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[Straw Nihilist]

Maybe it might just cover the new stuff. I know it says it's a remake but honestly, this is the only way I can see it not failing miserably. A shame they're going to besmirch such good characters with this. 

[xAmilli0n]

Maybe it might just cover the new stuff. I know it says it's a remake but honestly, this is the only way I can see it not failing miserably. A shame they're going to besmirch such good characters with this. 

 

And according to the persona thread, no Troy Baker to play Kanji =

[Straw Nihilist]

Yeah, Troy Baker is done playing Kanji. It's the same for Persona Q and ultimax arena I believe. This bothers me much more than it should. :l 

[Mr.House]

The only hope for Golden is if it has a second season. I already did the math in the Persona thread. One rescue would have to be one full episode. That's six right here. The intro it self with Chie's shadow would be two episodes. That's already 8.Then there's December 3rd and the things that happen after. That right there would be three episodes, that's 11. Then the true ending that would need to be two(P4 anime one episode was not enough) We are already past 12 episodes and I have not even added the golden content....

[TheChris92]

Can't really say if he's gonna play Kanji or not in the Golden Animation since it won't get a dub.. at least not for now.

We know he won't be Kanji in Ultimax or Q though. It's just enough proof that Atlus needs to move on from Persona 4 before they completely mess up the consistency

[Mr.House]

Can't really say if he's gonna play Kanji or not in the Golden Animation since it won't get a dub.. at least not for now.

We know he won't be Kanji in Ultimax or Q though. It's just enough proof that Atlus needs to move on from Persona 3 and 4 before they completely mess up the consistency

Added another number for you.

[Straw Nihilist]

Yeah, there definitely has to be a second (and maybe third) season. Otherwise this is going to be worse case of 'dropping the ball' than Brazil today... okay not quite, but you get the picture. 

 

Yu better romance Naoto this time around :l That **** is cannon. 

[TheChris92]

Well yeah, they need to move on from that one too but I'd say Persona 4 is the larger issue at hand -- Persona 3 is not at the disadvantage point of losing any of the old voices either, with the exception of Theodore.

[xAmilli0n]

Can't really say if he's gonna play Kanji or not in the Golden Animation since it won't get a dub.. at least not for now.

We know he won't be Kanji in Ultimax or Q though. It's just enough proof that Atlus needs to move on from Persona 4 before they completely mess up the consistency

 

That's what I meant.  mixed things up.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Finally watched Ghost in the Shell.

 

As expected, the animation is superb, the atmosphere spot on. Alas, these kinds of stories just don't resonate much with me.

Still, good stuff. Easy to see why it's considred a great classic.

[xAmilli0n]

Finally watched Ghost in the Shell.

 

As expected, the animation is superb, the atmosphere spot on. Alas, these kinds of stories just don't resonate much with me.

Still, good stuff. Easy to see why it's considred a great classic.

 

Are you talking about the 1995 movie?  Yeah, its definitely worthy of the praise it gets.  Its one of my favorites.

[The King of Dust]

I've only watched 3 of Mamoru Oshii's movies (GitS, GitS2:Innocence & Angel's Egg). Can't say I'm a huge fan, but he does seen to have a knack for nailing atmosphere and creating some really powerful scenes that stick with you.

I'd probably never recommend Angel's Egg to anyone unless they were really into symbolism and philosophy, and I'll probably never rewatch that movie, but it's going to be burned in my brain forever and I definetly don't regret watching it.

Modifié par The King of Dust, 09 juillet 2014 - 01:40 .

[Seraphim24]

Hmm thanks for the responses people for the KLK AOT SAO question. I'm sensing a lot of diversity but people seemed to agree the first arc of SAO and at least a few characters and specific elements of KLK were pretty strong.

 

I guess maybe I'll try KLK, but who knows maybe I'll try the others eventually. Basically I saw a lot of fan art for each of those anime at Anime Expo so I felt like I was missing something in one or all of them. 

 

Also for people who have not seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica I liked it more than probably Evangelion so that's my take. 

[Dean_the_Young]

I enjoyed the ending to PMMM and Rebellion *flees*

I can forgive PMMM, since MAGIC, but Rebellion?

 

Didn't even the developer more or less apologize for how that turned out, since the change in timespot meant he was forced to rewrite the entire first quarter of the season to re-introduce everything again? Then there was the general collapse of the mecha combat factor as they went from 'those cool rollar skating robots' to 'the flying robots who pull out a new weapon every episode to win the battle', until the very last battle.

 

Nah. The last few episodes were a return to the original foundation, but as far as I'm concerned Code Geass is a one season show. The first, and only, season.

[Dean_the_Young]

Hmm thanks for the responses people for the KLK AOT SAO question. I'm sensing a lot of diversity but people seemed to agree the first arc of SAO and at least a few characters and specific elements of KLK were pretty strong.

 

I guess maybe I'll try KLK, but who knows maybe I'll try the others eventually. Basically I saw a lot of fan art for each of those anime at Anime Expo so I felt like I was missing something in one or all of them. 

 

Also for people who have not seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica I liked it more than probably Evangelion so that's my take. 

SAO's first arc is a sort of cheesy but interesting 'what if people get stuck in a video game' scenario, with a decent and plausible romance arc (surrounded by the main character having women throw themselves at him). The second arc, meh. It was pretty much an excuse to return to a fantasy video game with swords, but now it's the sister being another admirer both IRL and in the virtual world. I'm not even bothering with the new season, considering it just plain doesn't give a **** and is giving everyone badass guns.

 

KLK, though- that's an experience in absurdity. It makes no sense at all on a visual level, and goes through every effort not to, but that's how the ends up rolling. It doesn't quite have the power of Gurren Lagann's drill metaphor for progression, but there's a surprisingly deep theme about clothes and identity behind the mass craziness.

[xAmilli0n]

So, I finished watching Evangelion.  Time for some impressions!  I'll try and keep this short.

 

Spoiler

 

Lets start with the good.  I think the show is a very interesting deconstruction of the genre, really emphasizing how f*cuked up it would be to put kids into robots and tell them to save the world.  I dig it.  I also liked how it analyzed how screwed up characters would have to be to end up how they did.  Asuka's entire arc in particular really resonated with me.  It was probably my favorite part.

 

Aside from that I though the show really picked up from episodes 15-24, and that the transition from standard mecha anime to super depressing deconstruction was actually handled pretty well.  No real complaints.

 

Okay and now the bad:  WTF happened with episodes 25 and 26?  I literally laughed out loud at how preposterous the ending turned out to be.  Hell, I even hesitate to even call it an ending since nothing actually got resolved.  Here is my problem with it.  I get what the director was trying to do, and actually as standalone episodes, they work fine.  But they had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in episode 24 and earlier.  It pretty much, goes "24 episodes of story and well thought out mecha genre deconstruction, 2 episodes of existential crisis."  Nothing is resolved.  Though I guess at the end Shinji finally gets everyone's praise...

 

In short, it was a complete failure.  But still, a very interesting one at that.

 

 

 

Spoiler free conclusion: Eva is a good series that explores some very good ideas, and deconstructs the mecha genre and certain character archetypes very well.  Most of the complaints I had heard (especially about Shinji) really have no foundation.  However, in the end its fails because of a complete lack of focus and cohesion between the start of the series and end.  Coupled with a frankly laughable ending, I can't think of Eva as anything more than an interesting failure.

 

7/10 simply because the parts I liked, I liked quite a bit.

 

In comparison to the Rebuilds, outside of a few specific episodes or character arcs, I see no real need for the series.  The Rebuilds are more focus and coherent, and while it doesn't put as much emphasis on the level of analysis into the characters psyche, that's because its telling a different story, and I think they are doing a much better job at it.

 

/opinion

 

I'll watch End of Evangelion soon.

 

EDIT:

 

Forgot to mention

 

Spoiler

The highschool AU thing that happens during Shinji's musing on human nature was pretty awesome

 

 

I can forgive PMMM, since MAGIC, but Rebellion?

 

I liked Rebellion's ending.  I thought it was pretty perfect.  What did you dislike about both?

[Khayness]

Perharps it's because I watched End of Evangelion immediately after finishing the series, but I've never considered the two apart. Much like Firefly and Serenity.

[CrazyRah]

What else would you expect from me?

 

I would be very scared if my bro did anything else. Glad to know my bro is still himself! 

[CrazyRah]

Since i wrote a smaller novel about ONE part of The Rebellion Story's ending i'd say it's safe to say that i adored the ending itself immensly and that it really did so many things so very right for me that it might be one of the more approved endings with me. Could it be better? everything can in some way but i personally can't point out anything that i would change or remove.

[Liamv2]

While I personally thought the originals ending was kinda average. Mainly because it left so many things unanswered and kinda rushed through things however I loved rebellions. Well I hated what happened but loved it as well.

Spoiler

Poor Homura so matter how hard she tries she will never find the happiness she deserves.

[xAmilli0n]

Perharps it's because I watched End of Evangelion immediately after finishing the series, but I've never considered the two apart. Much like Firefly and Serenity.

 

Maybe it will work for me better once I've seen EoE, but I intentionally wanted to watch and consider each thing separately, using the Rebuilds as my baseline.

[Khayness]

using the Rebuilds as my baseline.

 

Well that's interesting. I've watched the series like a decade ago and didn't see the remakes yet since they aren't all out, but watching the remakes first feels weird to me. Guess that's why I'm not into comics, if I'm super OCD about something, then it is about continuity order. I know the Rebuilds aren't sequels, but since it is NGE done properly with a mentally healthy director and proper budget this time around, comparisons are bound to arise.

 

It's the what will you show your kids first, The original Star Wars trillogy or the Prequel Trillogy dilemma.