Only seen the first 2 episodes of Darker Than Black, but "the magic" didn't really bother me. There's definitely a level of intrigue to it, and I love the tone of the show itself. Kinda does have a bit of P3 in it.
Most animes I end up either listening to or checking up while doing other things, but the first 2 episodes had my attention from beginning to end.
I did try watching Persona: Trinity Soul while looking for anime similar to DTB. Sadly, although I enjoyed the art style, I've heard that it doesn't really capture the spirit of the Persona series all that well.
If you pick up DTB again, let me know. I love any conversations where that, Psycho Pass, or Fate/Zero crop up.
I did try watching Persona: Trinity Soul while looking for anime similar to DTB. Sadly, although I enjoyed the art style, I've heard that it doesn't really capture the spirit of the Persona series all that well.
If you pick up DTB again, let me know. I love any conversations where that, Psycho Pass, or Fate/Zero crop up.
There's alot of plot holes and inconsistencies with the Persona series.
To the point, Trinity says adults can not use a persona. This is contradicted by many adult characters int he games who can use a persona. .
You can't just leave a comment like that and then go to bed... Two days until whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, I don't see anything imminent Chihayafuru-related.
Fair enough sim, though I don't think the lack of explanation for all the things is that big of a deal for enjoying the series. Some of it is intentionally mysterious for the setting which I don't really have a problem with, like what the gates are, how they work, or where the moon and the stars went, but the way the plot is resolved in both seasons leaves something to be desired. When the magic in question is integral to the resolution of the plot it ought to be explained better. At least it's easy enough to tell what happened, even if the how or the why are more vague.
About Evangelion, LCL is the blood of an angel that humans can breathe, what more do you need to know???
"This is why I hate the Japanese" OK JoJo...
Naw, LCL creating humans being the blood of Eve/Adam err...? There's a lot more to it than is initially said.
In the description:
NOTE: The Ancestral Race was one of the official plot bits of information Hideaki Anno, the creator of Evangelion, decided to release for the series in a PS2 game. All of the files were unlockable in the game, known as the Classified Information. Now you know!
And when I meant "the Japanese" I directing this more towards the FF series that sometimes pulls this sh*t off and it p*sses me off to no end. Like Tifa ending up in Cloud's subconscious...how? But that's not even it, more like the different freaking DIMENSIONS they end up in that make no sense what's so ever seeing as they were somewhere else before.
But I still love FF, so hey. It can't bother me that much.
But don't twist it to make it sound like I was taking a sh*t on them. That's not cool, Puddi.
Anyway since I'm awake now and my mind isn't as tired let me elaborate. We can leave that mess up there for when I have to hunt for that extra chromosome (I'm so going to hell for that.)
The magic in DTB for both S1 and S2 is fine until the end.
As I said, magic is an element that allows writers to take its fiction elsewhere. It allows it to expand and explore places without too much problem. Suspension of Disbelief isn't a problem when the magic is already established as a thing that can occur. And hell, Suspension of Disbelief isn't even the problem to begin with so why am I talking about it?
What annoys me is that the rules they set for the magic is so far surpassed what they initially put together in the beginning that they don't even give you the luxury to explain why it is happening. Or rather, it is explained, but poorly. Which is even worse since gaps in the dialogue lead to even more questions. Prior to explanation I could rule it out as magic, but when logic is applied to your magic, then I need to apply logic whenever magic occurs.
Just as if Hei were to somehow shoot fireballs out of his eyes and it were explained as "neurological evolution of the membrane of the nembrane of the dembrane frontal lobe polly polly poo." How am I supposed connect the dots? What happened to the rules? Why is a level 8 Wizard casting level 13 spells?
So how did Hei end up in some vortex and how did Yin pull him out of there? Was it metaphorical? Or was it actually happening? This is Season One by the way, which is a lot less than what Season 2 pulled.
I enjoyed that they Contractors evolved, I enjoyed that the Dolls evolved. It was important for the setting and for the themes. It was important for the characters. Kuno couldn't bring himself to shoot Yin when he saw her crying, Hei was softened in a way with Yin's evolution and gradual humanity. He began to care for her and that's all cool.
It was a development that was hinted at with subtlety and never exploded onto my face. I had time to adjust to these changes and they were shrouded with a sort of mystery that works. Sure, I could be asking WHY they're evolving, but if that were the case, I'd be asking questions for every f*cking detail I find that needn't the asking.
See, this is when magic works. Magic with preliminaries shouldn't get mixed with magic without them or shouldn't try to become that. They work well separately, and if they do transcend each other (like Berserk) the evolution needs consistency. I know Griffith can do X because I saw him doing Y earlier. Even if it isn't fully detailed and explained, I still understand that the Y was needed for the X to happen.
Now this is when Season 2 comes in.
I never had a problem with it at all. I like Hei and Suo's relationship, his depression and how she slowly pulled him out of that. I actually think it deserved more episodes, and it might have fleshed out a few more things. I loved the different factions pitting against each other to find Hei, the story this time went places that I enjoyed. Every problem that people somehow had with Hei being overshadowed by Suo wasn't an issue with me because I never really saw it like that to begin with. They both had their roles to play. Hei's depression obviously stemmed from Yin's disappearance, and you didn't need the OVAs to tell you that. It wasn't jarring, it was intriguing.
But then we have Yin and her f*cking magic. I understand that Dolls have Spectres (which I suppose are actually their souls) that can move around far ahead. But then Yin had to become something that came out of no where and makes no sense from what we know of episodes past.
Sure, Dolls can evolve, they're people, just like Contractors. We get it and we like it. But does a doll have the ability to become this god-like entity? Where did that come from? Why is Yin so important? What makes her so special? How did she attain those powers? Why can she make a Gate? What can a Gate really do?
And when they do give their explanation, all we get are allusions and ambiguous phrasing mixed in with a little techno babble and boom: PLOT. It doesn't really need to be so complicated. IIRC, they don't even question as to why Yin is like that, or the true nature behind her being. They make her out as something special and leave it at that. Actually no. Apparently she's a weapon to extract Contractors... but then how does that work if we've been with Yin all along? This is called making stuff in the spot because if they had foreshadowed thing long before they decided to go with this plot it would have gone a lot better.
Hell, maybe they were leaving all this crap for Season 3. Because it seemed that Yin basically said "f*ck yo' rules" and removed magic in its entirety.
So what bothers me most is Yin and her magic. And how it came out of nowhere and made no sense as to what we knew before. Her spectre and this whole Yin/Yang stuff of 'meeting' is... well, it tries to be mysterious, hell, it even has a prophecy! A PROPHECY! We can't go wrong with that. But yeah, it does. Because you know what? If the magic hadn't been so grounded and consistent for 26+ episodes I wouldn't have had a problem with Toshi and Kondo joining (it's Izumaki or something but it escapes me now.)
Personally, I f*cking love magic. I love fantasy and fireballs and sh*t, but I just hate it when consistency is pushed out the way. It's like if Gandalf took out a rocket-launcher and began to explain that Middle-Earth is actually a secret base for ISIS terrorists and Obama is going to be assassinated by Uruk-Hai.
Not as ridiculous as that of course. But just as jarring.
So see. The conclusion (and by this I mean Suo running to school with ****** bread in her mouth sh*t) never bothered me. Because I knew it happened because of SOMETHING, but how that SOMETHING particularly worked to make the conclusion happen is never really explored. By the end all I saw was flashing colours something weird and... yeah.
Like I said, it was probably all meant for Season 3. Which is a shame, because I would have jumped straight into that with no hesitation just to see how they'd explain the events of Season 2.
Only seen the first 2 episodes of Darker Than Black, but "the magic" didn't really bother me. There's definitely a level of intrigue to it, and I love the tone of the show itself. Kinda does have a bit of P3 in it.
Most animes I end up either listening to or checking up while doing other things, but the first 2 episodes had my attention from beginning to end.
Sure.
It never bothered me until the end. More for Season 2 since it's far more integral to the plot whereas in Season 1 it's a brief moment that can't really do any harm.
And now I have this crap stuck in my head ><
F*ck you DTB, you need a third season to make me happy.
Finished Psycho-Pass. Look at little Akane turning into a detective. They grow up so fast.
I'm liking her reluctant acceptance of the Sybil system. She understands its necessity in keeping order in society as it is now but doesn't agree that it's where they need to be headed. She wisely doesn't want to openly defy it. Looking forward to checking out season 2 now.
Cute, pointless characters do not belong in any show that wants me to take it seriously or talk about serious subjects. It fits the tone as much a a clown parade fits a cemetary.
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Cute, pointless characters do not belong in any show that wants me to take it seriously or talk about serious subjects. It fits the tone as much a a clown parade fits a cemetary.
For parodies and kid shows? Sure, go ahead.
This is a semi-intelligent huge pet that a princess rides with it for transportation. This huge but kawaii ducky actually does something else for the plot too.
Cute, pointless characters do not belong in any show that wants me to take it seriously or talk about serious subjects. It fits the tone as much a a clown parade fits a cemetary.
For parodies and kid shows? Sure, go ahead.
Luckily, an anime's exploration of themes/subjects/whatever doesn't depend on whether or not its tone is unanimously consistent. Psycho-Pass has cutesy elements and I doubt anyone who's seen the show would dismiss the topics it tries to explore because of that.
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