is a shame. The 02 setting and Dark Ocean were awesome contexts for a sequel series. That place was just pure despair and evil, and I even made my own mental Digimon 03 that tied into it.

 

 

 

The epilogue was pretty laughable, I liked it but for all the wrong reasons XD

 

 

I think Digimon was the last series I ever got into shipping for. Naturally, I hated the ending.
 

 

Saw Tamers and mostly liked it, never saw Frontier though, how is it compared to the other 3?

 

Meh. It builds its own world, but got rid of the digimon partners. The human-monster partnership is the crux of the series: partners are the friends the humans need, not the ones they want or transform into.

 

The next one, Digimon Savers, was better. It was a mix of a shounen and digimon, and worked pretty well. Shame it rushed the ending, but who can hate it when the main character gets his partner to digivolve by punching the enemy in the face?

 

Every enemy, from champion to mega, in the face.

 

Ah, cheezy shounen at its classic.

[CrazyRah]

I finished Medaka Box.

 

Now to stare silently at the wall and contemplate whether it is futile to continue on with life when I am at my happiest now?

 

 

We'll join you!

[Clover Rider]

Yeah Daimon made Savers for me. lol

 

And yeah Digimon was one of the first real fandoms that had shipping.

 

And Toei hated it.

 

I guess.

[Dean_the_Young]

Yup.

 

Adventure 02 sucked tho.

I think the biggest weakness was Daisuke, which is a shame because he was my favorite character. From what I read, the producers actually forbid him from getting a major development arc of his own, so he started somewhat annoying and... got better, but didn't have the oomph of some of the others.

 

But honestly, though, I loved how it developed and ended. Ken's redemption arc was great, and the gradual escalation and expansion of the season into the real world was awesome to a kid like me. I loved the Christmas Invasion arc, with the international digidestined and how by the end the whole masqarade was blown open. The idea of everyone in the world getting a partner, of the digital guardians removing the government information/preparations on the digiworld, of how the thousand points of light won out... loved it. Made me wish I could have a partner of my own.

 

I think 01 was better on its own, but 02 turned it into a world that I wanted to keep exploring.

[Dean_the_Young]

Yeah Daimon made Savers for me. lol

 

And yeah Digimon was one of the first real fandoms that had shipping.

 

And Toei hated it.

 

I guess.

 

I was a Thomas fan. First time I went for the cool/intellectual type. Probably one of my favored foils, though I wish Daimon had reciprocated a bit more by showing some respect in turn. As it was, Thomas's betrayal arc was like the cooler, less emotional version of Matt's betrayal.

[Clover Rider]

I think the biggest weakness was Daisuke, which is a shame because he was my favorite character. From what I read, the producers actually forbid him from getting a major development arc of his own, so he started somewhat annoying and... got better, but didn't have the oomph of some of the others.

 

But honestly, though, I loved how it developed and ended. Ken's redemption arc was great, and the gradual escalation and expansion of the season into the real world was awesome to a kid like me. I loved the Christmas Invasion arc, with the international digidestined and how by the end the whole masqarade was blown open. The idea of everyone in the world getting a partner, of the digital guardians removing the government information/preparations on the digiworld, of how the thousand points of light won out... loved it. Made me wish I could have a partner of my own.

 

I think 01 was better on its own, but 02 turned it into a world that I wanted to keep exploring.

Daisuke never got real character development but that didn't stop other characters from saying how much he grew. lol

 

Ken's character arc was great but it never really had an ending to it. They are just sending Daemon to the Dark Ocean of dropped plots (that's what he wanted goddamn it) and have the characters saying.

 

"Boy Ken you sure did grow as a person and you are so awesome"

 

I think they just remembered right there, near the ending that Ken had a character arc. lol

 

I liked them both but they needed more care. As for the other two new characters Miyako sucked and Iori was fine.

 

Everything else I agree with you. But the epilogue killed it all as well as a few solar systems and kittens.

[Clover Rider]

The Freeza voice is mostly the reason he worked for me. lol

[Fuzzicar]

Anyone here ever read/seen the series 'Ginga Nagareboshi Gin' 'Ginga Densetsu Weed' or 'Kekkaishi'?

[CptBomBom00]

So I just started to watch JoJo's BA Stardust Crusaders and Gantz, and hmmmmmm; JoJo starts to look good but Gantz is bit slow.

[Isichar]

Gantz has freaking terrible pacing, I'd recommend the manga but not the anime.

[Dean_the_Young]

Daisuke never got real character development but that didn't stop other characters from saying how much he grew. lol

 

Ken's character arc was great but it never really had an ending to it. They are just sending Daemon to the Dark Ocean of dropped plots (that's what he wanted goddamn it) and have the characters saying.

 

"Boy Ken you sure did grow as a person and you are so awesome"

 

I think they just remembered right there, near the ending that Ken had a character arc. lol

 

I liked them both but they needed more care. As for the other two new characters Miyako sucked and Iori was fine.

 

Everything else I agree with you. But the epilogue killed it all as well as a few solar systems and kittens.

And the thousand ships of Taiora, lol.

 

But at least it had a happy ending. Digimon Tamers was a lot more bitter-sweet, especially if you followed the CD drama that filled that hope spot in your heart with a bunch of concrete.

 

Then again, Digimon Tamers had a genuinely creepy eldritch abomination enemy at the end. D-Reaper was legitimately creepy: it could probably take on the Reapers and have a decent chance at winning. Talk about an evil AI evolution- the Catalyst was right!

 

(Except for all the friendly digimon, which are technically more like benevolent AI. So it was wrong.)

[Clover Rider]

Taiora! Why God?! Why do this to me?!

 

A happy bad ending is still a bad ending. I still, to this day have no clue what Toei was thinking. Haha

 

Yeah Tamers had Chiaki J. Konaka as the writer. And he is a Cthulhu Mythos writer and he loves putting in Lovecraftian stuff in his work.

 

D-Reaper was f**king creepy. One wonders why Toei didn't force Komaka to drop it and a add a creepy old man kidnapping kids and putting them in his van.

 

Since that's not creepy at all!

 

And yeah when you think about it Digimon are AI.

 

 

The future of AI everybody!

[Dean_the_Young]

I think one of the cooler/funner aspects of the Digimon franchise (other than the fact that it may or may not all be one big omniverse) is the premise of the digital world as a parallel world which you can travel through to get from point A to point B in the real world. Space travel seems obsolete when your colonization ship is now a server satelite.

 

But the idea of hiding out in the digital world (or digimon hiding in the real world) was one I thought could have had potential as a series in and of itself. Sort of like a conceptual crossover with Fallout, only instead of Vaults you have computer bunkers to sustain the digital world, instead of mutants you have monsters, and instead of the Dark Ocean you could have the lost Real World serve as the nasty ground of bad guys/survivors left behind who just want out of the hellhole.

 

You could get some good **** from that.

[Clover Rider]

And Leomon would die in that series right?

 

It's not a Digimon series without Leomon dying.

 

But yeah I get you.

 

Would be nice to just have a new series soon. That Gurren Lagannish Digimon show was only okayish (still can't believe they had Lilithmon on it, even tho she was a gag villain lol). I want a new show.

[Isichar]

Not sure if anyone cares (Aside from Ani of course ) but just a tidbit from my new art book, one of my favorites

 

Sorry it's not better quality.

[Gravisanimi]

Finished Gurren Lagann.

 

I think the series could easily be titled as "Gurren Lagann: Who the hell do you think we are?"

 

And directly into PMMM, first episode done, and I already don't trust this mystical cat that calls itself Kyubey. Something is wrong about a creature that has a mouth that doesn't move when it speaks.

 

And old saying is "A mouth without movement is a mouth that hides the truth."

[eroeru]

Gantz has freaking terrible pacing, I'd recommend the manga but not the anime.

Gantz has fantastic arthouse and nightmare-type pacing. This reads ugly and pretentious, and tho people often think Gantz is just sexism with no substance, it really doesn't promote anything evil, it's just an "sinister" work of art that really is unique and weird in its mindset. Some people and geth are disgusted, but I'd say that if one doesn't put a blind eye to psychopathology and the real crazy and unhumane of the real world, one would be rather intrigued. It's also rather symbolistic and philosophical. No heroes to find there, only very "pure" forms of primal psychological issues, as characterized also in nightmare situations (at least those im intrigued with and remember).

On a similar note, I loved Eva 3. People keep saying it's disappointing, I keep at it that they don't have a clue what themes and ideas make Eva a fantastic and grand work.

[Clover Rider]

Gantz suuuuuuucksssss 0/0 4ever 4life bros lol

 

The Eva movies are pretty good tho.

 

They get a 10/10