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If everyone just sat back and let insane dictators rule in peace then there would be no need for war. Let yourself be oppressed! For peace!

 

Ironically, that insane dictator was more sane and less of a dictator than Leluche the Douche.

The second season turned Leuloch from a sympathetic guy into a moron. Granted, it did that to practically everyone. The second season was horrible compared to the first.



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Ironically, that insane dictator was more sane and less of a dictator than Leluche the Douche.

 

Something tells me you just don't like ambitious people.

 

Lelouch

Reinhard

Griffith

 

And Lelouch's 'dictatorship' was only a means for his Zero Requiem plan. 

 

Suzaku was always dumb. Even if you agreed with his ideals he was still an idiot.

 

"I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A TRAP! BUT I'LL FIGHT YOU ANYWAY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT!"



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Prepare thy eyes for sexy sexy Berserk.

 

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BRO.

 

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Something tells me you just don't like ambitious people.

 

Lelouch

Reinhard

Griffith

 

And Lelouch's 'dictatorship' was only a means for his Zero Requiem plan. 

 

Suzaku was always dumb. Even if you agreed with his ideals he was still an idiot.

 

 

When that ambition entails dominating over everyone else? Yes.

 

His Zero Requeim plan was total bulls***ery.

Why is it OK for him to turn into the worst dictator ever to pull his (redicolous) plan, but it's not ok for everyone else?

 

And if it wasn't for him, everything would have turned out nicely. Suzaku and that princess were working to make things better from the inside.

 

Instead he left the world conquered by Britannia. I'm sure the next Emperor will be all flowers and sunshine.



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Like Yuffie's plan was only forwarded to improve foreign relations ONLY as a way to make the Black Knight's 'purpose' pointless. It was very clever, but never with the intention of bettering the lives of everything. Britannia was the worst of the freaking worst. It's everything you despise and Suzaku alone wasn't going to change things. Especially when he so readily agrees to everything they have to say. Simply putting it, he was not smart enough to change anything from within. He was part of the nobility by R2 and still made no demands or worked to raise his own influence.

 

Requiem worked in the end. I've discussed it before and also how it's a certain leap of the imagination (providing that people aren't all total f*cking a**holes and actually want something better.)

 

There will be no 'next Emperor' at least, not under the direct supervision of 'Zero.' As long as Zero remains there will be a symbol for everybody to be reminded by. That's why Requiem works, because of the Zero's existence, nothing more.

 

Why is okay for Lelouch to pull that? Because it was short term. He never intended to keep things that way. Charles actually believed his nonsense.

 

But that's CG. We all know it can't be without its obvious flaws. Mostly its extremes. This is why I say it's a Saturday morning Cartoon in comparison to LotGH, there are certainly no extremes there. In fact, extremes are one of the things that really f*ck things over for most of the politicians there.

 

But Reinhard?

 

Man, Reinhard was a better person than I'll ever be. Reinhard's a frickin' saint.

 

Griffith?

 

I'll have to wait and see. He's certainly no Reinhard, but he's one of the best villains/antagonists I've come across in fiction.



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Franken Fran sure got some special quirks that makes it both a fascinating but also a slight bit disturbing read. It's hard to put it down once I start, always want to know what might happen next, what kind of insanity will happen

 

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Anyone that believes in the glorious ambition of our invader know what's best!

 

De geso!


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Requiem worked in the end. I've discussed it before and also how it's a certain leap of the imagination (providing that people aren't all total f*cking a**holes and actually want something better.)

 

There will be no 'next Emperor' at least, not under the direct supervision of 'Zero.' As long as Zero remains there will be a symbol for everybody to be reminded by. That's why Requiem works, because of the Zero's existence, nothing more.

 

 

It was (and is) fantasy.

There will not be the next Emperor? Why not? Of course there will be. Natiosn need leaders. Leuluch is dead. Someone has to take the throne. And somebody after that. Etc, etc..

 

Zero as a symbol will stop tyranny? LOL. when has zeros existence stopped anyone before? His actiosn did, not his existence. Not to mention it won't last. Suzaku is no Leuloch and can't be the proper next Zero. And when he dies, what then?

 

 

 

 

Why is okay for Lelouch to pull that? Because it was short term. He never intended to keep things that way. Charles actually believed his nonsense.

 

And it might have actually worked.

Charles wanted a better world as much as Lelouch. And frankly, his plan (that sounds very instrumentality-like) makes more sense and has a better chance of actually working.

 

 

 


But Reinhard?

Man, Reinhard was a better person than I'll ever be. Reinhard's a frickin' saint.

 

Good, yes?

But still ambitious and will gladly force his rule over everyone. He might be a good ruler, but he still forces himself upon you.

 

 

 

 

Also:

DA GESO!

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Roronoa Zoro, Hijikata and Piccolo are probably my top 3 favorite anime sidekicks ever.

About LOGH I can't think of anyone special. Most of them are cool in their unique way.



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Ironically, that insane dictator was more sane and less of a dictator than Leluche the Douche.

 

 

Was he though? Didn't he want to turn everyone into docile zombies. Lelouche being a douche, I agree there. 



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Prepare thy eyes for sexy sexy Berserk.

Spoiler


*cough*

*nudge nudge*

*wink wink*

BRO.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO READ THIS?! xD


The more I stare at it the more I think that Shierke/Gatts one that you also posted in the PM is probably my favorite panel of this series.

And I second Rah reading this series. Come join in on our gushing! :3
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The more I stare at it the more I think that Shierke/Gatts one that you also posted in the PM is probably my favorite panel of this series.

And I second Rah reading this series. Come join in on our gushing! :3

 

So demanding! Some day I'll get to it, probably not in October but after that I should have more than enough time to do all the things that I'd like  ;)

Until then Ghost in the Shell and Chihaya will have to continue to do their awesome share!



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Ah well as long as you get to it eventually. I'm just happy to have someone else here to talk about Chihayafuru with! *insert happy Chihaya gif here since I'm at work*
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Ah well as long as you get to it eventually. I'm just happy to have someone else here to talk about Chihayafuru with! *insert happy Chihaya gif here since I'm at work*

 

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*sigh*  :D


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Potential Second season inbound for Nisekoi.

 

Chitoge's mom arc, Shuu's arc, Haru, Amnesia arc, and a landslide of filler. My body has never been more ready. Hopefully if this is a thing, they won't mess up all the important scenes like Shinbou did in the first anime season. 

 

 

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It was (and is) fantasy.

There will not be the next Emperor? Why not? Of course there will be. Natiosn need leaders. Leuluch is dead. Someone has to take the throne. And somebody after that. Etc, etc..

 

Zero as a symbol will stop tyranny? LOL. when has zeros existence stopped anyone before? His actiosn did, not his existence. Not to mention it won't last. Suzaku is no Leuloch and can't be the proper next Zero. And when he dies, what then?

 

'Next Emperor' in the way you put it. Besides, after the whole incident with Lelouch I doubt imperialism will last much longer.

 

Zero is a symbol because he remains. Or don't you see him in the epilogue making negotiations. He will exist to preserve the message of justice and equality for all. He killed the 'demon' Lelouch, he put an end to his tyranny. It doesn't matter WHO lies behind the mask, but what the mask represents. That's why the world can find relative peace under the efforts of Zero (Suzaku.)

 

There is a slight possibility (under theories of course) that Suzaku is the same as C2/CC now. I don't know the details, but the explanation is reasonable enough. Basically it's the same way C2/CC got her power.

 

But let's say that he isn't immortal and does die. It's the basics of legacy. Martin Luther King was shot dead, but it doesn't mean his legacy didn't live on. He remained a symbol for the Black population to fight for equal rights and others took his place too. Zero, alive or dead, literally saved the world from a tyrant. This was Lelouch's plan, to make himself the common goal that people will strive to go against.

 

The only reason CG makes it seem like a happily ever after is because the nature of the ending. But Kallen herself said 'there's still a lot more to do' or something along those lines. There will be political fallout, there will be war and there will be other conflicts.

 

If there ever were an R3, it'd be interesting on how it'd develop Suzaku's character and show just what the consequences of his plan are. How it wouldn't work perfectly and how there'd be a lot of struggle to keep things going smoothly.

 

And lol no. A 'world without lies' is simply terrible. F*ck I'd hate that. The Emperor was a nutbag to begin with. If there was ever a huge flaw in CGR2 is to try and add misplaced 'depth' to the character.

 

Just imagine it all. Yes, fundamentally it'd make us 'better' but is that really all that good? Might as well make us all hardcore Christians too...

 

As for Reinhard...

 

There will always be a hierarchy. I'd rather have him at the top than a-holes like Job. But he remains grey all the same. The cost of conquest and war is a terrible thing and better leave the alliance as it was....

 

Which he did, he left the alliance government working on its own until they f*cked it up by messing with Yang Wenli and he had to step in. GOD even AFTER Yang Wenli escaped from custody and set up a resistance Reinhard and his bros still didn't see the need to put the blame 100% on him. They fought him out of necessity, not out of vengeance.

 

Still, I completely, 100% disagree with you that he's a d*** or any where near it. F*ck, if it wasn't for him the war wouldn't have ended. The Imperials would carry on and the alliance would never have stopped. One side had to win in the end.



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Oh dear, Mudazumo Naki Kaikaku just went ... don't know. There's no appropriate word for it.

 

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Yes, that totally is the guy you think it is. This manga is crazy. Totally bonkers. Nuts. Apeshit insane. And I can't stop reading it!


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Oh dear, Mudazumo Naki Kaikaku just went ... don't know. There's no appropriate word for it.

 

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Yes, that totally is the guy you think it is. This manga is crazy. Totally bonkers. Nuts. Apeshit insane. And I can't stop reading it!

Yay!

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I actually kind of want to read this just knowing how off the walls insane it is.  :lol:



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Yay!

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I actually kind of want to read this just knowing how off the walls insane it is.  :lol:

 

 

No, not Charlie :rolleyes:

 

And yup, go read it. You'll laugh your ass off. This is how politics should be!



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Was he though? Didn't he want to turn everyone into docile zombies. Lelouche being a douche, I agree there. 

 

He wanted to unite everyones minds or something like that. Ya know, there would be no misunderstanding and everyone would perfectly understand eachother. Can't recall the exact details, but that sounds more likely to bring about world piece, a world without lies, etc, etc.. than ANY plan Leluoche ever had.



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No, not Charlie :rolleyes:

 

And yup, go read it. You'll laugh your ass off. This is how politics should be!

I was reminded of this:

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No, not Charlie :rolleyes:

 

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Sounds pretty crazy to me. Ledouche may have had a cliche plan but it sets off a hell if a lot Less crazy alarms then his fathers did.

If I heard Charles describing his plans IRL I would go "riiiiight" as I started backing up slowly.

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Why is it OK for him to turn into the worst dictator ever to pull his (redicolous) plan, but it's not ok for everyone else?

 

<Spoilers> That's actually what I liked about Lelouch, he wasn't obsessed with complete sort of idealized perfection in his planning and goals. Pragmatism and idealism were always struggling against each other. He also was frank with his hypocrisy many times, the fact that he sort of enjoyed war, the fact that he was constantly changing goals and lying to everyone, the fact that he would do things out of envy or selfishness. I feel like that's epitomized in the scene towards the end in Japan when he is talking to Suzaku and trying to get him to save Euphemia. It makes him much more human to me, especially compared to someone like Schneizel who is truly just a grand chess master.

 

Plus, I think he saw the entire Britannia Royal Family as corrupt and beyond redemption, and after accidentally massacring Euphemia, I don't think he saw a way out for himself either. So the only option was simply to take everyone with him and then get rid of himself



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Looks like an awesome manga.

 

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Just found this.

 

It broke my heart.

 

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My beautiful Homura :crying: