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[Poison_Berrie]

Dewart wrote...

oh no I believe I quoted myself two times. Very very sorry I was sure I clicked edit but then I refreshed and this mess showed up. how exactly can I fix that. I'm still very new to the forums.

Not a lot, you can perhaps report it and ask for deletion.
Next time just edit the post with a:  "oops double post"

It happens.

[Darth_Trethon]

I think this deerves to be reposted just once because I don't remember ANYONE mentioning it and I think it is very important information to considder before anyone decides to waste hundreds of dollars on toy trash:

Hey everyone, more good news: the multiplayer DLC from the toys will only be supported on the 360 and PC as per: http://biowarestore....igure-four-pack

Oh and the codes are randomized indicating there are more DLCs than there are toys and which also happens to mean you may very well buy two toy packs for $150 and get duplicate items....isn't that great?

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:49 .

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Stanley Woo wrote...
Generally, it's because people want everything, but don't want to have to work at it or pay for it.

Do you mean work in-game, or work in a job? Because that totally changes the meaning of the sentense. In fact, I'd love to work in-game for weapons; I don't like to just be given stuff. I'd have been much happier with the ME2 items DLC if you had to beat a small mission to get them first.

Stanley Woo wrote...
people seem to not have the same objection to expansion packs or sequels.

Well that's not true. PC gamers love expansion packs, console gamers have no idea what an exapansion pack is. I don't remember people complaining that the city of Amaranthine was cut from Dragon Age Origins for Awakening, because it wasn't. :-P


Now, while I wanted to briefly talk about those things, and while I'm currently (really) miffed at the Origin thing, I'm going to back up BioWare on this one. Crosspromotion is a good way to keep a franchise healthy. WIthout it, oftentimes many really good products fly under the radar and those that stuck their necks out to offer them go unrewarded. No, that's not always what happens, but it is often. Crosspromotions allow more people to buy these items and discover their quality where they might not have expected it before, and been really happy about that decision. At the same time, since more copies were sold, BioWare (or EA, rather) sees increased licensing fees from those products, whcih they can put toward more DLC products. In other words, optimally, crosspromotion pays for itself and thus expands the total amount of content available for a game. If crosspromotion is successful to a certain degree, it can even pay for other DLC that you *can* download without the figures. Maybe they can hire on one more artist who will work on the next story DLC, for instance. Optimally, the same can be said for preorder bonuses and stuff like that.

Of course, this is all in an ideal world. Sometimes the profits just gets pocketed and none of it is reinvested into the franchise. Or sometimes the money might be wasted, like by being put toward some ineffective advertising campaign. I would have *loved* a crosspromotion on the Mass Effect books I purchased. I was barely convinced to buy the books, but it turned out that they were very good, whcih makes sense since they were by one of the main authors of Mass Effect (he's not working on the franchise anymore, is he?  ). These books were completely wonderful stories in their own right. Most ME fans would do well to buy these books or books like them, even if they only purchased for the DLC content. How awesome would they be if they had a short mission that was created with the extra money generated, and codes were printed into the books.

Now figures, though...? Uh... I pretty much doubt that I'd get that kind of enjoyment out of figures. IMO Cross-promotion wiht them is kinda silly because they're not wonderfull *experiences* in their own right. But I'll make that statement with my dollars. Also, the DLC is exclusive to North America? I live in North America, and that's kinda BS.

Modifié par Tony_Knightcrawler, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:51 .

[Dewart]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

Dewart wrote...

A few years ago having exclusive retailer DLC and taking in game weapons and selling them in packs as DLC would have been a "stupid" idea.

A yes the myth that all DLC is stuff that they just ripped out of the game. Seriously if you think that is the case you should just not buy the game and leave.
I have yet to play a game that actually properly handles these weapon DLC's (whether they are pre-order or bought later) as anything other than cheat items magickally granted to you.

You sound like a parrot showing that game companies damage control unfortunatly works. Although those items may not have been part of the original game there is no good reason why those items couldn't have been added to a dlc expansion like arrival.

Poison_Berrie wrote...

Dewart wrote...

Retailer exclusive DLC would have seemed like a crazy idea at that point, but now there are actually some people that will preorder two copies of a game just to get the dlc associated with each retailer. This industry is beginning to really exploit its customers.

No the customers are exploiting themselves with delusions that they need all that stuff.
They don't. I've barely used the pre-order content I got for ME2 and I certainly won't buy two editions of the game to get more of that stuff even if I did use it.

You don't think that game companies realize that customers are in fact exploiting themselves and seeing how much they can get as a result? It is the game companies right to do so but that is in fact exploiting the customer's weakness.

[Dewart]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I think this deerves to be reposted just once because I don't remember ANYONE mentioning it and I think it is very important information to considder before anyone decides to waste hundreds of dollars on toy trash:

Hey everyone, more good news: the multiplayer DLC from the toys will only be supported on the 360 and PC as per: http://biowarestore....igure-four-pack

Oh and the codes are randomized indicating there are more DLCs than there are toys and which also happens to mean you may very well buy two toy packs for $150 and get duplicate items....isn't that great?

good call I forgot to even mention that fact

[chengthao]

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

[Terror_K]

Personally, my main issue isn't that they're bundling DLC with the figures so much as the fact that they're not just doing it with the new, upcoming second series, but also with the re-release of the first series.

This means that fans who have already forked out for the original series of four will miss out unless they pay once again for another set of four. That seems an ironic middle-finger to a bunch of fans who were technically more likely to buy and collect the figures in the first place because they're fans of Mass Effect because there has been no indication that we can get these somehow without forking out for another four and it's just "too bad."

Why should your more dedicated fans be punished for buying the figures when they first came onto the scene (especially after all the delays it took to even get them in the first place!), while late adopters who may wait for a price drop or simply go, "Oooh, they come with a DLC! Maybe I will..." get rewarded? That just doesn't seem right to me: I've already paid and bought the things, but I miss out for being a big enough fan to get them straight away. I wouldn't mind giving a few extra dollars to get them separately, but buying more of something I already have is a frustrating and expensive non-option really.

[chengthao]

Stanley Woo wrote...
people seem to not have the same objection to expansion packs or sequels.

ppl have nothing against post-release content just pre-release content, pre-release content just seems like it could've already been put into the game or it seems like it was taken out of the game and re-packaged as paid DLC

[Dewart]

chengthao wrote...

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

That is really the whole reason for the debate going on. we don't know yet

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I think this deerves to be reposted just once because I don't remember ANYONE mentioning it and I think it is very important information to considder before anyone decides to waste hundreds of dollars on toy trash:

Hey everyone, more good news: the multiplayer DLC from the toys will only be supported on the 360 and PC as per: http://biowarestore....igure-four-pack

Oh and the codes are randomized indicating there are more DLCs than there are toys and which also happens to mean you may very well buy two toy packs for $150 and get duplicate items....isn't that great?

Wow...

[Dewart]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

Dewart wrote...

oh no I believe I quoted myself two times. Very very sorry I was sure I clicked edit but then I refreshed and this mess showed up. how exactly can I fix that. I'm still very new to the forums.

Not a lot, you can perhaps report it and ask for deletion.
Next time just edit the post with a:  "oops double post"

It happens.

Many thanks by the way. The problem has been corrected.

[Darth_Trethon]

chengthao wrote...

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

I am thinking 90% chances are yes because:

1) too expensive
2) too much of it
3) not available outside North AMerica
4) Not available for PS3 players
5) not many are likely to buy toys and EA would like more money after the toys are not being bought anymore
6) not marlked as DLC exclussive to these toys
7) all multiplayer content including characters

I am thinking it may not even be true DLC but codes to unlock things you would unlock anyway just by normally playing the multiplayer.....especially characters, seems too big to keep exclussive to worthless, overpriced toys.

[Dewart]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Generally, it's because people want everything, but don't want to have to work at it or pay for it.

Do you mean work in-game, or work in a job? Because that totally changes the meaning of the sentense. In fact, I'd love to work in-game for weapons; I don't like to just be given stuff. I'd have been much happier with the ME2 items DLC if you had to beat a small mission to get them first.

Stanley Woo wrote...
people seem to not have the same objection to expansion packs or sequels.

Well that's not true. PC gamers love expansion packs, console gamers have no idea what an exapansion pack is. I don't remember people complaining that the city of Amaranthine was cut from Dragon Age Origins for Awakening, because it wasn't. :-P


Now, while I wanted to briefly talk about those things, and while I'm currently (really) miffed at the Origin thing, I'm going to back up BioWare on this one. Crosspromotion is a good way to keep a franchise healthy. WIthout it, oftentimes many really good products fly under the radar and those that stuck their necks out to offer them go unrewarded. No, that's not always what happens, but it is often. Crosspromotions allow more people to buy these items and discover their quality where they might not have expected it before, and been really happy about that decision. At the same time, since more copies were sold, BioWare (or EA, rather) sees increased licensing fees from those products, whcih they can put toward more DLC products. In other words, optimally, crosspromotion pays for itself and thus expands the total amount of content available for a game. If crosspromotion is successful to a certain degree, it can even pay for other DLC that you *can* download without the figures. Maybe they can hire on one more artist who will work on the next story DLC, for instance. Optimally, the same can be said for preorder bonuses and stuff like that.

Of course, this is all in an ideal world. Sometimes the profits just gets pocketed and none of it is reinvested into the franchise. Or sometimes the money might be wasted, like by being put toward some ineffective advertising campaign. I would have *loved* a crosspromotion on the Mass Effect books I purchased. I was barely convinced to buy the books, but it turned out that they were very good, whcih makes sense since they were by one of the main authors of Mass Effect (he's not working on the franchise anymore, is he?  ). These books were completely wonderful stories in their own right. Most ME fans would do well to buy these books or books like them, even if they only purchased for the DLC content. How awesome would they be if they had a short mission that was created with the extra money generated, and codes were printed into the books.

Now figures, though...? Uh... I pretty much doubt that I'd get that kind of enjoyment out of figures. IMO Cross-promotion wiht them is kinda silly because they're not wonderfull *experiences* in their own right. But I'll make that statement with my dollars. Also, the DLC is exclusive to North America? I live in North America, and that's kinda BS.

See this idea with the books wouldn't have bothered me as much since I have purchased them. I would however still be voicing my opinion about this marketing tactic in the same way. cross promotion with maybe a fancy set of desktop wallpapers or a theme for you xbox or playstation console that would be fine but not in game items.

[Poison_Berrie]

Dewart wrote...

You sound like a parrot showing that game companies damage control unfortunatly works. Although those items may not have been part of the original game there is no good reason why those items couldn't have been added to a dlc expansion like arrival.

No I just understand what these items are made for.
I would prefer if they actually added various weapons to the DLC (and they did for the Kasumi DLC), but the point you made was that they made the game and then decided to cut out these weapons to become some pre-order incentive.

Poison_Berrie wrote...
You don't think that game companies realize that customers are in fact exploiting themselves and seeing how much they can get as a result? It is the game companies right to do so but that is in fact exploiting the customer's weakness.

Maybe they do.
But the pre-orders bonuses are mostly there to make the game succesfull before hand (it serves as an indication how popular the game can/will be so stores will buy more copies as well) and retailer-exclusiveness nets them extra money and an ensured number of copies sold to those retailers.
The explotation factor might play for certain marketing section of the publisher, but I doubt it would be large enough to be a primary factor in these matters.

[Dewart]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

chengthao wrote...

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

I am thinking 90% chances are yes because:

1) too expensive
2) too much of it
3) not available outside North AMerica
4) Not available for PS3 players
5) not many are likely to buy toys and EA would like more money after the toys are not being bought anymore
6) not marlked as DLC exclussive to these toys
7) all multiplayer content including characters

I am thinking it may not even be true DLC but codes to unlock things you would unlock anyway just by normally playing the multiplayer.....especially characters, seems too big to keep exclussive to worthless, overpriced toys.

I agree that it is likely things that you can unlock in game by playing but we don't know for sure, which is enough to spur a number (not a massive number) of people to buy a toy they didn't want in the first place. It would be doubley agrivationg for anyone who would run out and buy an (or all) action figure to find out they didn't need to in the first place.

[Dewart]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

Dewart wrote...

You sound like a parrot showing that game companies damage control unfortunatly works. Although those items may not have been part of the original game there is no good reason why those items couldn't have been added to a dlc expansion like arrival.

No I just understand what these items are made for.
I would prefer if they actually added various weapons to the DLC (and they did for the Kasumi DLC), but the point you made was that they made the game and then decided to cut out these weapons to become some pre-order incentive.

Poison_Berrie wrote...
You don't think that game companies realize that customers are in fact exploiting themselves and seeing how much they can get as a result? It is the game companies right to do so but that is in fact exploiting the customer's weakness.

Maybe they do.
But the pre-orders bonuses are mostly there to make the game succesfull before hand (it serves as an indication how popular the game can/will be so stores will buy more copies as well) and retailer-exclusiveness nets them extra money and an ensured number of copies sold to those retailers.
The explotation factor might play for certain marketing section of the publisher, but I doubt it would be large enough to be a primary factor in these matters.

I will state here as I have stated in a number of posts on this thread:

I was not driven to complain about the pre order bonus dlc. I was not driven to complain about the day one dlcs. I was not driven to complain about the exclusive retailer bonuses. I was never driven to complain about the weapons packs. I have bought into all of those to an extent for games I cherish (not so much to the point of buying two copies of a game from two retailers)

At this point in time this dlc with the action figures is going a little bit over the line. I'm usually a very passive person but this has finally driven me to complain. My thoughts are if this sort of thing is not stopped here what is next for the gaming industry. I'm starting to feel like a lab rat only they are testing to see how much useless junk I will buy to enjoy all the item options in a game I spent my hard earned money on. I almost didn't complain at this point since part of me feels it will do no good. Another part of me has seen enough posts on this (forum and others) where people seem quite worried and actually say they feel "forced" to buy the action figures. Now I myself do not feel forced to buy these toys (I definatly won't be doing so) I feel I must at least try to convey the though that no one should have to feel that way. The only way for things like this to stop here is if people don't buy into it simple as that.

[Iamnotahater]

Dewart wrote...

chengthao wrote...

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

That is really the whole reason for the debate going on. we don't know yet

The reason why people didn't have an objection to expansion packs is because back in the day they represented equal or greater value to the orginal game as the developers knew they had to compete for the shelf space of  newer titles in boxed retailers.

They were usually half as long for around 25-50% of the cost of the orginal game ($30, in some cases $15).

Nowadays, with digitial distribution developers can dice that content into a thousand pieces and market the same contents for double, triple, or even quadruple the cost. They can put in exclusive promotions like Dr Pepper, Figurines, movie tickets, etc. ME3 appears to set a new low by running the total in the hundreds of dollars. 

Consumers aren't stupid. They know when they are being shafted. They will still buy ME3 because it is one of the most anticipated games of the year. But at some point a straw is going to break the camels back and consumers are going to say enough is enough. 

Modifié par Iamnotahater, 24 janvier 2012 - 03:56 .

[Dewart]

Iamnotahater wrote...

Dewart wrote...

chengthao wrote...

do we know if we can get this DLC w/o having to buy these figurines?

That is really the whole reason for the debate going on. we don't know yet

The reason why people didn't have an objection to expansion packs is because back in the day they represented equal or greater value to the orginal game as the developers knew they had to compete for the shelf space of  newer titles in boxed retailers.

They were usually half as long for around 25-50% of the cost of the orginal game ($30, in some cases $15).

Nowadays, with digitial distribution developers can dice that content into a thousand pieces and market the same contents for double, triple, or even quadruple the cost. They can put in exclusive promotions like Dr Pepper, Figurines, movie tickets, etc. ME3 appears to set a new low by running the total in the hundreds of dollars. 

Consumers aren't stupid. They know when they are being shafted. They will still buy ME3 because it is one of the most anticipated games of the year. But at some point a straw is going to break the camels back and consumers are going to say enough is enough. 

Exactly the point I am trying to make on this thread. You just say it beautifully.
Enough is enough should come sooner than later.

This action figure business seems like a test to see how far we will go while the stakes are high (end of a trilogy)

edit: now I don't have as much a problem with chopping their content up and getting their money out of it. the exclusives part is the key point.

Do: Allow us you buy dlc without the gimmicks(toy) and give toy collectors a bonus at the same time.
Do: Offer everyone the opportunity to buy that DLC
Don't: Exclusive (exclude)

Modifié par Dewart, 24 janvier 2012 - 04:12 .

[ODST 5723]

The action figure business seems like a smart, solid promo that's being blown out of proportion by a few irrational, but vocal parties who want to key in factors that really aren't material to the discussion in order to perpetuate a sense of victimization if they can't obtain every piece of content.

Meanwhile, there are still material facts not yet in evidence to support or corroborate either position. Yet that vocal group insists on perpetuting the notion that this is something more than what it is. A low-cost promo from Bioware / Big Fish to sell some figures and to provide an in-game reward for that purchase.

The only people who have any real reason to feel shafted at this stage are the ones who purchased Series 1 when they were DC Direct figures and branded for ME2 who did not get any content, however that reason really that strong since there was never any content advertised or promised for those figures.

And consdiering that the figures will likely be out over a month after the game hits and is MP focused I'd venture that there should be more curiosity about the specifics and less whining. Unfortunately, the whining is drowning out the voice of those who have legitimate questions.


When can we expect more information?


What content packs are available?
-What's in them?
-How many are there?
-Does a set of 8 figures ensure that you'll obtain all the available pieces?


How does the randomization work?
-How many items are unlocked per code?
-Does this system accont for things you already have or can there be duplication?


Are they exclusive to the figures or will they be released separately?
-If separately, are they available on 360, PC & PS3?
-If separately, are they simply free unlocks from a tree of in-game options or are they bolt-on extras?


Are they earnable in-game and simply being unlocked early?
-If so, are they unlocked globally for all of your MP characters or only for certain characters?


I'm sure there's more questions. Perhaps we can push for those answers rather than complain about assumptions and speculation. Then, if we don't like the answers, complaining seems appropriate.

Modifié par ODST 5723, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:27 .

[JakePT]

I'm shocked that apparently something being optional or not necessary to complete the game is all that's needed for you to decide that it's perfectly ok to nickel and dime people for.

How long until every optional mission is removed from an upcoming game, and we're told "Doesn't matter, you can still beat the game" "It's optional, you don't have to buy it".

I have zero problem with DLC. I love the idea that once a game is out the studio can continue to work and put out more content. I'm even fine with maybe having some day-1 DLC to discourage used game sales, so long as it is free for new copies.

What I hate is this blatantly anti-consumer DLC that EA/BioWare has been indulging it lately. Namely the retailer exclusive stuff and this action figure stuff. Even if I accept paying more for weapons that could easily be included in the main game or something like Cerberus Network (which, by the way) was infinitely more consumer friendly than the DA2 and ME3 DLC. What I don't want is to be forced to buy toys to get all the content for the game.

Modifié par JakePT, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:32 .

[Forsythia]

Today I found a new entry in the Xbox Live Marketplace: US pre-order DLC for Battlefield 3, up for sale for everyone. See, EA knows how to do this! There is still hope!

[shakey123]

I wish people had courage to go through with their convictions and protest against crap like this. Im sick to death of buying £50 games and finding out that little bits of meat have been cut off my product and thrown around. This is unethical, fairplay producing significant content for after the game is released, but deliberately holding back content before the game is released is a joke. This whole DLC debarcle is retarded. Once developers loved their games and poured everything into them (BG2?), now they slowly dissect them and laugh at us as we pick up the pieces. I mean having to buy Dr pepper was a joke, now we have to buy figurines? What next toilet roll when we find out whether we got the arcturus station dlc by analysing what colour our faeces turned the loo roll.

Bring on the fanbois who mention is an option. I loved mass effect 1 and maybe i could of loved number 2 more if i had managed to order enough american dr pepper to find those dastardly codes.

Modifié par shakey123, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:51 .

[izmirtheastarach]

shakey123 wrote...

I wish people had courage to go through with their convictions and protest against crap like this. Im sick to death of buying £50 games and finding out that little bits of meat have been cut off my product and thrown around. This is unethical, fairplay producing significant content for after the game is released, but deliberately holding back content before the game is released is a joke. This whole DLC debarcle is retarded. Once developers loved their games and poured everything into them (BG2?), now they slowly dissect them and laugh at us as we pick up the pieces. I mean having to buy Dr pepper was a joke, now we have to buy figurines? What next toilet roll when we find out whether we got the arcturus station dlc by analysing what colour our faeces turned the loo roll.

I suspect that people who actually feel as entitled as you do, do in fact have the courage to not buy DLC. For the rest of us, who don't think everything belongs to us just because, giving a couple extra bucks to a developer we like isn't really that big a deal. I guess there are more of us then there are of you. Apologies.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:52 .

[Dewart]

ODST 5723 wrote...

The action figure business seems like a smart, solid promo that's being blown out of proportion by a few irrational, but vocal parties who want to key in factors that really aren't material to the discussion in order to perpetuate a sense of victimization if they can't obtain every piece of content.

Meanwhile, there are still material facts not yet in evidence to support or corroborate either position. Yet that vocal group insists on perpetuting the notion that this is something more than what it is. A low-cost promo from Bioware / Big Fish to sell some figures and to provide an in-game reward for that purchase.

The only people who have any real reason to feel shafted at this stage are the ones who purchased Series 1 when they were DC Direct figures and branded for ME2 who did not get any content, however that reason really that strong since there was never any content advertised or promised for those figures.

And consdiering that the figures will likely be out over a month after the game hits and is MP focused I'd venture that there should be more curiosity about the specifics and less whining. Unfortunately, the whining is drowning out the voice of those who have legitimate questions.


When can we expect more information?


What content packs are available?
-What's in them?
-How many are there?
-Does a set of 8 figures ensure that you'll obtain all the available pieces?


How does the randomization work?
-How many items are unlocked per code?
-Does this system accont for things you already have or can there be duplication?


Are they exclusive to the figures or will they be released separately?
-If separately, are they available on 360, PC & PS3?
-If separately, are they simply free unlocks from a tree of in-game options or are they bolt-on extras?


Are they earnable in-game and simply being unlocked early?
-If so, are they unlocked globally for all of your MP characters or only for certain characters?


I'm sure there's more questions. Perhaps we can push for those answers rather than complain about assumptions and speculation. Then, if we don't like the answers, complaining seems appropriate.

I can fully admit that I have been quite vocal of the subject. Perhaps too vocal hence leaving the thread for a little breather. I believe some of that is due to not understanding why people can see it as ok for a video game company to take this route (I see it as their rite to do so but not exactly good). As a result I made the mistake of getting a bit cranky and felt the need to defend my opinions. I apologize I did turn to the dark side for a bit.

I will say that I admire your post and thik it is well written and asks a number of questions that should definatly be asked. Your post gets to the main points and reasons why I joined this thread. I can plainley see that you are more articulate that I and have closer to a neutral stance. I think that even though I have been a bit of a loud mouth the tiny bit of good that came of that was to possibly help gain the intrest of one such as yourself.

fantastic post and even though I don't agree with you completely I think your opinion is a fantastic addition.

sorry to be a little over ambitious. I don't make a habit of being vocal but when I do... well you see the result (neutral is hard for me I work at it but...)

Modifié par Dewart, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:57 .

[ganthet2000]

ODST 5723 wrote...

The action figure business seems like a smart, solid promo that's being blown out of proportion by a few irrational, but vocal parties who want to key in factors that really aren't material to the discussion in order to perpetuate a sense of victimization if they can't obtain every piece of content.

Meanwhile, there are still material facts not yet in evidence to support or corroborate either position. Yet that vocal group insists on perpetuting the notion that this is something more than what it is. A low-cost promo from Bioware / Big Fish to sell some figures and to provide an in-game reward for that purchase.

The only people who have any real reason to feel shafted at this stage are the ones who purchased Series 1 when they were DC Direct figures and branded for ME2 who did not get any content, however that reason really that strong since there was never any content advertised or promised for those figures.

And consdiering that the figures will likely be out over a month after the game hits and is MP focused I'd venture that there should be more curiosity about the specifics and less whining. Unfortunately, the whining is drowning out the voice of those who have legitimate questions.


When can we expect more information?


What content packs are available?
-What's in them?
-How many are there?
-Does a set of 8 figures ensure that you'll obtain all the available pieces?


How does the randomization work?
-How many items are unlocked per code?
-Does this system accont for things you already have or can there be duplication?


Are they exclusive to the figures or will they be released separately?
-If separately, are they available on 360, PC & PS3?
-If separately, are they simply free unlocks from a tree of in-game options or are they bolt-on extras?


Are they earnable in-game and simply being unlocked early?
-If so, are they unlocked globally for all of your MP characters or only for certain characters?


I'm sure there's more questions. Perhaps we can push for those answers rather than complain about assumptions and speculation. Then, if we don't like the answers, complaining seems appropriate.

Voice of reason here. We do not know wha the DLC is people. Complianing abou something that you know nothing about is silly. They could be new skins for the Co-op, Joker no pants mode whatever. The point is that until Bioware and EA say something about it, it is pointless to complain about having to buy a 17 dollar action figure to get the whole game. Lots of companies do this with soda, snack foods, and whatever. I have zero problem with this cause they are in the business to make money. And this is what it takes to do just that. I will buy the ffigs if I think they are cool. The codes inside are just gravy to me. I have all the DLC for the other games I own and will continue to buy them. And yes I even got the Dr. Pepper codes and when I had extras I gave to some friends. Hey if I get double of a fig to modify I will let who wans it have the code inside. No big deal to me..