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[Arch1eviathan]

Bushido Effect wrote...

Oh. Thought you'd know about the OST by now since you saw the series before the rest of us. Only downloaded the OST earlier. Sounds great for ambiance. When did you watch it? It came out in 2006, I never knew at all back then. I finished high school in 2006 lol.

Arch1eviathan wrote...

Vincant Law is hands down one of my favorite anime characers.

What, you didn't like Re-l?  =p So far I'm not liking Vince, weird guy, sorry.  But again, I'm not done watching lol.  
Re-l is strikingly beautiful though, great design.  I'm suddenly attracted to her.  


Then again I like girls like that in real life too so yeah. heh.

I didn't like him at first and his character seemed kind of irrelivent but he gets a lot of character progression. Re-L is awesome but Vincant just gets better and better through out the series. I can;t really explain why he's so awesome without getting into spoilers but he's a pretty important character within the plot.

[Arch1eviathan]

Bushido Effect wrote...

Oh. Thought you'd know about the OST by now since you saw the series before the rest of us. Only downloaded the OST earlier. Sounds great for ambiance. When did you watch it? It came out in 2006, I never knew at all back then. I finished high school in 2006 lol.

I was still in high school around that time. it seems so long ago.

I finished the series a few weeks ago.

[Some Geth]

J. Reezy wrote...

RAGING_BULL wrote...
Im not a fan of those other series either you mentioned. I tend to shift towards shorter anime series. The longest one i was able to stick to was yu yu hakasho

That's because that show is awesome.

And because the manga was half way over by the time they made the show. So it had a lot less filler and bad pacing.

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 août 2012 - 02:42 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Ergo Proxy is kinda lik NGE. MuindF***. WTF ending. Weird. Except unlike NGE, it's not just the ending, but most of the show.
Beautifull visuals tough..

[Arch1eviathan]

it does have some serious mindf*k moments but the end is comprehensible and I had warm tingly feelings after finishing the series.

[eroeru]

Mind**** is mind**** only for people who don't like and/or are not used to any strain to thought and the brain.

Some Geth wrote...

How? What? I... need some water.

Haha.

Modifié par eroeru, 17 août 2012 - 07:04 .

[eroeru]

Some Geth wrote...

Well I would agree with you about Toriko, in the sense that the wildlife is not believable and real. I would then add it's not really meant to be, I mean look at this.

 

One of the first beasts we see Toriko take down. At this point you can tell the series is not trying to be realistic or serious. Not that is wrong for a series to be, if it can pull it off.

I mean it's a fantasy world, it's got proper depiction and knowledge of it's nature but not our world's nature. Something to keep in mind.

Again in the past I have said I don't hate fanservice, just bad fanservice. But sexism can go die in a fire.

Well I would agree that Toriko is not realistic, but you have to have in mind that not only, but it depicts actual things of nature in a very distorted and unhealthy/unrational/bad manner.



Looking at this picture you can see Highschool of the Dead doesn't take itself seriously. It's fantasy. How normal is it to objectify women like this, and how often do you see breasts and a waist like that, not to mention the slave-like mind-set?


(and I personally do think HotD is not so utterly awful in its depictions as is Toriko - nothing to do with it being in a manga/anime)

[Some Geth]

Like I said, nothing wrong with something that doesn't take itself seriously, as long it can pull it off well. HotD however does not pull it off well. And again sexism can go die in a fire.

As for the fact that Toriko "depicts actual things of nature in a very distorted and unhealthy/unrational/bad manner", that's kind of why it's cool though. :/

I mean it's a silly fun dumb series, that I really don't think hurts what nature is really like. It's a manga where you can sit back, relax and enjoy the Fist of the North Star like fights, also the beautiful drawings and descriptions of food.

You know? Talking about stuff like this makes me wonder if I should try to do manga reviews in this thread. I have never really wrote a review before, and this thread could help me get good at writing them. What do you think?

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 août 2012 - 03:14 .

[eroeru]

J. Reezy wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
 Talking about stuff like this makes me wonder if I should try to do manga reviews in this thread. I have never really wrote a review before, and this thread could help me get good at writing them. What do you think?

Go for it.

Ditto.

As for the comment that Toriko's merits are its sillyness - that gave a bit of perspective back to me.

Actually, I would be really glad to read such reviews. And I remember we went over it god knows when. Maybe about 20 pages back? So I do think now's the prime time for you to write some.

[Arch1eviathan]

^I hate that blond girl with fire!

[Laotar]

Those two are very... buoyant.

[Laotar]

Anyone seen Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom? I watched a few episodes last night and don't know if I should bother watching any more.

It just takes itself so seriously. Does it get better?

[eroeru]

RAGING_BULL wrote...

You think thats bad?

Try this

I do not think that's so very bad. I took Some Geth's criticism under consideration/fire.

edit: and the point was that the poachery and gluttony in Toriko is as much fantasy as the sexism in HotD. For the first Some Geth used the argument "it's not bad, it's fantasy" - for the second one I challenge his keennes in doing so.

So, for as much as I dislike showing off sexist behavior, I dislike it in HotD (I do so) - and as much as I dislike showing gluttonous poaching, I dislike it in Toriko. These "bad" things are not represented in the shows as pure reality-non-related fiction. And thus my dislike for Toriko, which I base on the position that this type of poachery 1.) is very bad and 2.) is depicted in Toriko, is valid.

Though the fact the poaching or sexism or whatnot is not real as such does downgrade the relevant nature and the amplitude of the dislike.

Also, and more importantly, I'm fairly certain that shows like HotD would not shake the nowadays very strong pillar of a humanist understanding that sexism (in real life - as opposed to depicting it) is wrong. But the things that are bad about Toriko (which are also worse problems in themselves than sexism, imo), are not considered bad as strongly. Especially in Japan where they don't give a **** how the ecosystem (especially in the waters) works normally, they don't give a **** if entire species die out. Even in the west these topics are imo most crucial to grow aware of in the same way as we've come to awareness about sexism. Popular culture, depiction and any type of treatment of the topic has a large role to play in either 1.) mistreating the topic and by that holding us back or 2.) progressing it forward into normal common-sense ethics (as has happened with the awareness regarding sexism), especially if there's little to no actually relevant, weightful and widespread discussion about it otherwise.

Humans don't make the world turn. The rest of the world, however, taken as a whole, does so.

Modifié par eroeru, 17 août 2012 - 08:39 .

[Laotar]

@ The Mad Hanar

Thanks, Black Butler is coming via UPS today so I will fast forward to that. And Cowboy Bebop is awesome. The characters are awesome. The story is awesome. I LOVE the music.

The story is nice and tightly woven. It is one of the better endings I have seen to an anime. There is no "why are you guys complaining? It's artistic integrity" nonsense at the end.

[Laotar]

@ Some Geth

Please start writing reviews. I would love for someone else besides me to waste their time watching this stuff and then tell me if it's any good.

[eroeru]

Laotar wrote...

There is no "why are you guys complaining? It's artistic integrity" nonsense at the end.

Luckily, I've yet to see that happen in anime.

[bmwcrazy]

I like ****** and zombies.

Don't hate.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 17 août 2012 - 09:00 .

[eroeru]

^^ It's hard to disagree with that tbh.

[Laotar]

bmwcrazy wrote...

I like ****** and zombies.

Don't hate.

High School of the Dead?