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[Alanosborn1991]

>>>In b4 Lollololl Cerberus fanboy<<<

I dont know why Bioware wants to make Cerberus and Reapers the only enemys in Mass Effect 3 it seems.

To me this series is about choice. Am I mistaken?

In Mass Effect 2 you could support Cerberus is several ways

-Keep Collector Base (Make own Reapers, learn how to control Reapers?)
-Give Legion to Cerberus (Probably to learn more about how to control the Geth)
-Keep David in Atlas Station for study on how to control the Geth
-Support Illusive Man but never officially (Heaven forbid Shephard actually makes decisons on who to side with, less it confuse the 10 yr old Gears of War, COD gamer)
-Others I forgot

But now it seems the Illusive Man just wants to throw Shephard out the window, saying he doesnt need him/her anymore.

Yet the Illusive Man brought Shephard back, gave him/her the Normandy back and agrees that if they lose Shephard humanity will follow.

So why does he throw Shephard away? Why cant we contact the Illusive Man and work with him? Take Mass Effect 3 in a different direction?

Being a Renegade means stopping the Reapers at any cost. Shephard even says this but I guess working with Cerberus again even though he was in all of ME2 is too high of a cost?

Im no writer but lets say it goes like this.

After Shep leaves Earth a Shep who has supported TIM in the past should be contacted by TIM in the Table room place.

TIM says how they found the Prothean Artifact on Mars that will help stop the Reapers. Unfortunatly going along with this will mean instead of Cerberus hounding Shephard it will be the Alliance!

Liara, VS, Anderson, Hackett and all Alliance forces will be enemys from now on. Instead of Liara we get Kai Leng as a squadmate and your job for the rest of ME3 is to gather everyone around Cerberus's plan.

I hope this option is in ME3 if not it will be a huge missed opportuninity.

What do you guys think?

Also Im neither pro Cerberus or pro Alliance I am pro choice. I have around 13 Shephards waiting to be imported in ME3 =D

Modifié par Alanosborn1991, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:36 .

[gogman25]

So, you're having ME2 nostalgia and want to work with the xenophobes again because you're convinced they're the good guys? Maybe there is too much emphasis on them rather than other evil guys, but they're still evil.

[CroGamer002]

Oleg Petrovsky.


Enough said.

[Yuoaman]

We don't have all the details but from what I've heard.

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

SPOILERS

The Illusive Man may not be the one attacking Shepard.

[Adanu]

gogman25 wrote...

So, you're having ME2 nostalgia and want to work with the xenophobes again because you're convinced they're the good guys? Maybe there is too much emphasis on them rather than other evil guys, but they're still evil.

Every species in this universe is xenophobic to a point. We're just more honest about it because we're newcomers.

[naledgeborn]

Mesina2 wrote...

Oleg Petrovsky.


Enough said.

And Miranda Lawson, Jacob Taylor, and Kelly Chambers.

[LGTX]

I think we've misidentified the high horse rider here.

[Habs25]

I know better than the developers of the game! I SWEAR!

[CroGamer002]

Yuoaman wrote...

The Illusive Man may not be the one attacking Shepard.

No.

According to GameInformer ME3 coverage that happen 2 weeks ago, Illusive Man pretty much declares war on Shepard.

And from GT-TV we had few days ago, it pretty much confirms it.

Modifié par Mesina2, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:43 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

"Welcome to the evening news. Today, Canadian company 'BioWare' released Mass Effect 3, a computer 'role playing game' that allows children to play as a card carrying member of a racist, fascist, criminal organization named after a Greek god of death. The game rewards behaviors such as paying alien prostitutes to dance, exterminating pregnant princesses, and taking over enormous ancient death machines in order to assure the supremacy of their race and promote galactic purity. Also in the news tonight, we cover a puppy parade."

[CroGamer002]

naledgeborn wrote...

And Miranda Lawson, Jacob Taylor, and Kelly Chambers.

They quit from Cerberus, at least if you destroy Collector base.

[WizenSlinky0]

First of all, the title of this thread explodes with arrogance. As the creators of the universe, no one is better suited to knowing the motivations and decisions of the characters in it. To even suggest we "know better" about what they would do is...well kind of silly.

But the fear that choice is beginning to take second stage in a game that was very much about it, is rational. Of course just because we may initially be placed against the illusive man doesn't mean those who want to won't have an option to reconcile at some point.

Who knows.

[AlexXIV]

Some people suggested Shepard should have had more influence on Cerberus. As in, paragons screw Cerberus, go back to the Alliance and fight the Reapers. Renegades take over/use Cerberus as a tool against the Reapers. Even if it means replacing TIM if he doesn't want to cooperate.

[spirosz]

Someone needs to "Lololol" play the game first.

[CroGamer002]

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Especially since we came across characters like Greg,Miranda, Jacob, and Kelly.

Who?

[AlexXIV]

Mesina2 wrote...

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Especially since we came across characters like Greg,Miranda, Jacob, and Kelly.

Who?

I'm sure he means Bob.

[Alanosborn1991]

LGTX wrote...

I think we've misidentified the high horse rider here.

High horse: Arrogantly believing oneself superior to others, often by putting down large groups of people.

I am not claiming to be superior to anyone I am just forwarding an idea I had.

Bioware would be the ones on the High Horse because they believe the Alliance is better than Cerberus. Then having us the player mindlessly put down and kill all of Cerberus in ME3

[valkulon]

Got to love the hate fest for a game that hasn't even been released yet.

[bleetman]

Oh, you thought the Illusive Man was actually on Shepard's side?

Heh.

[naledgeborn]

jreezy wrote...

Sounds like a Cerberus fanboy to me.

And this a bad thing how? BSN is an online community of fanboys and girls...

[squee365]

Someone wasn't paying attention during ME1, or Overlord.

[NPH11]

   Nothing you actually said had anything to do with Cerberus not being evil, so I'm a little confused as to why Bioware needs to get off a "Cerberus is evil" high horse. They're evil. They are willing to let over half the galaxy fry if it will put humanity on top and they have no qualms about sacrficing many (including humans) for the "greater good". Such lines of thinking are usually seen as evil.

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

-Keep Collector Base (Make own Reapers, learn how to control Reapers?)

Making creatures that have the power to eliminate entire races and that we actually know nothing about (except that any attempted experimentation has ended in failure) would be considered an evil (not to mention stupid) ideal. As would attempting to control those same creatures. Especially when that control is held by a terrorist organization.

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

-Give Legion to Cerberus (Probably to learn more about how to control the Geth)

 

Same as above, basically. Experimenting with Geth tends to end poorly and putting a terrorist organization with little morals in control is generally an evil ideal.

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

-Keep David in Atlas Station for study on how to control the Geth

 

Now we're putting someone through a living hell to achieve the above. Again, evil. And this time we get to see Cerberus' "greater good" mentality show through.

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

-Support Illusive Man but never officially (Heaven forbid Shephard actually makes decisons on who to side with, less it confuse the 10 yr old Gears of War, COD gamer)
-Others I forgot

But now it seems the Illusive Man just wants to throw Shephard out the window, saying he doesnt need him/her anymore.

Yet the Illsuive Man brought Shephard back, gave him/her the Normandy back and agrees that if they lose Shephard humanity will follow.

So why does he throw Shephard away? Why cant we contact the Illusive Man and work with him? Take Mass Effect 3 in a different direction?

Being a Renegade means stopping the Reapers at any cost. Shephard even says this but I guess working with Cerberus again even though he was in all of ME2 is too high of a cost? 

 

Why does he do all of these things? Possibly because Shepard is an active threat to his control of Cerberus? Possibly for other reasons that will be revealed when the game actually comes out? Possibly because he runs a terrorist organization and isn't exactly known for being trustworthy?

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

After Shep leaves Earth a Shep who has supported TIM in the past should be contacted by TIM in the Table room place.

TIM says how they found the Prothean Artifact on Mars that will help stop the Reapers. Unfortunatly going along with this will mean instead of Cerberus hounding Shephard it will be the Alliance!

Liara, VS, Anderson, Hackett and all Alliance forces will be enemys from now on. Instead of Liara we get Kai Leng as a squadmate and your job for the rest of ME3 is to gather everyone around Cerberus's plan.

Raises the questions of how Cerberus found this Prothean Mystery Device (PMD) and why anybody would chose to trust the shady, xenophobic terrorist organization over the Alliance Military. What Cerberus Plan? Who would chose to gather around them?

It astounds me that some people still seem to side with Cerberus. They are bad people! They have little morals to speak of! They have no qualms about sacrificing many innocent people to further their own goals! They have never proven to be trustworthy in any way!

I mean, I love Martin Sheen's voice as much as the next guy, but even if I were a renegade I would never trust The Illusive Man with any sort of power or weapon. He doesn't care about anybody but himself and a select group of people.