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Few things.  

 

That is Luci Christian as Nami, not Ruff.

 

You got all the character names spelled right.

 

I agree with everything but I have never been a big fan of Toei's art style for the show and the pacing becomes worst than DBZ later on. If you are right with the Funi episodes, you are still in the mostly okay parts before the awful pacing takes over. But to be a little more fair to Toei, like with the Merry stuff, they did have their moments where they are great.

 

And the filler, the anime filler I would never call a selling point. lol But yes it is very much the journey, not the destination. And it really works with that in mind.

 

If you ever do have the time, do try to read the manga. Because better art style and pacing helps a lot.

 

I mean I know anime only viewers are not going to understand why the Skypiea arc is the best arc. Because the pacing did hurt it in the show.

Whoops -- That's right. It is Luci Christian come to think of it now, lol. 

 

I think I worded it wrong. What I wanted to get across was that due to One Piece being a ridiculously long show it would inevitably lose me a bit because it would have to justify its length which doesn't always go well. It's a double edged sword in that respect. But it works because there's never really any grand goal, or overall red herring that signifies a beginning and an end -- The whole concept of the One Piece treasure is so obscure, and you could gather from things mentioned in the anime, that perhaps the treasure itself is a metaphor for the joys of adventure that is life.

 

Filler is usually never a good thing because it never seems to serve any larger purpose for corresponding main arc of any given show, beyond trying to distract you for a short while, until things that actually matter starts to kick off. Sometimes it can actually provide depth or a growth to certain characters, even if it doesn't advance the plot, but that seems rarely to be the case. One Piece is fun, because it's essentially the sort of show where you can just jump straight into one day where you're left with nothing else to watch -- It's not like it's a time-killer either because as we've established, One Piece, when it is best, provides plenty of drama, action and even comedy to at least provide the occasional chuckle, which would be enough to keep me satisfied at least. Although its length can also risk me forgetting certain stuff in the long run, and glaring issues of quality in comparison to earlier episodes can potentially become more apparent. At least that's my overall impression so far though. I'm sure you know more than I do it about it.



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@ClonesLegacy

 

Well the Car mechs have been in Sentai shows before even the ones they used for Power Rangers. Like Turboranger, not Power Rangers Turbo, this Turboranger.

 

Fun fact, that might have been the Sentai that gave them the idea for Power Rangers, since it was the first Sentai to have teens in high school.

 

Carranger, the show they used for Power Rangers Turbo was a parody and the people making Power Rangers had two sides on how to make it. One wanted to make it more "serious" and the other wanted it to be more silly like the Sentai.

 

So that's why it is a mess. And yeah Space was better, also nothing like its Sentai.

 

Wild Force had moments here and there, mostly the acting was just bad. Well badder than most PR shows.

 

Super Megaforce just has no idea how to be an anniversary season like Gokaiger did. Gokaiger did bring up a lot of stuff from older shows, but they were very much their own team. Also acting is better.

 

Also lol Carranger/Tubo, Gaoranger/Wild Force and Gokaiger/Super Megaforce are all anniversary seasons. Power Rangers just seems to have problems with them. Look at Operation Overdrive. 


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That Rap opening is pure evil!

 

As for Wild Force. I despise pro-enviromental shows, because they are always preachy, and it's acting was a terrible step down from Time Force which was very well acted.

But Reinforcements from the Future was a good team up episode, and Forever Red was a nice treat (Aside from Serpentera being taken out by an ugly CGI motorbike, but the wirework and overall direction of the fights was just awesome)

As for Overdrive, Once a Ranger is alright, and it helps Adam is my favorite Mighty Morphin Ranger (I'm a frog) and the fact it was Johnny Yong Bosch.

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Whoops -- That's right. It is Luci Christian come to think of it now, lol. 

 

I think I worded it wrong. What I wanted to get across was that due to One Piece being a ridiculously long show it would inevitably lose me a bit because it would have to justify its length which doesn't always go well. It's a double edged sword in that respect. But it works because there's never really any grand goal, or overall red herring that signifies a beginning and an end -- The whole concept of the One Piece treasure is so obscure, and you could gather from things mentioned in the anime, that perhaps the treasure itself is a metaphor for the joys of adventure that is life.

 

Filler is usually never a good thing because it never seems to serve any larger purpose for corresponding main arc of any given show, beyond trying to distract you for a short while, until things that actually matter starts to kick off. Sometimes it can actually provide depth or a growth to certain characters, even if it doesn't advance the plot, but that seems rarely to be the case. One Piece is fun, because it's essentially the sort of show where you can just jump straight into one day where you're left with nothing else to watch -- It's not like it's a time-killer either because as we've established, One Piece, when it is best, provides plenty of drama, action and even comedy to at least provide the occasional chuckle, which would be enough to keep me satisfied at least. Although its length can also risk me forgetting certain stuff in the long run, and glaring issues of quality in comparison to earlier episodes can potentially become more apparent. At least that's my overall impression so far though. I'm sure you know more than I do it about it.

Haha Oh yeah I get you there. For me, and keep in mind I am just talking about the manga mostly here, I trust Oda to deliver a good ending to the series that will also justify the length for most people. I actually think it already has done that tho. Oda started with a 5 year plan but all the way back to the arc where Usopp first shows up you can tell that it was going to be longer. Because he was having fun with the series and getting used to the serialization. 

 

And this is where I disagree with you on a few things but only because you anime noob watcher and me manga sexy smart reader. The very first 100 chapters, from Luffy's village to Loguetown was the beginning, the prologue. The time skip is the middle. And the ending will be the ending. Duh

 

It has a overall plot and it gets there when it needs to get there.

 

And about the One Piece itself. You right in that it is obscure when they talk about it, but the reason for that being a lot of characters in the world of One Piece don't even believe it is real. At least at the point where you are at. So yeah you could make the case the One Piece is the adventure itself or the joys of life and you would be right but also the One Piece is very much a real thing. And no it's not the goddamn straw hat. lol I just don't want to get into spoilers here.

 

Put it this way Luffy views the title of Pirate King as the person who has the most freedom. And he wants the adventure to get that title to be fun and perfect. If someone say, gave a spoiler to him about how to get the One Piece, he would quit the adventure right there and then. lol

 

Now as to forgetting stuff this is another reason why the manga is better. It has cover page stories of what other characters are doing. Sometimes they are there because they lead up to the character showing up again like with Buggy. It's something I wish other long manga would do more. The anime only did the Buggy and Coby stories and not the rest.

 

And I agree with you on filler. One arc people call filler too much is the Davy Back Fight arc. Now I can agree if just talking about the anime. But not in the manga, for one it was shorter, two it brings up that they need a shipwright and last of all it ends with Aokiji showing up there. And the last two things lead into the next arc.

 

As for quality issues as it goes on, like I said the anime gets worse and worse. But for the manga, I say it was having problems in the last two arcs before the one going on right now. For a few reasons but I am trying to keep this short here so imma skip those. For other stuff Sanji's character gets bad and part of that is because One Piece's view on women got worse mostly. And that's sad because the series is still very progressive on other issues, for a Japanese work anyway. Nami is still awesome tho.

 

I also didn't care for the Enies Lobby arc just being more or less a battle arena, more so after just coming off the great Water 7 arc. The best parts of Enies Lobby was the Robin stuff so it makes up for it, somewhat.

 

Overall I say it's mostly the same quality-wise even with the arcs being bigger and longer. Still has a great sense of adventure, humor and all that other stuff that makes it good.

 

 

So to make this all very short, read the manga.


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That Rap opening is pure evil!

 

 

As for Wild Force. I despise pro-enviromental shows, because they are always preachy, and it's acting was a terrible step down from Time Force which was very well acted.

But Reinforcements from the Future was a good team up episode, and Forever Red was a nice treat (Aside from Serpentera being taken out by an ugly CGI motorbike, but the wirework and overall direction of the fights was just awesome)

 

As for Overdrive, Once a Ranger is alright, and it helps Adam is my favorite Mighty Morphin Ranger (I'm a frog) and overall they used the best characters from Ninja Storm-Mystic force for the most part (Cam was my personal favorite from Ninja Storm, but I get it more girls needed, and I like Tori enough).

Boukenger opening>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OO rap.

 

For pro-environmental stuff, when Super Sentai does it, it mostly is just because the bad guys need to pollute the world to destroy everything!!! Sometimes they might get into it a little bit more, but overall it's just a reason to beat up a monster week by week.

 

Time Force acting was really good, a one time thing. A one Time Force thing.

 

Yeah Forever Red was good. What Gaoranger got was a uhhhh mostly clip show movie. The non clip show parts were good. Once a Ranger got the idea to have members from the last few shows and some older ones from it and the Boukenger vs Super Sentai movie. And haha they picked the same blue in Boukenger vs Super Sentai, makes sense both Nanami and Tori were popular from their shows.

 

And the all Red rangers thing came from this part in the movie. At least Forever Red mostly had all the Reds in person. But that was only 10 shows, Gaoranger was show number 25 in Japan.

 

Also interesting that Gokaiger didn't have a movie like Gaoranger and Boukenger did. But they had characters from all over the older shows in their episodes anyways.

 

I wonder what show number 40 will be like?



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For pro-environmental stuff, when Super Sentai does it, it mostly is just because the bad guys need to pollute the world to destroy everything!!! Sometimes they might get into it a little bit more, but overall it's just a reason to beat up a monster week by week.

My main issue was Wild Force had that god kid who was terrible.

 

Anyway Saban has been treating the big crossover for Super Megaforce absolutely terribly. Especially since they didn't bother to contact anyone from the Disney seasons (Which means the Jungle Fury Rangers have been snubbed. AGAIN! Despite in my opinion being one of the better seasons), and according to David Yost, his E-mail didn't even bother to include his name.


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So I finished Rin... and yeah, I liked it! I liked it a lot actually.

 

The story goes a lot like Kaiba where its episodic until a certain point where the plot reaches its climax. The supernatural element has its consistency and doesn't really shift paradigms dramatically like most 'magical' things do in anime.

 

The main cast are well written and rounded, so it's not like we're getting one dimensional lesbian hotties here for the sake of it. And that's another thing. The only part where I'm kind of on the middle is its representation of women.

 

On one hand, both Rin and Mimi aren't just fanservice girls. They're well written and share the sort of relationship a couple whose lasted god knows how many years would: open. So it's a mature relationship, sexually and emotionally.

 

And yet, you have these moments where there are women who seem to be into S&M. Also, the 'angel concept' (being that men and women inherit different 'types' of powers) is... weird? Hell, I'd go as far as to say it screws with the image of men. Angels and Immortals are 'sex-crazy' for each other and really can't resist one another. The thing is, Angels 'devour' Immortals... it's kind of gruesome if you think about it.

 

However, despite all that I can't really say "ah this is some Freezing BS." And by Freezing I mean just blatant fanservice.

 

Perhaps it's the way it's written. Sex is sex after all, there is nothing wrong with it. There are a number of times you see Rin nude because circumstances or because she's making love, but it's never "omg let's put sweat on her and make 'dem ****** shine' crap. You see her as an adult who has done this 1000 times before and will do this 1000 again once you're in your grave being eaten by worms.

 

It's not like she's some sex-addict, or that you're constantly seeing her ass every 5 minutes. Hell, most of the time she's wearing a suit like this.

 

670px-57,617,0,360-RIN.~Daughters.of.Mne

 

Then again, the topic of women, femininity and sex is touchy. You have to be cautious and basically what I'm trying to say here is that it's presented in a way that doesn't make you cringe. So I suppose the word here is 'mature?' But that word really comes with its own set of problems :D

 

So, aside from that the plot is solid. The main villain's motives are stupid though, but the connection between Rin and the Maeno family through out time is well done, so there's a connection between each arc, even though there are time skips (I think the story goes through 60 years) there's a consistency that makes the story 'stick.' You aren't wondering 'who the hell is he?' Like you would in DA2's time skips. Characters from the past return and their older selves.

 

From a detective plot to full-blown supernatural to the end. It subtly climbs to this 'save the world' kind of thing, but it doesn't really moon its arse at you, the climb is steady and well paced so you aren't left like

 

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Overall I'd say it's a good watch with great characters, action and a solid plot to boot. Radical feminists stay away and liberal feminists evaluate and analyse to your heart's content! :D

 

(This goes for men's rights as Angels are sex-crazed dogs.)


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this library is cool

 

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My main issue was Wild Force had that god kid who was terrible.

 

Anyway Saban has been treating the big crossover for Super Megaforce absolutely terribly. Especially since they didn't bother to contact anyone from the Disney seasons (Which means the Jungle Fury Rangers have been snubbed. AGAIN! Despite in my opinion being one of the better seasons), and according to David Yost, his E-mail didn't even bother to include his name.

Yeah GaoGod worked better in Gaoranger.

 

And yeah, don't get me wrong I am happy they are getting some older Rangers back but some of the Disney ones were good too.

 

Best thing about Super Megaforce is after so long we have the Dairanger suits, about goddamn time.



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this library is cool

 

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Burn it all.

 

I love Shrek.

 

But burn it to the f*cking ground.

 

P.S

 

Remembering when I f*cking said I just 'couldn't handle' subs.

 

Isi, why didn't you kick me in the balls?



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Hey

 

F**k off

 

The Spectacular Spider-Man was great.


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Yeah GaoGod worked better in Gaoranger.

 

And yeah, don't get me wrong I am happy they are getting some older Rangers back but some of the Disney ones were good too.

I liked most of the Disney seasons.

Ninja Storm was ok, Dino Thunder was pretty good, SPD was alot of fun.

Then you get to Mystic Force and Overdrive, but we can forget those.

Then there's Jungle Fury which I honestly really love that season.

RPM was just whatever.

Hey

 

F**k off

 

The Spectacular Spider-Man was great.

I concur.


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this library is cool

 

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AW SHIEET SON SPACE CHIMPS!

Also what Library sells Marvel Select figures?



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That's a lot of Shrek.. need to combat it with some potent stuff like..

 

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Prepared to take battle with that green ogre!



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Hey

 

F**k off

 

The Spectacular Spider-Man was great.

 

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I actually liked Mystic Force in some ways.

 

The big problem with it was that I didn't give a sh!t about the rangers.

 

And I would like Fury, but uhhhhh Gekiranger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fury.

 

Again I mostly hate the whole SS vs PR thing like most fanboy wars. But Rio and Mele>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jarrod and Camille.

 

The rest I agree with.

 

@Sim You should have used the video version.



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That's a lot of Shrek.. need to combat it with some potent stuff like..

 

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Prepared to take battle with that green ogre!

 

I love Revy's expression there xD

 

@Geth

 

I was a fool. A utter, utter fool :'-(


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I actually liked Mystic Force in some ways.

 

And I would like Fury, but uhhhhh Gekiranger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fury.

Well Mystic Force was also cursed with a terrible rap

(It's actually kinda catchy)

No shut up brain!

 

I heard Gekiranger was good. Sure I would love it if I watched it. But I got alot on my plate as is.



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@Sim Yes.

 

@ClonesLegacy We almost had a better theme. meh

 

When you get the time, watch Gekiranger.

 

It's one of my favorite Sentai shows. Magiranger too.



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This is now a Gintama thread.


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That's a lot of Shrek.. need to combat it with some potent stuff like..

 

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Prepared to take battle with that green ogre!

I don't think Mustang stands a chance, Shrek has too many layers for him to burn through them all fast enough to save himself



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Chris mistook Ruff for someone else? What  nonsense is this!?



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Not everyone can be a person who knows every voice actor ever.

 

Only me.



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Not everyone can be a person who knows every voice actor ever.

 

Only me.

Geth plz


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Loving  the Silver Spoon anime. It's awesome seeing your favourite manga all colourful and animated and sh*t xD