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[TheChris92]

It doesn't mean I can't re-watch it and appreciate it in the future xD

 

In the end I've always blamed myself for expecting something else. I've never thought that Paranoia Agent was bad at all.

 

As for anime that might catch your eye...

 

Have you watched Shinsekai Yori yet?

 

I think that's one definitely for you.

 

Ooooh, films :-/

 

Yikes. I can't do them unless they're at least 2 hours long or some extension of a series.

 

For me they go way to fast. I'm starting to like a character then BAM, the credits roll. 

 

That's what I get for watching tons of series and anime. Last series I watched proper was Bones and Breaking Bad. Well... GoT, but that's like obligatory watching for me since I'm a huuuuuuuuuuge ASOIAF nut. Even if some parts are 'meh' compared to the books, it's still gorgeous.

 

Breaking Bad tho'

 

 

Want to get around to Vikings... and what the hell am I talking about again?

 

Oh yeah, Shinsekai Yori. I think you'll enjoy that one.

If one has watched Breaking Bad, then it's an obligatorigal duty to watch The Sopranos or The Wire.

 

If you want some suggestions of excellent movies that derive away from the Hollywood tropes and instead seek to strive for deep and compelling storytelling devices. I'd be happy to oblige with some.

 

As for anime -- The thing with anime is that I find it difficult to get into some because usually they don't have what I'm looking for in an anime.

I'm finding time to get into Count of Monte Cristo, which is looking very promising now though. There's also an OVA, only high school boy and his girlfriend who's been called into an intergalactic war in space -- It elaborates on the effects of such a long-term relationship, where the premise itself is sort of overly-eerie-fantastical, I think it's acceptable because it drives the plot quite neatly, which in of itself is what I believe is among the most important things about a show's premise/setting.

[CrazyRah]

I'm...

 

I'm reliable?

 

 

 

^___^

[TheChris92]

Which is why I think Shinsekai Yori is for you. Or perhaps even better, Serial Experiments Lain.
 
Look, I can't be you and explain it properly. My analysis skills are subconscious at best, meaning, I kind of know when stuff is deep but can't get out the right words to say it and when I do it all comes out as an incoherent mess. But yeah, I'd really say give that a go. If I were thick as a castle wall I would have shat on Paranoia Agent calling it pretentious and out of this world, but far from it, I admit that I lost the message completely due to looking the opposite direction xD

I appreciate that -- But it's no secret that some people might not like stories, animes or games for the same reason I do. A good example could be Evangelion or Metal Gear Solid 2. Both of them try to do similar things with their respective genres, both are drenched in post modernism, and as a result, a lot of the story is derived into symbolism, metaphors, underlying themes and subtext. This is what usually labels stuff to be pretentious to people -- In the cinema world, I know director Lars Von Trier usually is labelled as pretentious with his otherwise excellent artfilms, in my opinion of course, and insistence on not using aritifical aids, like special effects or any of that to convey the story he wants to tell. In the world of cinema -- This film-making method is called Dogme 95.
 
But anyway, back to anime -- I'm gonna try to post my thoughts on the recent stuff I've seen soon. The OVA should be a no-brainer since it's only 25 minutes. That one will be first, then of course I'll promise to do that Bebop analysis.
Going to spoiler tag the next bit so as not to derail too much.
 

Spoiler

As for the Sopranos. I have watched the first season and I loved it. Too bad I know it ends really dodgy, but I will give it a full run. As for the Wire, I haven't. I love all kinds of politics, even if its gang related (which is why the Godfather is diadjaidauaufhapufbaub.)

The cool thing about Sorpranos is that much like Breaking Bad -- It's not so much about the pretty girls, fast cars, money, and all the goods that come with narratives revolving around , and not even the usual demonizing of organized crime with the labelled message that "crime does not pay" signature.
It's about painting a picture of a seemingly ordinary man who's transformed and molded by the criminal underworld, and at the same time he has to keep up with being just a regular family man, who look out for his loved ones. In Sopranos' case it humanizes these people, it doesn't condone their actions, nor does it judge, but rather it engages these characters through the use of careful analysis, placing them into a perspective we can sympathize with -- They are imperfect beings who strive to do good, like ourselves, but it isn't always easy to be kind and helpful to all the people meet. it also explores the inner psyche on its main character and how he feels about what he's doing, whether it's something he actually wants to escape, or whether it's part of him. I think the high points of Sopranos are the psychiatrist appointments, where you really get into the head of this criminal mobster head figure protagonist, Tony Soprano. It's where the surreal, almost David Lynch-like sections come into play, where you really get to see what makes Sopranos stick out from the rest and get a deeper understanding of the show's characters.
Walter White is an ordinary man who embraces the darkness, whereas Tony Soprano is a man who was born and raised in the dark, trying to escape into the light. That's where the similiarities end I'd say.

 

And I'd be interested in those films because so far, the only films I've watched (non-anime) and enjoyed was the Desolation of Smaug (and that's purely because it's based in Middle-Earth) and the LEGO Movie (and that's purely because it's a fantastic comedy with a nice message behind it.) And this is in an entire year.

Certainly, I'll PM some good ones that are worth watching. Probably some TV-shows too!

[TheChris92]

Thanks for that Chris :-)

 

And as for David Lynch.

 

As a Deadly Premonition fanboy who goes around telling people who asks his name that he's Francis York Morgan and you should call him 'York' because everybody else does...

 

I am obliged... no, I am bound by oath of blood and coffee that one day in the near future...

 

I will watch Twin Peaks.

Good, good -- Btw, did you ever play Alan Wake? While the game might not be subtle in any shape or form in regards to the influence of Steven King, there's certainly a lot of Twin Peaks in that one too. But I knew, that if I mentioned Lynch you'd be able to recall York. Agent Cooper's fascination for a good cup of coffee and surreal dream sequences are certainly things they have in common, hehe

[TheChris92]

Yep. I played Alan Wake and I loved it. Yes, you're right, subtlety is not its thing when it comes to King. I mean, jaysus H bloody christ, the entire setting is from a King novel. But they way they dealt with the story was brilliant.

One of the first lines of the game is Wake making a direct reference to Steven King -- It's about as subtlely implemented as a chimpanzee in the back of an old Citroen.

 

I also like how your current avi even looks like a famous shot of Agent Cooper from Twin Peaks, drinking a cup of coffee.

[Hellion Rex]

Just finished Psycho Pass. I can see why some people thought it kinda peaked early, like in episode 15-16, cause god damn those two episodes were brilliant. That being said, I thoroughly enjoyed the series, loved that second opening, and cannot wait for Season 2 to premiere in October.

[CrazyRah]

Probably going with Shinsekai Yori now after Gosick, it's either that one or Nisemonogatori. Both are very tempting and it's more a question of what to watch first of these two. 

[Khayness]

Btw, am I to assume that Evangelion really started the whole 'adult' anime thing. Well... like, Ghost in the Shell etc...

 

Hahaha, hell no. Captain Harlock, Casshern, Golgo 13, etc. are damn old (70's 60's iirc), most contemporary seinens are adapted from older material aswell (like Paprika).

[Khayness]

But so far these last two episodes were a lot 'lighter.' I suppose the heavier stuff will return again later.

 

It falls apart really at the latter part of the second half, when Hideaki Anno started trolling the otaku fandom out of spite.

 

Oh, and the budget ran out. I can't stress that enough. The whole show is like when you halfass a paper due tomorrow, hoping you won't fail, but somehow your teacher finds it extraordinary and gives you an A+ and tells everyone else this is how it's done.

[SlottsMachine]

Just finished Psycho Pass. I can see why some people thought it kinda peaked early, like in episode 15-16, cause god damn those two episodes were brilliant. That being said, I thoroughly enjoyed the series, loved that second opening, and cannot wait for Season 2 to premiere in October.

 

LOL. They definitely were. 

[Mr.House]

Personally, I'm very bias against FMA. I just can't help BUT compare it to the manga and Brotherhood and while I do respect the crew trying to do their own thing, their own thing just does not hold up compared to Hiromu Arakawas work.

[Khayness]

Probably going with Shinsekai Yori now after Gosick, it's either that one or Nisemonogatori. Both are very tempting and it's more a question of what to watch first of these two. 

 

If you record your face while watching the schooltrip episode, go with Shinsekai Yori pretty please.

[Mr.House]

My big issue is the fact that FMA end left too many questions and in order to get them answered you had to watch a godawful movie. Manga/Bortherhood ending did not have this issue.

[Hellion Rex]

Manga/Bortherhood ending did not have this issue.

YES. BROTHERHOOD IS ULTIMATE.