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[Isichar]

Plus chapters are released at a depressingly slow rate.

 

If you think the 1 month wait per SNK chapter is bad you have no idea what it's like to be a fan of Berserk.

 

The people complaining that George R R Martin releases his books to slowly have it pretty damn good compared to a Berserk fan.

[Vroom Vroom]

Dub.

 

And go watch it next. Forget everything and just watch it.

 

Seriously.

 

Cowboy Bebop should be a standard for anybody who watches anime.

 

You just wait 'till he enters that Church.

 

THEN it's when Cowboy Bebop shows its true colours.

Alright, I'll take your advice and put it at the top of the list. I am going to finish Nozaki-kun first though, since I only have four episodes left of it. 

[SlottsMachine]

I mostly agree although I think KLK was just an absurdly entertaining show.

 

I can't figure out for the life of me why Steins;Gate is as well received as it is http://myanimelist.n...253/Steins;Gate  I mean I can see why people like it but how can it make any top 10 list? What specifically did they do that raises them so far above any other story? I have yet to hear anyone actually attempt to go into an in-depth explanation as to what specifically makes it so good but apparently enough people think it is for it to be voted far ahead of just about every other anime made.

 

Don't worry. I don't understand why you guys like After Story so much. 

[Isichar]

Don't worry. I don't understand why you guys like Clannad so much. 

 

1 reason and 1 reason only: The emotions. The stories in emotional animes tend to get more of a pass in those stories since it's not really the focus if you get my meaning. That said Clannad still is full of flaws and silliness, it's just that I can point to moments that had a genuine effect on me which is exactly what I wanted when I picked that anime.

 

Steins;gate is an engaging story but it's not being driven my the emotions enough to justify relying on those. I went into Steins;Gate looking for a good story and it failed in that sense, maybe my focus should have been on something else? I can understand a story being well received even though it has flaws if it pushes the bar of what it is trying to do in some way shape or form and in that sense there's *NOTHING* I felt Steins;Gate did above average other then having an engaging middle.

[SlottsMachine]

Maybe I should have said it differently, I understand the reasons you like it but I do not feel any of that.  

 

@Sim's edit

 

Hey, you do a better job of expressing yourself than I could most of time. 

[Isichar]

Maybe I should have said it differently, I understand the reasons you like it but I do not feel any of that.  

 

Which is completely fair.

 

My thing is I don't even understand why people like Steins;gate *as much as they do* at all. I've seen plenty of reviews raving about how great it is and how it's a masterpiece but I can't say I've heard any reason as to why it would be so highly rated or why it's so great.

[SlottsMachine]

I can understand why you don't like it, and some of your criticism's absolutely have merit. I think its a fool's errand you're on, its not a masterpiece. But what is really when you get down to it. 

 

I did like Ushio though. 

 

[Isichar]

I can understand why you don't like it, and some of your criticism's absolutely have merit. I think its a fool's errand you're on, its not a masterpiece. But what is really when you get down to it. 

 

I did like Ushio though. 

 

 

You're right in that nothing is really a masterpiece (in any other way but subjectively at least). I'm asking why people specifically feel this deserves to be in the top 10 animes list or as highly rated as it is? My line of thinking is that in order for people to like it as much as they have this one there must be some point(s) that they feel justify holding it to such a high regard.

 

All my criticism can be rendered invalid to a person who just doesn't care about the same points I do, and that's fine. I'd still like to know by what standards this can be called a masterpiece though (not saying you called it that, but many have). I don't have to agree with that standard (infact I'm pretty certain I probably wouldn't) but I would still like to understand what that standard actually is. it comes back to what I asked on the last page (I'll repeat it and please understand this is a genuine and serious question) what specifically does steins;gate do that raises it above other animes and other stories of similar genre?

 

It's more important that I understand why someone feels the way they do then it is for me to have to agree with them. 

 

P.S. night Sim

[Isichar]

I was just thinking about Aldnoah again

 

Spoiler

They kept hinting that they were building on something with Inaho and the aldnoah power, but then he got shot in the head. Was that going anywhere? Will he survive with a glowing hole in his head? (lol)

 

Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the first half, Inaho was a huge part of that, so I'm worried for part 2 if he is gone for good. Or if he gets Gai'd.

 

I have a feeling that the next part is going to focus much more heavily on what precisely the Aldnoah power is and how it works. It felt like they purposely were being vague about it.

[Liamv2]

 

I don't know if anyone here has been watching Re:_Hamatora or even watched the first season, but I actually liked it a fair bit more than the first one. Which isn't necessarily saying a lot, but I shouldn't lie too much since I did check out the second season anyway.

 

Basically a superpower anime, but not as obnoxiously ripping off X-men as Tokyo ESP.

 

 

It's been on my list ever since someone said it's like if persona fucked darker than black. 

[Liamv2]

You serious? Don't play with my emotions, those are two of my favorite things!

 

I think it was because of the art style over the story telling. I will say that the opening gives me that sort of feel. What with the glasses and the headphones and such.

[Seraphim24]

what specifically does steins;gate do that raises it above other animes and other stories of similar genre?

 

<Spoilers> I'd still say Moeka, to be honest. Of course, we already talked about that. I think just from your perspective it was about how overwhelmingly fragile and psychotically devoted she was from the downsides, but I think I just looked at those same qualities with some degree of interest and fascination. It's kind of a weird analogy but <spoilers> in Valkyria Chronicles Selvaria was extraordinarily devoted to the emperor Maximillian because he saved her from kind of the.oppression, and she romantically fell for him, such that she ultimately was willing to commit suicide for his cause. It's a kind of devotion that is sort of crazy but also kind of fascinating. I feel like Moeka is in her own whole world, and I'm straining to find her attention but because she is so distant I'm like whoa now I want to now about her even more. There are obvious dangers but also incredible strengths in her character, and there was also a kind of a necessity factor in her case. 

 

I re-watched some random Stein's Gate amv to make sure I still thought it was pretty cool, honestly, it is kind of tame in many ways I think because it's so directly referential to things like memes and cos play, it's artificially been given more credence. I'm sure there are a decent number of actual scientists who are anime fans into Gurren Lagann or something, but this is like they're literally showing scientists doing science things and so they're throwing logic out the window and pinning it as #1. 

 

Overall, I would probably put Stein's Gate around 10-13 or something, not #1. Something like Geass would crush it.

[Khayness]

You serious? Don't play with my emotions, those are two of my favorite things!

 

It's not. Only on paper, not in actual execution. And I wouldn't consider its darker themes to be that dark actually, but that's probably because I've seen too much twisted stuff already.

 

Season 1's villain was stupid and the ending was a massive copout, I've pretty much forgotten about that season 2 is out already, can't say anything about that. Better go check it out soon then.

 

I've read somewhere that its a multimedia project, so the anime continues from the manga, which explains why they are hasty with character introductions and why it is hard to care about them when the story gets going. Now you know.