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[packardbell]

 I've been thinking this ove rand how Kai Leng might be a potential secret squad mate, but not in the tradional way you might think. Anyway - do you remember in Jade Empire when you defeat Death's Hand and you can either set him free or bind him to you? Well this could be a renegade choice for ME3, you've defeated Kai and he's unconcious and you bring him back onto the Normandy.

EDI makes a suggestion that you're able to control himl and his actions via his implants, which are most likely Reaper tech. Obviously this decision would be considered a very renegade decision and it's likely some of your squad might not take this decision likely, just like in Jade Empire. Anyway just throwing that out there,.

[packardbell]

Anyone see the plausibility in my theory?

[Grey34]

yeah maybe but i doubt it. i don't see the use really, and having someone like him would be liability  on board

Modifié par Grey34, 22 janvier 2012 - 11:06 .

[MAZ77]

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

[Grey34]

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

[MAZ77]

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

[Lunatic LK47]

packardbell wrote...

 I've been thinking this ove rand how Kai Leng might be a potential secret squad mate, but not in the tradional way you might think. Anyway - do you remember in Jade Empire when you defeat Death's Hand and you can either set him free or bind him to you? Well this could be a renegade choice for ME3, you've defeated Kai and he's unconcious and you bring him back onto the Normandy.

EDI makes a suggestion that you're able to control himl and his actions via his implants, which are most likely Reaper tech. Obviously this decision would be considered a very renegade decision and it's likely some of your squad might not take this decision likely, just like in Jade Empire. Anyway just throwing that out there,.

Uh, no. Keeping Death's Hand in Jade Empire more or less forced you to kill the majority of your team, and let's add in that Kai Leng is a one-dimensional xenophobic jack-ass on the same level as Saren in the idiot department.

[Georilla]

There's no way in hell this will happen, Kai Leng is a badass mofo who works for Cerberus and dedicates everything for Cerberus. In the book Retribution, he fought a squad of Turian soldiers on his own and won. He fought Anderson and Sanders combined and won. The only way Anderson won two times was when he used his cunning skills. And even at the very last point of the story, Kai Leng got away. There's just no reason to believe Kai Leng will get in Shepard's team.

[Adugan]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

packardbell wrote...

 I've been thinking this ove rand how Kai Leng might be a potential secret squad mate, but not in the tradional way you might think. Anyway - do you remember in Jade Empire when you defeat Death's Hand and you can either set him free or bind him to you? Well this could be a renegade choice for ME3, you've defeated Kai and he's unconcious and you bring him back onto the Normandy.

EDI makes a suggestion that you're able to control himl and his actions via his implants, which are most likely Reaper tech. Obviously this decision would be considered a very renegade decision and it's likely some of your squad might not take this decision likely, just like in Jade Empire. Anyway just throwing that out there,.

Uh, no. Keeping Death's Hand in Jade Empire more or less forced you to kill the majority of your team, and let's add in that Kai Leng is a one-dimensional xenophobic jack-ass on the same level as Saren in the idiot department.

This problem can be solved by mass effect fields.

[didymos1120]

Georilla wrote...

In the book Retribution, he fought a squad of Turian soldiers on his own and won.

Um, yes and no.  He didn't actually kill all of them.  TIM nailed one.  Also, he caught them totally unawares by sneaking up from behind while they were busy trying to kill TIM.

[Georilla]

didymos1120 wrote...

Georilla wrote...

In the book Retribution, he fought a squad of Turian soldiers on his own and won.

Um, yes and no.  He didn't actually kill all of them.  TIM nailed one.  Also, he caught them totally unawares by sneaking up from behind while they were busy trying to kill TIM.

True, but it's also due to the Turian squad's lack of situational awareness that Kai managed to sneak up on them. A good squad would secure their back aswell.

Modifié par Georilla, 22 janvier 2012 - 11:56 .

[packardbell]

Georilla wrote...

There's no way in hell this will happen, Kai Leng is a badass mofo who works for Cerberus and dedicates everything for Cerberus. In the book Retribution, he fought a squad of Turian soldiers on his own and won. He fought Anderson and Sanders combined and won. The only way Anderson won two times was when he used his cunning skills. And even at the very last point of the story, Kai Leng got away. There's just no reason to believe Kai Leng will get in Shepard's team.

Not willingly of course, but he would have no choice.

[N7Raider]

MAZ77 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

Because it's absurd to think EDI could even control him, I'm sure TIM would just implant his most capable fighter with cybernetic implants that could simply be hacked when in range.  

Modifié par N7Raider, 22 janvier 2012 - 05:17 .

[mkk316]

Interesting, but I think Shep needs a human sized antagonist, and TIM isn't really enough to do that. Kai would be better served as one of the game's badguys, Shep has enough team mates.

[packardbell]

N7Raider wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

Because it's absurd to think EDI could even control him, I'm sure TIM would implant his most capable fighter with cybernetic implants that can simply be hacked.  

It would seem likely that he would put his top operative on a short leash so he doen't disobey orders or decides to go rogue. Anyway, we saw this control with Saren when he received those implants when he tried to resist Sovereign. So as I said before, we knock Kai out and bring him onboard the normandy. Removing TIM's control over Kai would be a simple thing, make sure the only signal that should tell Kai what to do would be from the Normandy.

[JamieCOTC]

While nothing is impossible, it's highly unlikely. Leng is so incredibly loyal to TIM and the cause, it would have to work like Spike's chip from "Buffy" which cause way too many variables to pull off in any believable way.

[packardbell]

mkk316 wrote...

Interesting, but I think Shep needs a human sized antagonist, and TIM isn't really enough to do that. Kai would be better served as one of the game's badguys, Shep has enough team mates.

Well - I've given a few good examples such as Death's Hand in JE and Loghain in Origins.. both were atagonists in their respective games but weren't the real threat.. the dark spawn and master li respectively;.

[GnusmasTHX]

MAZ77 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

Give the characters more credit... They should be genre savvy enough to know using a mind controlled homicidal sociopath is a terrible idea.

[N7Raider]

packardbell wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

Because it's absurd to think EDI could even control him, I'm sure TIM would implant his most capable fighter with cybernetic implants that can simply be hacked.  

It would seem likely that he would put his top operative on a short leash so he doen't disobey orders or decides to go rogue. Anyway, we saw this control with Saren when he received those implants when he tried to resist Sovereign. So as I said before, we knock Kai out and bring him onboard the normandy. Removing TIM's control over Kai would be a simple thing, make sure the only signal that should tell Kai what to do would be from the Normandy.

sure but even at that wouldn't TIM have taken precautions to make sure only he could be the only one to control him?  
Sovereign only took full control of Saren after he died, before that he was only using light indoctrination.  
Besides doesn't he only have implants in his legs?  How would hacking implants in his legs control his mind?  

[lxwkl31]

TheDaniellasaur wrote...

Hmm.. I doubt it. I think we're just going to kill him and then be done with it.

After what he did to Gillian, I hope so!

[packardbell]

N7Raider wrote...

packardbell wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

The ME 3 writers aren't capable of pulling this off. Sorry.

Although it would be an interesting idea.

of course not  because it would not make sense in the first place

Why would it not make sense? Kai Leng is an extremely capable fighter, something Shepard will always need.

Having a second Shepard leading another squad doubles the chances, right? And Kai Leng could integrate human racists into the war effort, strenghtening the anti-Reaper force.

But the bleeding hearts at Bioware cannot let that happen.

Because it's absurd to think EDI could even control him, I'm sure TIM would implant his most capable fighter with cybernetic implants that can simply be hacked.  

It would seem likely that he would put his top operative on a short leash so he doen't disobey orders or decides to go rogue. Anyway, we saw this control with Saren when he received those implants when he tried to resist Sovereign. So as I said before, we knock Kai out and bring him onboard the normandy. Removing TIM's control over Kai would be a simple thing, make sure the only signal that should tell Kai what to do would be from the Normandy.

sure but even at that wouldn't TIM have taken precautions to make sure only he could be the only one to control him?  
Sovereign only took full control of Saren after he died, before that he was only using light indoctrination.  
Besides doesn't he only have implants in his legs?  How would hacking implants in his legs control his mind?  

Well we honestly don't know the implications of his implants as we only have the concept art to go by, but it seems to be extenstive in the head area. It wouldn't be unheard of for the Reaper tech to send signals to the brain - this is all speculation on my part though.

[Thargorichiban]

Yeah... Kai Leng is really the Cerberus equivalent of Shepard. He's not going to be giving up or changing sides until you kill him.

[Annoyed Dragon]

Thargorichiban wrote...

Yeah... Kai Leng is really the Cerberus equivalent of Shepard. He's not going to be giving up or changing sides until you kill him.

I haven't had time to read the mass effect book yet though my brother did get me all the Mass Effect & Dragon Age books as Christmas gift.

Was this Kai Leng around during ME2 if so why spend a fortune to bring back Shepard when they alread have there own equivalent?