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[AlanC9]

What was the Dr. Pepper promotional content? I remember that it existed, but I don't remember giving a damn about it or even what it was.

[Gatt9]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
I'm sorry but the argument that all DLC is stuff ripped from the base game is a bit dated.  These items were never in the game, they were concieved of for promotional purposes.  Why would you worry yourself for a few extra guns anyway?

Generally, it's because people want everything, but don't want to have to work at it or pay for it. I get it, sure, but everyone has to make their own decision to buy or not buy any product, no matter what it is. The fact that DLC, microtransactions, and subscription based content is now forcing people to either make more of those decisions or make them more often.

Trust me. If consumers didn't demonstrate a general enthusiasm for buying content in this fashion, it wouldn't be used so often. But companies do it because it works. And it works because companies offer it. You can feel free to object to the practice by simply choosing not to buy in that way, and if enough people do that, then maybe it would become unpopular and the practice will eventually stop. That's the power you have as a consumer.

1.  The items are in the game.  Study computers for awhile.  They finish these things in parallel with the game,  test it in parallel,  and 5 years ago,  it would've been in the game.  Today they leave it out to charge you more money to get the whole game. 

2.  No,  generally it's because you're leaving whole parts out of the game in order to charge consumers more money to get the same thing they previously received.  It's not being "Cheap",  as you insinuate.  Trying to claim I'm cheap because I don't think I should have to pay extra to get the whole game that's available on the day of release is pretty bad form.

3.  You can't seriously be trying to claim that there's a huge market clamoring for statues with DLC codes attached to them are you?  

Know what'll make your studio obsolete faster than leaving out chunks of the game and demanding the consumers pay extra for it?

Insulting them for not buying it.

Not a good way to try and sell your products,  leaving parts of your product out,  demanding extra money for it,  and insulting customers for complaining about it.

But that's ok,  I've found a way for both of us to be happy.  Mass Effect 3 will be the last Bioware product I purchase.  I'll give my money to companies that want to sell me whole games,  and companies that don't insult me.

Modifié par Gatt9, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:55 .

[Brownfinger]

dcal31 wrote...


I think you just made the arguement agaist yourself, since the Dr. Pepper promotional content was never released to a majority of game owners, only the PS3 version.

Are you sure about that?



I'm confused. As I recall, I had no trouble getting mine for the Xbox version.

[Revelat0]

AlanC9 wrote...

What was the Dr. Pepper promotional content? I remember that it existed, but I don't remember giving a damn about it or even what it was.

The Umbra Visor, Recon Hood, and Sentry Interface were the items you could receive from codes you could find on marked bottles of Dr. Pepper.

[Darth_Trethon]

Brownfinger wrote...

dcal31 wrote...


I think you just made the arguement agaist yourself, since the Dr. Pepper promotional content was never released to a majority of game owners, only the PS3 version.

Are you sure about that?



I'm confused. As I recall, I had no trouble getting mine for the Xbox version.

You completely missed the point.....the only way to get it was from buying Dr. Pepper and by redeeming their promo codes. It was never sold separately on XBL or for the PC so those that don't have it now will never have it.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:01 .

[Brownfinger]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

dcal31 wrote...


I think you just made the arguement agaist yourself, since the Dr. Pepper promotional content was never released to a majority of game owners, only the PS3 version.

Are you sure about that?



I'm confused. As I recall, I had no trouble getting mine for the Xbox version.

You completely missed the point.....the only way to get it wa from buying Dr. Pepper and by redeeming their promo codes. It was never sold separately on XBL or for the PC so those that don't have it now will never have it.

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

Modifié par Brownfinger, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:08 .

[Xerxes52]

So, have we gotten word about what these eight or so content items are?

[Darth_Trethon]

Brownfinger wrote...

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

I have mine and you are missing the point again....that promotion was not available in many countries, as I remember only North America had it.

[Darth_Trethon]

Xerxes52 wrote...

So, have we gotten word about what these eight or so content items are?

No, we only know it's multiplayer DLC, that's it.

[CannonO]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

I have mine and you are missing the point again....that promotion was not available in many countries, as I remember only North America had it.

Brownfinger is ignoring the point, which is that for whatever reason someone couldn't  or wouldn't get it through the exclusive means, those people now never get to have the content. It was never made available to the many who hoped or needed to get it later. Same thing as these figurines. For whatever personal reasons prevent someone getting them with the DLC, that doesn't make it right that they can never get to the content later by another method outside of the exclusive and unusual offer.

[Darth_Trethon]

CannonLars wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

I have mine and you are missing the point again....that promotion was not available in many countries, as I remember only North America had it.

Brownfinger is ignoring the point, which is that for whatever reason someone couldn't  or wouldn't get it through the exclusive means, those people now never get to have the content. It was never made available to the many who hoped or needed to get it later. Same thing as these figurines. For whatever personal reasons prevent someone getting them with the DLC, that doesn't make it right that they can never get to the content later by another method outside of the exclusive and unusual offer.

The figurinnes are for an M rated game and the DLC seems like a far fetched weak attempt at increasing sales....due to ammount of it as well as it not being marketed as exclussive to the figurines and the price of it with figurines I am inclined to think we will see it sold separately via XBL and so on.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:19 .

[Stanley Woo]

Gatt9 wrote...

1.  The items are in the game.  Study computers for awhile.  They finish these things in parallel with the game,  test it in parallel,  and 5 years ago,  it would've been in the game.  Today they leave it out to charge you more money to get the whole game.

11 years in the industry and shipped 10 major releases and/or expansion packs, and several DLC packages. in fact, Neverwinter Nights was experimenting with DLC-like content with their Live Team and Premium Modules. People seemed to like it quite a lot! And that was 2005 or 2006 (6 or 7 years ago), so I will have to disagree that the same content that would have been in the game 5 years ago is the same content being pushed out in DLC now. The "whole game / whole experience" argument falls flat when you consider that a) there's no such thing, the way you describe it, and people seem to not have the same objection to expansion packs or sequels.

The game is whole upon release. DLC is "extra" content over and above the whole, complete game. Whether it's paid DLC or free DLC or day 1 DLC, it is content that you could complete the entire game without, if you chose to do so. DLC is always optional.

2.  No,  generally it's because you're leaving whole parts out of the game in order to charge consumers more money to get the same thing they previously received.  It's not being "Cheap",  as you insinuate.  Trying to claim I'm cheap because I don't think I should have to pay extra to get the whole game that's available on the day of release is pretty bad form.

I suggested that people "don't want to pay the money," not that they were cheap. there was no insinuation. I meant what I said and I said what I meant. This is an adjunct to your first point, so I have nothing more to say about that.

3.  You can't seriously be trying to claim that there's a huge market clamoring for statues with DLC codes attached to them are you?

Who knows? I haven't seen this kind of thing before, specifically, but people loooooooooove DLC and they looooooooove free things, and they seem to looooooooove Mass Effect. So at least someone in some marketing division believes that there's a potential market out there. Study marketing and economics for awhile.

Know what'll make your studio obsolete faster than leaving out chunks of the game and demanding the consumers pay extra for it?

Insulting them for not buying it.

Not a good way to try and sell your products,  leaving parts of your product out,  demanding extra money for it,  and insulting customers for complaining about it.

Informing you that you still retain the right to choose whether to purchase a game or not isn't insulting anyone, though some folks will take anything I say to be insulting.

Gatt9, I have seen your pessimism, negativity, and general sourpussedness in many threads discussing many different subjects. You've been arguing and raising a fuss for days. So you either believe me or you don't. If you believe me, great, we can disagree like gentlemen. If you don't believe me, then we can't really have any kind of discussion, now, can we? You'd be implying I'm lying and I'd be talking to a stone wall.

But that's ok,  I've found a way for both of us to be happy.  Mass Effect 3 will be the last Bioware product I purchase.  I'll give my money to companies that want to sell me whole games,  and companies that don't insult me.

But if you're buying Mass Effect 3, you're implying very strongly that you will, albeit reluctantly, still give money to companies that will sell you partial games and that insult you... aren't you?

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

But that's ok,  I've found a way for both of us to be happy.  Mass Effect 3 will be the last Bioware product I purchase.  I'll give my money to companies that want to sell me whole games,  and companies that don't insult me.

It seems you understand the exact point he was making:

Stanley Woo wrote...

Generally, it's because people want everything, but don't want to have to work at it or pay for it. I get it, sure, but everyone has to make their own decision to buy or not buy any product, no matter what it is. The fact that DLC, microtransactions, and subscription based content is now forcing people to either make more of those decisions or make them more often.

Trust me. If consumers didn't demonstrate a general enthusiasm for buying content in this fashion, it wouldn't be used so often. But companies do it because it works. And it works because companies offer it. You can feel free to object to the practice by simply choosing not to buy in that way, and if enough people do that, then maybe it would become unpopular and the practice will eventually stop. That's the power you have as a consumer.

Modifié par Il Divo, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:23 .

[Ramus Quaritch]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Optional or bonus DLC is just that, optional.

I see this complaint a lot and I'm sorry, I do not find it valid. We are not focing you to buy figures or books or whatever to get DLC. We are providing a bonus for those people who buy these tems.

If we were scummy enough to do something like "the only way to finish ME3 is to buy 4 figures, a desktop Normandy, a rifle replica and send me 50 bucks" or whatever, THEN this would be a valid complaint. However, we are NOT doing this.

If you want a Garrus figure, great. You get a little something extra to use in game because you are  fan and you like our products. It is a small reward. If you don't want a Garrus figure, no problem. You get to keep your money and you can still play Mass Effect 3 unimpaired by not having this DLC.

As a customer, and I don't know how many people I speak for, my issue is not with the fact that you're offering microtransactions.  It's the fact that they are being offerend in this manner (e.g. buying an expensive toy) and the fear that this DLC will be exclusive to the toys.  If the promotional DLCs, like the DLCs for these toys, were to be available for purchase on Xbox live or Origin at a later date, then that would be very fair.  Rockstar, amongst other companies, does this to reward fans for preordering and investing in the game and it has been very well received.  Maybe if there was some word on that, this thread would die and people would stop complaining about it.

[Icinix]

Brownfinger wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

dcal31 wrote...


I think you just made the arguement agaist yourself, since the Dr. Pepper promotional content was never released to a majority of game owners, only the PS3 version.

Are you sure about that?

*snip pic*

I'm confused. As I recall, I had no trouble getting mine for the Xbox version.

You completely missed the point.....the only way to get it wa from buying Dr. Pepper and by redeeming their promo codes. It was never sold separately on XBL or for the PC so those that don't have it now will never have it.

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

Well - for the other 6 billion people outside of America - getting them was difficult.

It was just fortunate the codes were identical and able to be activated on the website from anywhere in the world - otherwise the number of people who got it would be far, far lower.

However - that was more accidental than by design I imagine.

[Brownfinger]

CannonLars wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

So? Yeah, because Dr. Pepper was such a rare commodity at that time. Extremely difficult to track down.
My heart goes out to those who soldiered on without their extra headgear. You're the real heroes.

I
have mine and you are missing the point again....that promotion was not
available in many countries, as I remember only North America had it.

Brownfinger
is ignoring the point, which is that for whatever reason someone
couldn't  or wouldn't get it through the exclusive means, those people
now never get to have the content. It was never made available to the
many who hoped or needed to get it later. Same thing as these figurines.
For whatever personal reasons prevent someone getting them with the
DLC, that doesn't make it right that they can never get to the content
later by another method outside of the exclusive and unusual offer.

For a "weak attempt" to increase sales, I certainly see enough people whining about "having" to buy them. That indicates increased sales to me.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that maybe they want to reward people who wanted these items for all the ridiculous crap (delays, cancellations) they had to suffer through due to the ineptitude of DC Direct? In the end, yes, if you can bump sales by adding an extra gun skin for people to frantically dive off a cliff like lemmings for, then it's smart to do that. But, Bioware clearly listens to and appreciates its fans, you can't really refute that. Maybe this was also a bonus to offer some kind of thanks. I know this is a cynical "glass half empty" sort of crowd, but I tend to view things from the opposing perspective.

Also, isn't eBay localized in over 30 countries? My girlfriend wanted a Recon Hood for her Infiltrator long after the promotion had ended, so she purchased a code for one on eBay for 75 cents. I'm fairly sure that's as tiny an amount in other countries as it is in this one.

Modifié par Brownfinger, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:30 .

[AlanC9]

Gatt9 wrote...
1.  The items are in the game.  Study computers for awhile.  They finish these things in parallel with the game,  test it in parallel,  and 5 years ago,  it would've been in the game. 

You know this.... how? The fact that they work on extra items in parallel with the main game simply doesn't mean that in some parallel universe without DLC that exact same content would have been created and put in the main game.

I mentioned the BG portraits upthread for a reason. If we had had DLC back then, and Bio had sold more portraits as DLC, people would be arguing that the extra portraits had been cut from the game.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:37 .

[AlanC9]

Revelat0 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

What was the Dr. Pepper promotional content? I remember that it existed, but I don't remember giving a damn about it or even what it was.

The Umbra Visor, Recon Hood, and Sentry Interface were the items you could receive from codes you could find on marked bottles of Dr. Pepper.

Thanks.

And, meh. If I miss things like this by not getting these figurines...... I won't notice.

[Ultimate_Kardas]

King Minos wrote...

I don't know why people even buy toys after they have gone through puberty. I stopped playing with all my toys, including my amazing collection of Bionicle's at 12.

I'm 17 (18 in May) and I have at least over 100. I periodically make my own creations as well. I'd probably still be bying them if they made new ones, but unfortunately the line ended.
It's kind of a rude thing to say, that's all. I know I'm in the minority, but still.

[CannonO]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

1.  The items are in the game.  Study computers for awhile.  They finish these things in parallel with the game,  test it in parallel,  and 5 years ago,  it would've been in the game.  Today they leave it out to charge you more money to get the whole game.

11 years in the industry and shipped 10 major releases and/or expansion packs, and several DLC packages. in fact, Neverwinter Nights was experimenting with DLC-like content with their Live Team and Premium Modules. People seemed to like it quite a lot! And that was 2005 or 2006 (6 or 7 years ago), so I will have to disagree that the same content that would have been in the game 5 years ago is the same content being pushed out in DLC now. The "whole game / whole experience" argument falls flat when you consider that a) there's no such thing, the way you describe it, and people seem to not have the same objection to expansion packs or sequels.

The game is whole upon release. DLC is "extra" content over and above the whole, complete game. Whether it's paid DLC or free DLC or day 1 DLC, it is content that you could complete the entire game without, if you chose to do so. DLC is always optional.

2.  No,  generally it's because you're leaving whole parts out of the game in order to charge consumers more money to get the same thing they previously received.  It's not being "Cheap",  as you insinuate.  Trying to claim I'm cheap because I don't think I should have to pay extra to get the whole game that's available on the day of release is pretty bad form.

I suggested that people "don't want to pay the money," not that they were cheap. there was no insinuation. I meant what I said and I said what I meant. This is an adjunct to your first point, so I have nothing more to say about that.

3.  You can't seriously be trying to claim that there's a huge market clamoring for statues with DLC codes attached to them are you?

Who knows? I haven't seen this kind of thing before, specifically, but people loooooooooove DLC and they looooooooove free things, and they seem to looooooooove Mass Effect. So at least someone in some marketing division believes that there's a potential market out there. Study marketing and economics for awhile.

Know what'll make your studio obsolete faster than leaving out chunks of the game and demanding the consumers pay extra for it?

Insulting them for not buying it.

Not a good way to try and sell your products,  leaving parts of your product out,  demanding extra money for it,  and insulting customers for complaining about it.

Informing you that you still retain the right to choose whether to purchase a game or not isn't insulting anyone, though some folks will take anything I say to be insulting.

Gatt9, I have seen your pessimism, negativity, and general sourpussedness in many threads discussing many different subjects. You've been arguing and raising a fuss for days. So you either believe me or you don't. If you believe me, great, we can disagree like gentlemen. If you don't believe me, then we can't really have any kind of discussion, now, can we? You'd be implying I'm lying and I'd be talking to a stone wall.

But that's ok,  I've found a way for both of us to be happy.  Mass Effect 3 will be the last Bioware product I purchase.  I'll give my money to companies that want to sell me whole games,  and companies that don't insult me.

But if you're buying Mass Effect 3, you're implying very strongly that you will, albeit reluctantly, still give money to companies that will sell you partial games and that insult you... aren't you?

I see that he got rather passionate in his statements. But....

 Mr. Woo.
Does this mean you are taking some of the legitimate concerns into account and passing them on to others who might improve the situation, or will they remain here on the boards and statistics, without consideration of customer's expressions, will be the factor used to decide that the business model is good? 

I think it is clear that in general, we like DLC. It has also been expressed that the biggest concern is that many of us will never get access to this content or even an option to. The exclusive deals with no information as to whether we will ever have access to other exclusive content is what is bugging many of us.

As someone who loves Mass Effect and has since long before the first game even released, I am not happy with the system of DLC releases, despite appreciating the content itself. I want content, but I don't appreciate being shown lots of exclusives that many of us can not reasonably obtain (like hoping to get all the DLC from the figures). You don't sound like you are considering the fact that we, as fans who do want content, do not have any options of getting the content besides these many exclusive routes. It would be no problem if we knew that in the coming months it would be made available for purchase (as Rockstar Games does, who, frankly gets way less complaints from what I have seen).

To this day, I am missing some ME2 exclusives because despite what I got from my CE and pre-ordering, I had a technical issue and was unable to access my pre-order exclusive content that I really was looking forward to. The DLC was a nice thing, the fact that not everyone gets to choose to have it or not is not so nice. 

I think his thoughts reflect this:

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

As a customer, and I don't know how many people I speak for, my issue is not with the fact that you're offering microtransactions.  It's the fact that they are being offerend in this manner (e.g. buying an expensive toy) and the fear that this DLC will be exclusive to the toys.  If the promotional DLCs, like the DLCs for these toys, were to be available for purchase on Xbox live or Origin at a later date, then that would be very fair.  Rockstar, amongst other companies, does this to reward fans for preordering and investing in the game and it has been very well received.  Maybe if there was some word on that, this thread would die and people would stop complaining about it.

Modifié par CannonLars, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:48 .

[RR1107]

Gatt9 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
I'm sorry but the argument that all DLC is stuff ripped from the base game is a bit dated.  These items were never in the game, they were concieved of for promotional purposes.  Why would you worry yourself for a few extra guns anyway?

Generally, it's because people want everything, but don't want to have to work at it or pay for it. I get it, sure, but everyone has to make their own decision to buy or not buy any product, no matter what it is. The fact that DLC, microtransactions, and subscription based content is now forcing people to either make more of those decisions or make them more often.

Trust me. If consumers didn't demonstrate a general enthusiasm for buying content in this fashion, it wouldn't be used so often. But companies do it because it works. And it works because companies offer it. You can feel free to object to the practice by simply choosing not to buy in that way, and if enough people do that, then maybe it would become unpopular and the practice will eventually stop. That's the power you have as a consumer.

1.  The items are in the game.  Study computers for awhile.  They finish these things in parallel with the game,  test it in parallel,  and 5 years ago,  it would've been in the game.  Today they leave it out to charge you more money to get the whole game. 

2.  No,  generally it's because you're leaving whole parts out of the game in order to charge consumers more money to get the same thing they previously received.  It's not being "Cheap",  as you insinuate.  Trying to claim I'm cheap because I don't think I should have to pay extra to get the whole game that's available on the day of release is pretty bad form.

3.  You can't seriously be trying to claim that there's a huge market clamoring for statues with DLC codes attached to them are you?  

Know what'll make your studio obsolete faster than leaving out chunks of the game and demanding the consumers pay extra for it?

Insulting them for not buying it.

Not a good way to try and sell your products,  leaving parts of your product out,  demanding extra money for it,  and insulting customers for complaining about it.

But that's ok,  I've found a way for both of us to be happy.  Mass Effect 3 will be the last Bioware product I purchase.  I'll give my money to companies that want to sell me whole games,  and companies that don't insult me.

1.  The items wouldn't have been put into the game if they weren't being created for distrubition as bonus DLC.  Most likely, the development of the DLC was "paid for" as part of the agreement with the toy company who is creating the toys in order to promote the toys.  Without the toys, the DLC items simply would never have existed because the developer would never have been paid to create them.

2.  Just because the item is created and available, doesn't mean that people should automatically receive it.  Take an automobile for instance.  A particular model may have an option for an In-dash navigation system.  If you purchase the vehicle option which does not have the navi system, often times the wiring for the system and the compartment which would contain it is present, and the navigation system exists in the manufacturer's inventory.  Would you be entitled to this navigation system just because the components are present, even though you only paid for the base model which does not include the navigation system?  Another example would be how certain CPU manufacturers fabricate processors which have more cores on them than you can actually access.  These processors are sold at a particular price because certain cores, while physically present on the die, are physically "disconnected" from the rest of the chip.  Just because those cores are there, should you have access to them, even though you paid for the chip which won't provide access to the remaining cores?

3.  There are people who collect things like these figures (or the Mass Effect comics, playing cards and statues), and will enjoy them.  Just because you aren't clamouring for Mass Effect figures is not a reflection on the demand for the figures in general.  The fact that Series 1 is being re-issued and that Series 2 will finally see production shows that there is infact demand for these toys.  Providing DLC as a promotional item may sway people towards buying them.  Cross-product promotions such as these are a strong ways of showing consumers all of the products available which relate to the main product, Mass Effect video games.  It's no different than buying a package of hot dogs and receiving an insert in the packaging promoting the buns.

Creating extra DLC such as this acutally makes some sense.  If you purchase Mass Effect 3, and enjoy the base game, but find that "DLC PACK 1" isn't worth your time or money, you can avoid paying the premium for that content, which you couldn't do if it was included in the base game at an increased price.  If you are interested in the base game, but not the Collectors Edition content, you can chose with your dollars and purchase only what you want.  However, if you are interested in the extra content, you are presented with the option of aquiring it instead of being forced to.  Things like these bundled DLC codes provide additional value to the anchor product to the consumer through purchasing of satelite products and are of value to everyone.  The consumer receives additinal value for the anchor product through the bonus DLC codes, the company producing the statues receives additional exposure to its target market (Mass Effect fans) and may increase the sales of their product, and the developer likely receives some form of marketing fee from the toy maker for creating the bonus DLC.

Modifié par RR1107, 24 janvier 2012 - 04:06 .

[Brownfinger]

RR1107 wrote...


3.  There are people who collect things like these figures (or the Mass Effect comics, playing cards and statues), and will enjoy them.  Just because you aren't clamouring for Mass Effect figures is not a reflection on the demand for the figures in general.  The fact that Series 1 is being re-issued and that Series 2 will finally see product shows that there is infact demand for these toys.  Providing DLC as a promotional item may sway people towards buying them.  Cross-product promotions such as these are a strong ways of showing consumers all of the products available which relate to the main product, Mass Effect video games.  It's no different than buying a package of hot dogs and receiving an insert in the packaging promoting the buns.

Eloquently stated, logically air tight, sans all of the indignation that these people deserve. Thank you.
It'll sail right over their heads, but the point is perfectly crafted.

Ultimately, we're all Mass Effect junkies in need of some fix. Except the dude who said he wouldn't buy any more Bioware products in the same paragraph that he stated his full intent to buy Mass Effect 3, all because someone was mean to him on a message board. That guy is clearly on his way out the door. Whether we get that fix through fiction, merchandise, or a completionist's drive to own every piece of Mass Effect DLC, I find all to be equally valid.
I just dunno why anyone would ever complain about "needing" to get any luxury item, that seems to defy all reason and logic behind having a hobby or interest to start with.

[Ricinator]

 This is pretty sick. First time i come back to the forums in days and see this crap. I was right to cancel my pre-order.

[TheJiveDJ]

I think most of us get the fact that we don't have to buy the trophies for a complete and fulfilling ME3 experience. We get that. I get that. I just hope that one day these DLC get put up on Xbox Live or something so I can find another excuse to give you my money. TAKE MY MONEY!! Wadda u think Chris/Stanley? Is this a possibility in the future?