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so now we have to pay 120+ dollars to get extra dlc


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Bio's not going to tell us what their deal with the figurine manufacturer is. Conceivably, the deal could require that the DLC not be sold separately, or at least held off the market for a while. If I was making the figures, that's what I'd want. The whole point of having DLC with the figures is to sell the figures, so the manufacturer of the figures wants the DLC to be unavailable elsewhere.

most of us are adults why would we want a childs toy?


How many children are you aware of that play Mass Effect?
There's an adult market for merchandise and collectibles. It's been around for as long as these things have existed. Join us in the present, won't you?
Toys based on Mass Effect, while you could give them to a child, kids really aren't their target market.

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There's no way that I'm the only person who finds it hilarious to see people speak on how childish and frivolous toys are while they play video games and post on message boards about video games.

I mean... really?

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So I have to pay over 270 dollars for a bunch of "dolls" on top of my preorder in order to get the full ME3 experience?

No thanks. Preorder canceled. I'll buy it used or just rent it.

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Iamnotahater wrote...

So I have to pay over 270 dollars for a bunch of "dolls" on top of my preorder in order to get the full ME3 experience?

No thanks. Preorder canceled. I'll buy it used or just rent it.


Good luck with that.

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There's no way that I'm the only person who finds it hilarious to see people speak on how childish and frivolous toys are while they play video games and post on message boards about video games.

I mean... really?

The games we're talking about on this board are all rated 18+. Videogames are not just for kids anymore, you know.

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well i'd like to know whos screwing me otherwise its just rape.


oooooook.

So, if I understand correctly, you are equating giving a reward to people who buy the figures to rape?

Please tell me I understand your point. Image IPB

i take it you were having a slash when they were handing out brains?
most adults dont want to buy toys so BW are adding dlc to them did you even read my other posts?

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Brownfinger wrote...

There's no way that I'm the only person who finds it hilarious to see people speak on how childish and frivolous toys are while they play video games and post on message boards about video games.

I mean... really?


Yes I'm guessing these toys come in clear case boxs like most collectables I've grown up around collectors they never open the boxs as it runis said collectables...... so how are they going to get the code??? who is this rewarding?

Edit: that being said I'm just guessing you understand most gamers are not going to buy these toys just for dlc....

Modifié par RDSFirebane, 23 janvier 2012 - 09:43 .


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Iamnotahater wrote...

So I have to pay over 270 dollars for a bunch of "dolls" on top of my preorder in order to get the full ME3 experience?

No thanks. Preorder canceled. I'll buy it used or just rent it.


Tell me another joke.

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rolson00 wrote...

i take it you were having a slash when they were handing out brains?


LOL. Says the dude equating a reward promotion to rape.

No. I didn't read your other posts. Your first two were sufficiently absurd.Image IPB

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I'm almost 50% sure that this DLC will be released to the public via Marketplace or how ever Origin handles it within a week or two of the games release. If you think back to ME2 and a number of recent games (especially those released for Microsoft, i.e. Gears of War) a large amount of DLC that was only available at certain retailers or other means was eventually up for sale standalone.

I don't know if Bioware would do this, but I'm willing to bet it will happen.

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AlanC9 wrote...

CannonLars wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

This is exactly what I was talking about:

CannonLars wrote...
Unless I am just missing the point.;) And I'm very serious. I love this series. I have three lithographs hanging on my wall, the books, the collector's editions, etc., but no figurines. Figurines aren't my thing, but they will have to be my pricey thing if I ever hope to have the full range of ME3 content. That stings me and maybe that is my problem, but it comes from loving your series. I can't imagine I am the only one with this problem.


Lars, you're making the case for exclusive content here.


I bought my stuff with no DLC exclusives attached...


I bolded the part where you make DLC exclusives sound like a good plan. Sounds like they'll make you consider buying the figurines when you wouldn't have otherwise.

If you don't really mean this stuff, you shouldn't post it.


But I didn't say I'd be willing to buy them. I said what I would have to do. Not what I would do.

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Brownfinger wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Bio's not going to tell us what their deal with the figurine manufacturer is. Conceivably, the deal could require that the DLC not be sold separately, or at least held off the market for a while. If I was making the figures, that's what I'd want. The whole point of having DLC with the figures is to sell the figures, so the manufacturer of the figures wants the DLC to be unavailable elsewhere.

most of us are adults why would we want a childs toy?


How many children are you aware of that play Mass Effect?
There's an adult market for merchandise and collectibles. It's been around for as long as these things have existed. Join us in the present, won't you?
Toys based on Mass Effect, while you could give them to a child, kids really aren't their target market.



but still toys :huh:

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nelly21 wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

i take it you were having a slash when they were handing out brains?


LOL. Says the dude equating a reward promotion to rape.

No. I didn't read your other posts. Your first two were sufficiently absurd.Image IPB


ok ok that maybe wasnt my best comment  but i still feel violated just reading it and i have no plans to even buy them

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So that means if I want mission for my ME2 squad I must buy all this sh**?

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They'll release it for download to everyone on the near future, chill out.

Modifié par felipejiraya, 23 janvier 2012 - 09:48 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

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I don't know, it really does seem to be about the principle of the thing here Chris. You(Bioware) should know that your community has completionists, just like any other, and to them surely this is some sort of slap in the face. Where it was merely Dr Pepper cans(again, America, nowhere else) now it's action figures. The cost of buying in seems to go higher with each game.

I call this a slippery slope, and who knows what marketing will want us to buy in the future to get the "complete" experience, because it's all well and good to say that your core experience isn't affected, but just as Zaeed and Kasumi weren't integral to ME 2, the experience would have been poorer without them.


Well, the other side of this coin is that we should deny free DLC items to those people who aren't completionists, but do support our products by buying toys, art, comics, etc. While I know there are completionists out there, there are far more of the other people, who aren't completionists, but buy a single or couple of pieces they are interested in. And I think it is better to reward thos people, who may also include the completionists, than exclude them because they are not completionists.



Personally I think the reward should be the purchase itself.

That said - Do you reward people who buy ME3 with a discount on the figures?

If you're going to have rewards for people to support your products, it should work both ways, all ways and every which way.

That way I can get the game, get the figures, get the DLC and save moolah. Seems a better reward system personally and you score extra sales.

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RDSFirebane wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

There's no way that I'm the only person who finds it hilarious to see people speak on how childish and frivolous toys are while they play video games and post on message boards about video games.

I mean... really?


Yes I'm guessing these toys come in clear case boxs like most collectables I've grown up around collectors they never open the boxs as it runis said collectables...... so how are they going to get the code??? who is this rewarding?

Edit: that being said I'm just guessing you understand most gamers are not going to buy these toys just for dlc....


No, I'm willing to bet that there are enough sad, uptight people that just can't help themselves, no matter how hypocritically opposed they are to toys.

I dunno what collectors you grew up around, but not everyone is into their hobby for money. I'm opening mine up.

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this is kind of funny. there is a good chance ill buy these because i dont want to miss any of the story, unless i find out that its not worth it. it kind of sucks, though, how expensive they are, especially considering i dont think they really even look that good. im not gonna hate for companies trying to sell a product and make money, even if the tactics of capitalizing on someone's loyalty are a little unsavory.

if i get these, i am prlly gonna laugh every time i look at them. im gonna feel so weird, as a guy in his twenties buying toys. this reminds me of the movie, "the forty year old virgin," collecting toys, which is, once again, funny to think about.....................

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I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.

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King Minos wrote...

I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.


I was a Gundam man, myself. Loved the show, the movie, the toys. Great stuff.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

I don't know, it really does seem to be about the principle of the thing here Chris. You(Bioware) should know that your community has completionists, just like any other, and to them surely this is some sort of slap in the face. Where it was merely Dr Pepper cans(again, America, nowhere else) now it's action figures. The cost of buying in seems to go higher with each game.

I call this a slippery slope, and who knows what marketing will want us to buy in the future to get the "complete" experience, because it's all well and good to say that your core experience isn't affected, but just as Zaeed and Kasumi weren't integral to ME 2, the experience would have been poorer without them.


Well, the other side of this coin is that we should deny free DLC items to those people who aren't completionists, but do support our products by buying toys, art, comics, etc. While I know there are completionists out there, there are far more of the other people, who aren't completionists, but buy a single or couple of pieces they are interested in. And I think it is better to reward thos people, who may also include the completionists, than exclude them because they are not completionists.






I don't expect a "reward" (if this sales incentive plan counts as that) out of you for buying your products, I just believed that I would have reasonable access to all the products I, and many others are interested in. I have bought multiple specialty items (books, lithos, etc.) relating to Mass Effect and none of them included DLC, nor was that the concern because I am already a person interested in those things. So I bought them. They were specialty products and I would still find this practice to be a poor decision if that DLC had been exclusively packaged with specialty items that I was interested in.

I don't see how exclusively attaching DLC to niche merchandise is anything more than an ill-placed sales incentive. The purchasers of such products are not being excluded from DLC access if they are offered the chance to download it from the marketplace along with the rest of the fans who are interested in the content and not the figurines. The people being excluded when it comes to this DLC are anyone who hopes to get certain pieces from this DLC set and instead are told they have a random chance by purchasing a figurine that some real figurine fan would have bought, but DLC-fan wouldn't have.

I'd feel pretty dang rewarded at this point if I was told that at some point we could download the content without ordering a figurine. Then us completionists, those figurine collector's, and the just-plain-don't-cares would all have access and would be satisfied on this issue. I'd take a chance for everyone to buy all the DLC over getting it with a relatively expensive figurine set. Are the figurine purists really saying they won't buy them if you don't reward them? Because if they aren't, know that there are a bunch of us sitting out in the rain wishing we could buy the DLC instead of getting wild amounts of exclusive deals flying around left and right from you guys.

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King Minos wrote...

I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.


So why do you still play computer games at *insert own age here* and post on an internet game forum with an avatar of a fluffy walking talking tiger?

Modifié par Icinix, 23 janvier 2012 - 10:09 .


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I'm almost 50% sure that this DLC will be released to the public via Marketplace or how ever Origin handles it within a week or two of the games release. If you think back to ME2 and a number of recent games (especially those released for Microsoft, i.e. Gears of War) a large amount of DLC that was only available at certain retailers or other means was eventually up for sale standalone.

Not all of it :(

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Icinix wrote...

King Minos wrote...

I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.


So why do you still play computer games at *insert own age here* and post on an internet game forum with an avatar of a fluffy walking talking tiger?


Computer games are not toys, some video-games have a target audience for adults. I fit that criteria.

18+  games are not for children.

The fluffy Tiger is wearing a clothing, signs of a intelligent being. And Tigers are graceful creatures.

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King Minos wrote...

I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.

I loved these! I had 9 figures or so... Including this huge Exo-Toah thing (I think thats the name).