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I think I have made a terrible mistake.

 

I... I've started watching Gintama. I'm at episode 8. I was expecting something mindless. Instead there may be characterization beyond cheap laughs.

 

Maybe I should try to restrict myself to one a day? That'd keep me going till next year.



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Norio Wakamoto>everyone else.



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So I watched the first episode of Fate/Zero and I haven't had a boner like that since KissxSis xD that was f*cking awesome for an introduction.

 

@Bro Black Lagoon has a great dub, and CG has an even better one. I'd go as far as to say that Code Geass' dub in some areas is better than FMAB's.

 

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Didn't like how Schneizel handled that. I saw him as a bloody brilliant character before that. But his methods there were just dumb and made him seem the 'evil dude' just to make Lelouch look better.

 

I always knew he was cunning, pragmatic etc... but there's SMART pragmatic and then there's Hitler.



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I think I have made a terrible mistake.

 

I... I've started watching Gintama. I'm at episode 8. I was expecting something mindless. Instead there may be characterization beyond cheap laughs.

 

Maybe I should try to restrict myself to one a day? That'd keep me going till next year.

 

The first dozen episodes were like introductions as I remember. I don't have the first season with me here but I think after episode 15 it becomes a pack of 1 or 2 episodes stories, and there will be a few 3-6 episode arcs afterwards.

 

I only may watch these arcs in a day. Other than them I watch the routine 1-2 episodes in a day.



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I think I have made a terrible mistake.

 

I... I've started watching Gintama. I'm at episode 8. I was expecting something mindless. Instead there may be characterization beyond cheap laughs.

 

Maybe I should try to restrict myself to one a day? That'd keep me going till next year.

 

There's characterisation sure, and as for development... it's there, but it's slow.

 

Gintama does this a lot of times. It does a few episodic comedy episodes, then sticks an arc or two in a season which starts as a comedy but quickly turns more into a drama.

 

And Gin-san is a f*cking badass mofo when he wants to. The Benz arc is still my favourite so far.

 

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A ton of great fights, and no, none of that 'stand there and talk for four episodes' sh*t.

 

Speaking of that, I watch Naruto with my buddy on the weekends, and we got to this point where Kakashi and company are fighting vs Zabuza and Haku.

 

What

An

Awful

Fight

 

SIX F*CKING EPISODES IT TOOK.

 

Why can't anime fights be more like Samurai Champloo/Gintama etc... -.- hell, even FMAB had a great mix between choreography and typical anime stuff.

 

P.S

 

I mean look!

 

THIS IS A COMEDY!

 

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JUST LOOK AT THAT AND DROOOOOL!



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Norio Wakamoto>everyone else.

 

Indeed.

 

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Though I prefer Tomokazu Sugita

 

Why?

 

Because he's both of these.

 

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So I watched the first episode of Fate/Zero and I haven't had a boner like that since KissxSis xD that was f*cking awesome for an introduction.

 

@Bro Black Lagoon has a great dub, and CG has an even better one. I'd go as far as to say that Code Geass' dub in some areas is better than FMAB's.

 

@Chris

 

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Didn't like how Schneizel handled that. I saw him as a bloody brilliant character before that. But his methods there were just dumb and made him seem the 'evil dude' just to make Lelouch look better.

 

I always knew he was cunning, pragmatic etc... but there's SMART pragmatic and then there's Hitler.

A fair point -- But from my point of view. A good villain doesn't necessitate someone who is otherwise brilliant, wise or has a point or even being slightly sympathetic in any form. In fact, I despise villains that turn out to be sympathetic for arbitrary reasons. A good villain is someone who is intimidating, poses a great threat, a firm believer in his own ideals with utmost determination and will not falter from this by any means necessary. He doesn't have to be a chess master or present himself as an equal to the protagonist, in fact usually it's interesting to see villains that reflect what the protagonist could have become had he been like this -- It's fine if certain traits can be tracked back to the hero that seeks to conquer the evil. I believe parts of Schneizel aspired to an image of an extremist Lelouch, had he not rebelled against his father to some degree at least. I think that's the reason why I liked him.



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The problem was for me that it was inconsistent. Prior to that Sncheizel always struck me as a man with a good sense of political acumen. Genocide isn't a choice anyone should make pragmatically, even when considering the setting. Perhaps in medieval England it might have worked, but even then... no, just no. You destroy your capital, run the risk of losing the trust of your vassals and create a sh*t ton of unemployment and debt. Perhaps he could have afforded it, but if word slipped out if he did that, the other lords would have had his head in an instant. I still love Blondie (sorry, but his name is a b*tch to type) but that particular moment still vexes me to no end.

 

It also seemed that Blondie was aware of this. He adopted a more social policy to his rule, else he would never have consented to Euphy's idea. Of course, I don't think he cared for their rights and what not, but knew the situation in Japan was far too unstable and needed a touch of socialist methodology to ease them. It also killed two birds with one stone, destroying Lelouch's rebellion, well... it's reason for being anyway, which is why it started in the first place. Rebels without ideals aren't freedom fighters to the eye of the oppressed, they're terrorists.



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He came off as somewhat caring for his closer family at first but I suppose it was just a ruse all along -- He reminds me a lot of Hot Coldman from Metal Gear: Peace Walker, whose idea of promoting nuclear deterrence, and bringing about absolute peace to the world, is through nuclear fire. It's such an incredibly infuriating paradox that ultimately damages any previous credit as a villain he might have had. 

 

But ultimately it doesn't have to be a flaw for the character design because it's all dependent upon the execution. War and conflict is firmly implanted within human nature -- it's an animal instinct that compels humanity to wage war for trivialities or ending wars through atrocious means like the Second World War. 

I think in the end Schneizel represented this image -- the image that Lelouch could have become, the image that thrives upon war and see it as a means to an end. War has become a business, an economy, winning wars will reave rewards for the victor and thus the concept becomes ever more appetizing for some humans.

 

I haven't seen Code Geass in a while but I feel that's the kind of person Schneizel is at the end of it all.



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If that was his character, then he might have ended Lelouch ages ago and reaped the benefits then.

 

No.

 

I'm wrong about that.

 

And you might be right.

 

Consider the two of them during the talks in China. Both, pragmatic individuals, had EVERY chance to take out the other. The laws, of course, denied them that, but why would Blondie consent to laws of a state he intends to invade later on? The threat is there, and there a 1000 different ways to remove it.

 

The same goes for Lelouch minus the consent. He, at the time, was going to unite the world through his rebellion, so there was a need for him to do this. But then again, his coup of the Federation totally negates that point.

 

And so... perhaps they both wanted to continue fighting, in their own warped way. It's perfectly introduced through the chess game. Both have the chance for a checkmate, but they refuse to do so.

 

And saying all that...

 

I need to watch CG again too xD


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Having said that -- TFS just did An Abridge of their Abridge again. This time the whole Namek thing in less than 7 minutes. They keep getting better and better

 



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OOOOH

 

Speaking of DBZ.

 

I said before that I'm watching Naruto weekly with my friend and explaining just how god awful those early fights were. I mean SIX episodes to fight Zabuza and Haku just because they wanted to cramp in a sh*t ton of exposition/development? There's a time and place to do that in a narrative, and it's not during battle.

 

I was just wondering... does DBZ have that crap too?



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OOOOH

 

Speaking of DBZ.

 

I said before that I'm watching Naruto weekly with my friend and explaining just how god awful those early fights were. I mean SIX episodes to fight Zabuza and Haku just because they wanted to cramp in a sh*t ton of exposition/development? There's a time and place to do that in a narrative, and it's not during battle.

 

I was just wondering... does DBZ have that crap too?

Really, really, long fights? Yes.

 

I honestly prefer One Piece since the action doesn't postpone over 4 episodes, especially not the pre-fighting sequences, where the two fighters just stand opposite each other waiting for someone to do something. But I've already talked a bit about my love for that show. :)



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I might postpone my DBZ watch for longer then. If there's anything I detest it's that. I don't mind it for a bit, like talk, fight, talk and end. But I hate talk, fight for two seconds, talk for thirty minutes, episode ends with the dude saying "I'll finish this now" then fight for another three seconds and talk another hour...

 

It's horrible, agonising to watch.

 

Not because I dislike talking. Don't get me wrong. But like I said, there's a time and place for everything.



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Some new (I think) footage of the Fate/Stay Night remake. Goddamn, it looks good.

Jesus Christ, it looks freakin awesome.



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So I watched the first episode of Fate/Zero and I haven't had a boner like that since KissxSis xD that was f*cking awesome for an introduction.

Yesssssssssss, such a good anime.



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PEOPLE DIE IF THEY ARE KILLED!



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PEOPLE DIE IF THEY ARE KILLED!

*slams head repeatedly on desk*

 

We do not speak of that...abomination.


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I might postpone my DBZ watch for longer then. If there's anything I detest it's that. I don't mind it for a bit, like talk, fight, talk and end. But I hate talk, fight for two seconds, talk for thirty minutes, episode ends with the dude saying "I'll finish this now" then fight for another three seconds and talk another hour...

 

It's horrible, agonising to watch.

 

Not because I dislike talking. Don't get me wrong. But like I said, there's a time and place for everything.

Give One Piece a shot some time, dude -- It's the kind of show you can watch and put away for a bit, given its gigantic length, then return back to it again. A show that is compromised of thousands of different tales and adventures, which the main pirate characters go on, where some of them are major arcs that exist to move certain plot points forward but not really anything overly coherent which is fine with me. In that respect it reminds me of Bebop, where the focus is the characters and the adventure and not so much an important goal they need to reach. Each character has a dream they want to fulfill and its what compels them to travel together and cooperatively seek out these dreams together. There's also a lot of emotional content in its characters backstories, and each character feel unique  with their own pros and cons, perhaps duality is the right word to describe the various characters, from various factions, with various beliefs, hopes and dreams, but also their distinct designs, not to mention the immense lore and mystery that is buried within its world.

 

Overall, I'd say One Piece is fun because it's an enjoyable never-ending story you can always boot up when you haven't gotten anything else on the agenda.


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I might postpone my DBZ watch for longer then. If there's anything I detest it's that. I don't mind it for a bit, like talk, fight, talk and end. But I hate talk, fight for two seconds, talk for thirty minutes, episode ends with the dude saying "I'll finish this now" then fight for another three seconds and talk another hour...

 

It's horrible, agonising to watch.

 

Not because I dislike talking. Don't get me wrong. But like I said, there's a time and place for everything.

 

Well... there is always Kai.

 

*runs away*



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*slams head repeatedly on desk*

 

We do not speak of that...abomination.

The funny thing is that the line itself, in actuality, is an idiom to summarize the incredible strength of absurdly tough enemies. As is the case of when other characters have uttered it like Shizuo from Durarara!! And apparently characters of Kill La Kill and Attack on Titan (Lol that title is still funny) have their own way of phrasing it

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In the case of Fate/Stay Night it comes off as being an example of the main character being not just passionately naiv but also painfully thick.

In that respect, he loses all credibility he might otherwise have had, heh.


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I thought it was just an easily clownable translation of "people who die should stay dead," which isn't really that dumb of a statement.

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Fate/Stay Night; glad I dodged that bullet.



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They're also making a movie which is based off the Heavens Feel route. So. Fricking. Awesome.

 

I can't wait for October.



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Give One Piece a shot some time, dude -- It's the kind of show you can watch and put away for a bit, given its gigantic length, then return back to it again. A show that is compromised of thousands of different tales and adventures, which the main pirate characters go on, where some of them are major arcs that exist to move certain plot points forward but not really anything overly coherent which is fine with me. In that respect it reminds me of Bebop, where the focus is the characters and the adventure and not so much an important goal they need to reach. Each character has a dream they want to fulfill and its what compels them to travel together and cooperatively seek out these dreams together. There's also a lot of emotional content in its characters backstories, and each character feel unique  with their own pros and cons, perhaps duality is the right word to describe the various characters, from various factions, with various beliefs, hopes and dreams, but also their distinct designs, not to mention the immense lore and mystery that is buried within its world.

 

Overall, I'd say One Piece is fun because it's an enjoyable never-ending story you can always boot up when you haven't gotten anything else on the agenda.

This but read the manga.

 

For me it's good enough to be a main thing of my weekly read schedule. And I am a little hesitant to call it never-ending when I know the ending is going to be in 10ish years what with it being past the half way point now. Also Oda said so. I will call Sazae-san never-ending tho because it is never ending. lol

 

But I can agree breaks help. Like for some people who like to wait for a ton new chapters or a whole arc to go by before reading them all at once. For me tho I take a break from OP when I want to haha reread my OP volumes.