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It leaves it open for Fate/Stay. They're remaking Fate/Stay later on this year so I'd just wait on that Sim and cross your fingers and hope it's better then the original one was.

 

Ah, all right, cool. I enjoyed the first season a lot. It's not my FAVOURITE thing in the world, but I really like it, so I'm hoping for a good remake then (that is, if the second season is as good as the first.)



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So finished S1 of Fate/Zero, liked it alot. Gonna head straight to S2. Does the 'Zero' story finish up nicely, or will I have to watch the rest? Thing is, from what I'm hearing...

 

Yeah, you guys are putting me off the Fate series xD

 

Overall, I'd say Fate/Stay is inferior to Zero in pretty much every way. It's an older style of animation, it devolves into your very typical anime jokes/drama, and the main character has a bad habit of collecting female characters who live in his house for some inexplicable reason.

 

That said, it's still alot of fun. I think it's clear that, even if they're very different, the creators of Fate/Zero do have an appreciation for Fate/Stay Night, which is why they spent so much effort making the stories synch up with each other. Luckily, the remake of Fate/Stay is due out in October, and looks to be more in the style of Fate/Zero, so in your case I would finish Zero and just wait the time out (imo). 



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I have been watching the new season of SAO, and I must say the gender bending thing they did is a little wierd. Overall, it looks like it's going to be a decent season. Also, anyone know when No Game No Life is coming back?



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I watched the first episode of the Persona 4 Golden or w.e

I had no idea what was happening and I'm not sure if it was worth continuing with, but judging from what I've heard here I guess not.

 

Persona 4 Golden is basically the animation of the Golden extra scenes. It assumes you're already quite familiar with the story already, as it focuses almost entirely on the new content of Golden rather than the baseline story.

 

At the very least, you should watch Persona 4 (the anime) to understand the story, and then realize that Golden is just the New Game + version of that.
 



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If things where not being skipped and she was not being shoehorned into events she was never part of in golden(Beach and fireworks) and it did not feel like This is Marie, love, LOVE HER!

 

 

Golden is really just the anime take on Golden's content, mixed with that max-attribute playthrough. It's about as literalist as P4A was to the game. Remember how they shoehorned the various social links into the summer arc?

 

Not that I disagree about how heavy the emphasis on Marie is. Fortunately you can just ignore her in general in the game.

 

Come to think of it, I actually didn't like a number of the Golden additions. Some were great, like the ski trip, but others... a lot of the characters felt more like charicatures. Especially that epilogue addition, which felt... well, almost like they missed or forgot the various character arcs in some forced attempt of symbolism.



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You pretty much have too, or at least play the game then watch golden. Anyone who has no knowledge of P4 will be completely lost if they watch golden.

 

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On the plus side, the next time someone on the forum complains that their favorite franchise is being wattered down for noobs and new arrivals, and that Bioware should only cater to fans who already understand what's going on...

 

...you can point them to this.



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Agreed on all accounts.

The Harem roots can be clearly felt and that is a BAD thing.

Also, the entire series suffers from an over-reliance on a few characters, to the point they are showing them in everywhere. I mean, half the servants were in the Prequel? What? They got no recollection of fighting before? Why the same? Why even a prequel?

At some points it feels as if the series is ripping itself off.

 

Also, is that Iliya becomes an Archer copy thing for reals?

 

The only proper servant in Stay Night also in Fate/Zero is

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The rest of the servants are different from their Fate Zero counterparts.

 

It's a spin-off magical girl series, I think. Still kinda weird.



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Ah, all right, cool. I enjoyed the first season a lot. It's not my FAVOURITE thing in the world, but I really like it, so I'm hoping for a good remake then (that is, if the second season is as good as the first.)

 

Second season is just as good, things really start to escalate from the point you're at. 

 

What did you think of the Rin episode? 



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I have been watching the new season of SAO, and I must say the gender bending thing they did is a little wierd. Overall, it looks like it's going to be a decent season. Also, anyone know when No Game No Life is coming back?

 

No news as far as I know.

 

 

 

Though apparently Terra Formars and Seven Deadly Sins are both getting an anime this October.



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No news as far as I know.

 

 

 

Though apparently Terra Formars and Seven Deadly Sins are both getting an anime this October.

 

Interesting. I am going to have to check them out when they air.



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Seems the trend of disappointing animes that held promise continue to happen for me, such a shame too, was really hoping Tokyo ghoul would be great liek the manga. *sigh*



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Seems the trend of disappointing animes that held promise continue to happen for me, such a shame too, was really hoping Tokyo ghoul would be great liek the manga. *sigh*

 

I don't know that one. I have been thinking about reading Akame ga kill since the show is still new. It will give me some time to see what will happen in it.



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Seems the trend of disappointing animes that held promise continue to happen for me, such a shame too, was really hoping Tokyo ghoul would be great liek the manga. *sigh*

Damn. Is it falling flat?



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Golden is really just the anime take on Golden's content, mixed with that max-attribute playthrough. It's about as literalist as P4A was to the game. Remember how they shoehorned the various social links into the summer arc?

 

Not that I disagree about how heavy the emphasis on Marie is. Fortunately you can just ignore her in general in the game.

 

Come to think of it, I actually didn't like a number of the Golden additions. Some were great, like the ski trip, but others... a lot of the characters felt more like charicatures. Especially that epilogue addition, which felt... well, almost like they missed or forgot the various character arcs in some forced attempt of symbolism.

 

Thing is, I liked alot of the new stuff in Golden, heck I didn't even mind Marie. But this anime is just pushing it to the limits with shoehornign her into goddam everything. The point of the beach trip was to unwind and relax with your new group of friends and take it easy(because lord knows it, they deserve it), Marie however ruins that feelings with her being part of it (same with the firework scene) Again this was a tender close moment for Yu with his close friends, uncle and cousin. The scene however loses that focus and becomes focused entirely on her.  This is my issue The new events that where in golden that brought in more itme with Yu and his school friends are being turned into Marie events.

 

 


 



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I liked the first few episodes, but the last one felt pretty rushed even if you don't read the manga. Apparently they skipped a ton of chapters and also some important development in the chapters they did cover. That's leaving aside the gratuitous censorship, though I don't really blame them for that per se, if that's the rules for whatever they're broadcasting with. Still degrades the experience, though.



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Damn. Is it falling flat?

The whole first arc with the doves was outright skipped and we're at the gourmet ghoul already :/



#17017
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I liked the first few episodes, but the last one felt pretty rushed even if you don't read the manga. Apparently they skipped a ton of chapters and also some important development in the chapters they did cover.

They skipped a whole dam arc.Heck he still hasn't got his badass mask yet and he's already met the gourmet? WTF



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The whole first arc with the doves was outright skipped and we're at the gourmet ghoul already :/

Good grief. Well ****. I was looking forward to starting the anime this weekend.



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Now why would you play through with a guide first? :(

 

Messing everything up big time is fun.

My first playthrough, I avoided the spoilers about the murderer and actually got the Bad End.

 

Not the 'I don't know who the murderer is' Bad End, but the 'your little sister is dead, and the kidnapper is probably going to escape justice if you don't take it into your own hands. What do you do?' bad end.

 

It was epic and depressing and fitting as hell. I was aware of the New Game + function, so after realizing I had no chance at maxing the social links I ended up focusing on maxing my stats and finishing a few of the social links instead. After ignoring/not having the stats to complete them, I basically raced to finish the Nanako and Dojima arcs as fast as I could, which were definitely some of the most touching and emotional character arcs I've had in some time.

 

I actually finished both of them the week before the kidnapping, to the point that on one of the last nights I had one of those rare moments in which Nanako and Dojima are both home at the same time. At some point along the way I was head-canoning that Souji was pretty distant and adrift without a sense of his own family, and so after Nanako's arc and the bit about both her and the PC finding a sibling, and Dojima's conclusion about how they're all a 'real' family, it was a heart-touching moment of the family all together. Then there was the school festival and family involvement, and then...

 

Man, I've never been so emotionally invested in a Bioware game as I was in the climb through Heaven. I nearly bankrupted myself paying the fox to restore my magic rather than rest for the night, and it was an extremely uphill fight to beat the boss. Nanako was rescued, and in the hospital...

 

The next, last weeks passed in a daze. Every chance I had, I went to the hospital. I powered through the Sayoko social link on the basis of justifying visiting Nanako during the night shift. I found a co-miserator in Yumi, who was also going through the slow motion destruction of her family in the same hospital, and her misery just made the whole thing even more depressing.

 

And then... then...

 

It... it can't be true. It can't be. He...

 

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE METAGAMING. I DIDN'T CARE THAT I HAD 30 MORE LEVELS TO MAX. I DIDN'T CARE THAT THERE WERE ANOTHER THREE MONTHS IN THE GAME. I DIDN'T CARE THAT I KNEW THERE WAS A CHRISTMAS EVENT. I DIDN'T CARE THAT HE CLAIMED TO NOT KNOW. I DIDN'T  CARE ABOUT THE DISREPRENCIES. I DIDN'T CARE I DIDN'T CARE I DIDN'T CARE. THERE IS ONLY FOG AND IT WILL BE RED!

 

HE KILLED NANAKO

 

HE KILLED NANAKO

 

he killed nanako

 

he killed nanako

 

 

And so Nanako died. Retribution was metted out. The Truth was lost.

 

Time flew past, but nothing was remembered. Nothing was worth remembering. Dojima looked like how I felt. Devestated. Defeated. No longer caring what happened to the world. There was nothing worthwhile left in it.

 

So I got on the train, left miserable backwoods Inaba, and closed my eyes...

 

[Would you like to play a New Game +? All your experience will be carried over.]

 

... and woke up once the train to Inaba, where I was to spend the next year. It was surreal, a sense of deja vu you can't shake or avoid. I thought it was a dream, a memory. I was a passenger in my own body, barely able to escape the tracks of fate as history repeated itself. The announcer died. Saki Konishi died. Chie nearly died.

 

 

But Nanako wouldn't die. Not this time. This time would be different.

 

THIS TIME I WILL SAVE NANAKO.

 

Even if I have to struggle through this mystery a thousand times in a thousand different lives, reliving this same year each time.

 

This is my New Game +.

 

 

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And that, my friends, is how you role play New Game + into a JRPG like Persona 4. I did every possible bad ending before allowing myself to get the True End.

 

I actually head-canoned a dark fanfic based on the above, in which New Game + was sort of a ground hog's day loop in which Souji is stuck repeating the year until he can win. Except that failure is a lot easier, insanity difficulty hard, and Souji's approaching an event horizon because no matter how many times he's tried and failed, he has yet to save Nanako. So he tries to game the system, and everything starts off great but goes to hell.



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Four episodes, already at the gourmet, he still does not have his mask, he is just starting his training now, the first confrontation with the doves was outright skipped and relationships are being glossed over. This is just a big trainwreak.



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I do agree with pud, the first two episodes where very good and so promising. I don't know what happen :(



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Hmm I guess I should just read the manga, unless they can recover by adding that content back in, out-of-order though.

 

My first playthrough, I avoided the spoilers about the murderer and actually got the Bad End.

 

Not the 'I don't know who the murderer is' Bad End, but the

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Aw hell naw. I'm guiding the hell out of that.


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Hmm I guess I should just read the manga, unless they can recover by adding that content back in, out-of-order though.

 

 

Aw hell naw. I'm guiding the hell out of that.

 

Join the Dark Side. We have Angst!



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Join the Dark Side. We have Angst!

My friend trolled me and showed me what happens if you don't complete a certain dungeon by December 24th. That was too evil.



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Anyways about Tokyo ghoul, they might be able to do some of this stuff later, but something very important has already been ignored which means stuff will change big time.

 

Manga spoilers, don't read

 

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