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[u2rocksbaby]

Before I say anything, I just want to point out that this was a personal problem I had with Liara based on personal opinons about her, and any differing views are not only understandable, but welcomed for discussion.

In Mass Effect 1, Liara was, to me, a young, naive, socially maladjusted nerd enraptured by her dashing rescuer, Shepard. On the other hand, she was cute, sweet, and curious among a cast of mostly hard-toothed characters with militaristic attitudes, albeit varied. So I romanced her, assuming her social ineptitude was where Bioware planned to develop her character in the following games, a fair idea.

But then in the first encounter you have with her in Mass Effect 2, she's using intimidation tactics against a customer of hers that shows a completely different and unrecognizable side of her. Now it's not the suddenness of the change of character that bothered me. Indeed, even if they had shown it, as they did to a degree in the Redemption comic, it still wouldn't have solved the problem I had: Liara's character arc is completely separate from her interactions with Shepard! Nothing Shepard says, does, or shares with her shows any sign of changing who she is at heart. I know one could rationalize that Shepard still had a hand in her development because it was their death that forced her to act, but this is Mass Effect 2, where you're surrounded by characters that grow and mature thanks to your direct help with their personal demons, and knowing Liara was just sitting there at her desk the whole time without bothering to acknowledge any of the feelings between them was just insulting as the player. Even Ashley/Kaiden reacted appropriately, given their personalities, and most importantly, the game acknowledged that they were overreacting. All in all, I was very disappointed by the distance that had grown between Shepard and Liara in a manner that nobody but me seemed to notice.

With that said, I'm very thankful that Bioware finally released Lair of the Shadow Broker, which continued the personal story between the two of them and progressed their personalities synonymously, rather than separately. At any rate, it was enough to keep faithful to that relationship. I just hope that for Mass Effect 3 Bioware doesn't repeat the same mistake.

Modifié par u2rocksbaby, 22 janvier 2012 - 05:12 .

[mcsupersport]

While for Shepard the time was instant, the characters otherwise went through 2 years and in the case of Liara, two pretty stressful years. Think about this from an outside view, Liara in 2ish years went from a recluse, to part of a team that battled against the destruction of the Galaxy, lost her idol/love interest, rescued his/her body at great personal cost and danger, lost a person she felt responsible for in doing the latter and was currently in "battle" against a seemingly omnipotent entity not known for being gentle. The threat she was issuing was almost a direct quote from her mother, which tells me she was using the strongest and most dangerous "template" she knew to get what she was owed, and you can see her change as you say hi, like she was dropping a facade or act. Personally I would have been greatly disappointed in Bioware, if you DIDN'T see a fairly remarkable change in her maturity from 1 - 2, considering the story arc they had given her. If you don't think going through what she did, would change you, then you really don't understand the stress factors she went through.

[u2rocksbaby]

Like I said, I had no problem with who Liara is now or even HOW those changes came about. My problem is that you, the main character, had no hand in it. Sure, Shepard spent two years dead, but that was Bioware's choice too, and I for one feel they could have facilitated their relationship with Liara a lot better even within that limitation, so that the player could feel the sense of fulfillment that I did when Miranda finally met her sister again, or when Grunt completed his manhood ritual, or when Jack exacted her vengeance on the facility that scarred her for life.

Modifié par u2rocksbaby, 22 janvier 2012 - 05:44 .

[Darkov]

I think Shepard had a massive effect on Liara, you may not have personally been in control of that change, but Shepard was at the heart of it the whole time.

Whilst Liara was my LI in the first game, I was happy with how things turned out in the end of ME2, she had moved on, albeit forced, and I had moved on as well.