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[Jerome Jira]

Ok,

Archer >>>>>>> Emiya

Rin >>>>>> Saber

 

Frak that gender-bender cheap shot.

 

I think you meant to quote another poster, bro.

[Saber Wolf]

Ok,

Archer >>>>>>> Emiya

Rin >>>>>> Saber

 

Frak that gender-bender cheap shot.

 

For me it is more like:

 

Saber > Archer

Rin > Shiro

 

I heard Archer was a tool in the anime compared to his role in the Visual Novel and I wouldn't disagree. Hopefully he is better in UBW.

 

 

I like Gilgamesh.

 

But Rider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilgamesh

 

Too true. Tears were shed, man.

[Jerome Jira]

You mean this?

 

I think I had to stop it when I found out that he straight up abandoned the girl for two straight years because 'adventure' even though he had teleportation magic and was actually coming home every night and secretly getting meals from the maid while he hid in a ****** broom closet or something.

 

Yeah, I also found that a complete "WTF!?" but apparently the reason why he does it b/c he feels completely useless since he is only good at fighting and has no knowledge in anything else that Demon King is trying to pursue (farming, politics, economy, etc), so Hero feels that the only thing he can do is fighting against which Demon King sent him to. It is a rather reasonable reason other than simply hiding from her just b/c, but don't really see why he couldn't jump in and say "Hi" from time to time. But then again, he doesn't know her at all, so it works I guess.

 

Oh that's as far as I got. I added a little to my post late to be more specific as to why, lol.

 

I agree about Yuki, though I could handle Shinji well enough too. In a way his is interesting because it's often more like a regression more than the usual growth/coming of age story, but you can totally understand why given the kind of **** he has to deal with. 

 

Well true, it is subjective on what one stomachs. I can understand why, but it just doesn't work for me. 

[Clover Rider]

[Fidite Nemini]

Well, as mentioned, I'm rewatching "Oppai - The Anime" again. It's glorious.

[Isichar]

K.. Isi, when you get here...

 

Explain wtf just happened at the tower.

 

Did you finish the perfect egg arc?

[Ghost Lightning]

Well, as mentioned, I'm rewatching "Oppai - The Anime" again. It's glorious.

 

That could be like 5,000 different shows.

[Isichar]

@ISI!

 

 

 

 

I haven't seen that side of him much, but I wouldn't be surprised. Another flaw that adds to his character. I freakin' love Griffith

 

Fair enough. Because it also seemed he was meant to die (Gatts that is.) However, outside forces did intercept with this plan. However, either way you look at it, the idea works. Intended or not, both sides further strengthen the theme of duality between Gatts and Griffith.

 

I never took his motives as power for power's sake. When I look at Griffith I see a little of Reinhard from LotGH.

 

Both characters share this dream of absolute change, but in order to bring it about, power is needed. Like the Eclipse, power is just a means to an end.

 

However, I've not yet come to what he wants with this dream. Does he seek a better world? Or a utopia meant only for him? Reinhard accomplishes his conquest of the galaxy and reforms it for the better, despite the millions that had to die in the process.

 

But what of Griffith? Coming back to him being 'childish' he didn't really care about the consequences. His choice was given to him but he didn't care. It could be argued that in his state, his mind didn't work as well, but I'd call that BS. He seemed perfectly aware of what was happening and the 'sacrifice' that had to be made.

 

Wrong? Yes, that's complicated.

 

I'm currently (but slowly) reading Game of Thrones and Philosophy. It deals with the books (despite its title) and by god is moral and ethical philosophy simply crazy. I have no idea how people go to university with that in mind. This sh*t is so deep, you could bury India in it.

 

There is simply so many points of views to look at we could be here for a 100 pages discussing whether Griffith was making a moral choice or not. Is the long term better than the short term consequences? Is Griffith's dream really worth human life? How much is human life worth?

 

Breaking down these issues and addressing them individually is not a task I could complete xD

 

Gatts reminds me so much of Geralt of Rivia it's not even funny. But there's something more to him that makes him that bit more tragic.

 

Chris once gave me a parallel between Breaking Bad and the Sopranos. How one is about a man heading from light to darkness and the other of a man trying to leave the darkness to turn to light.

 

Gatts really seems to be a man struggling with both. Obviously he is disturbed mentally, it's evident in almost everything the art represents. His blood-lust, his love to kill... but then again, he's a good man who's trying not to slip into his darker side but lives in a world where his good side won't let him survive.

 

Indeed. I called Berserk a horror story and I'm sticking to it. The imagery is grotesque, it's powerful and can put many people off. Rape, sex, torture, violence... unfortunately it might seem something the mangaka put there to look edgy, but hell no, it's far from it. Berserk really knows how to deal with all these things well and so far, I've seen some pretty f*cked up things and nothing has given me the impression of "omg this is stupid."

 

Sorry I should have to responded to this yesterday

Spoiler

 

My first comment about Griffith being whiny when he doesn't get what he wants was a half joke referring to that whole thing with him and Gatts and then the Eclipse kind of being his temper tantrum. X3

 

I have to question whether Gatts was actually intended to die though, Sure it's the typical result of that but it doesn't actually seem like he "has" to die for it to work and more to that point Griffith doesn't seem remotely interested in what happens to him one way or another. Considering how connected Gatts was to bringing Griffith to this point of becoming Femto it wouldn't be too large of a stretch to believe that everything that has happened to him afterwords is also planned out. But who knows? I just think it's entirely possible.

 

Much of the story after the Eclipse and the arc you just finished is going to be dealing with the question of what kind of world Griffith wants. The Eclipse does sort of give you an idea but I guess it's one thing to see a childs dream and to actually see the effect he begins to have on the world. Either way very exciting stuff and you have some amazing moments as well as some hhnnnnng beautiful panels to look forward to.

 

Griffith's sense of morality is definitely one of the more interesting aspects of this series, which is only enhanced when you hold him parallel to Gatts and his development which is also rather grey.

 

It definitely has some strong roots in the horror genre. The parts after the eclipse seem to go at things from more of a high fantasy sort of story where you start seeing a lot more magic become apparent in the world (probably in large part thanks to Griffith) although that horror aspect never leaves the series.

 

I could make this much, MUCH longer but I need coffee first and to get my brain going before I start going into certain topics. Sorry again for not responding quicker. Let me know when you meet Shierke, because that part also brings another huge aspect of the story, or at least to Gatts characterization that you'll probably like.

[Isichar]

@Rah

 

How far into Chihayafuru are you? Who are you rooting for in the romance? Who's your favorite character so far?

[Isichar]

Yeah, he's got "her" now and Scerpio is giving us a flashback now.

 

I got a few questions to ask you.

 

I have a few answers for you.

 

I actually really like the perfect egg arc, especially towards the end. The whole thing with the egg and the baby is... man just so awesome. If you want to talk about something completely unexpected happening that is a game changer, that moment is it.

[CrazyRah]

So Ghost In the Shell is getting better now once they've reached the Laughing man case. So far it's been quite interesting and the characters within the team actually feel like they are part of a team with their jokes.

Chihayafuru i've gotten about 10 episodes into and it's really a show that start a bit slow but pick up in quality quite fast and who knew that watching Karuta could be so fascinating. That and the Karuta team really got characters worth getting to know!

 

[Chewin]

So finished Fate/Stay Night.

 

Spoiler

As it so happened I didn't have much better to do this day so decided to marathon'd the whole show, more or less. Not gonna say time was wasted, but I found to the series to be rather lackluster.

 

While I was initially intrigued by the concept of the Holy Grail War and the way they established the presence of magic and the usage of historical figures as pieces to complete each contester's goal in the game, I couldn't help but notice how awfully flat it falls and leaves everything on the surface without ever going into any real depth of the different aspects and features it puts into play. 

 

As a history freak, the whole concept of having different historical / mythical figures from different eras with their own personal agendas and methods of achieving the ultimate reward, is something that I found to be very entertaining. Unfortunately its execution of said concept is pretty mediocre. While the initial clashes between the servants are clever with having them put into different classes each with their own pros and cons, and trying to find different methods to gain the advantage in the struggle is nice, that is basically all there is to it. There is little depth in exploration put into focusing on other aspects, such as fight between ideologies or raising philosophical questions which I found to be a perfect way to explore. This is mainly due to the structure of the narrative, which has the main characters being the center of the plot and being involved in every major battle and never seems to want to bring up or focus on the opponent, and when it does it is most often just crap, placing it into a battle of dichotomy, which I loathe. 

 

The concept of magic is quite poorly executed. The show tries to bring forward that magic has a sense of order and structure to it, yet doesn't delve deep enough to properly flesh it out. Same goes for the rules for the War, which often get explained only when necessary to the plot and gets contradicted just to suit the plot. 

 

As for characters, well the only one that stands out is Saber who is on herself quite a capable and well rounded character and I ended up shipping the idea of a female Arthur, which is saying something. While Shiro is not a bad protaginist per see, he is unfortunately an idiot. While his selflessness is a viable character trait which mixes well with his interactions with the events taking place in the story and results to a certain level of character development, his ability to get into deadly situations time and time again and lacking any real common sense during the events that is taking place is infuriating to watch. I did find Rin to also be a rather capable character and basically one of the only contenders who happened to have any real sense of the events taking place, but her judgement and reasoning for aiding with Shiro is nonexistent and is mostly served for plot convenience.

 

Not going to delve into the romance subplot, but just gonna say that it was handled pretty well and I rather enjoyed it.

 

The anime is apparently an adaptation of a Visual Novel and all of its three different routes that it offers, which is quite clear that Fate/Stay Night is an amalgamation executed poorly. The cumulative amount of questions and unexplained happenings leaves a lot to be desired of this show and I was often left wondering where exactly the story was going. It is more of a casual experience, I would say, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully Fate/Zero is more capable in its execution, which I've heard it is so looking forward to watching it next.

[Saber Wolf]

Watch Zero. It is a lot more complex and has more depth to it and will certainly deliver a lot better than what you found Night lacked.

[Isichar]

*still waiting on Sims questions*

 

So Rah, who are you rooting for romance wise. Also who are your favorite characters overall so far?

 

And yeah I found Zero to be significantly better then Stay.

[Lotion Soronarr]

I think you meant to quote another poster, bro.

 

Fixored.

 

 

Also, best part of Fate/Stay Night:

[Isichar]

^ might wanna spoiler tag that just since the title of the video is a bit of a give away.

 

I mean you don't want to ruin the best part of the whole show do you?

[The King of Dust]

Meh, Fate/Stay Night won't really get any better or worse whether it's spoiled or not. The only reason I'd recommend watching it to anyone is so that they'd be able to enjoy Carnival Phantasm afterwards.

[Hellion Rex]

Well, at least you have Zero now

 

Which has, like, the best first episode

The ending always give me such chills!