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Thank you for Dragon Age, Bioware <3


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katiebour

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 I don't post in the forums often, but I wanted to write up a post somewhere the folks at Bioware might actually see it.

To all of you awesome folks at Bioware-

Thank you for Dragon Age.  I started with Origins on the 360, recommended by a friend who swore up and down that if I loved Mass Effect (which I did) that I'd love Dragon Age (which I do.)  And while I love Origins, DA2 really brought the franchise to life for me.

Thank you for Oghren, Morrigan, Alistair, Wynne, Dog, Leliana, Wardens, shops like the Wonders of Thedas, cultists in Haven, Flemeth, darkspawn, Duncan, epic cut scenes, engaging gameplay, banter, romance, fantastic music that I still listen to and enjoy immensely.  Thank you especially for Zevran and Sten :D  Thank you for characters and a world that started me writing creatively for the first time in nearly two decades.  Thank you for making me wonder "what if?" and for characters that made me laugh, cry, and fall in love.  Thank you for making a wonderful fantasy game that feels gritty and real in ways that other franchises like Final Fantasy never did, for me.

Thank you for Sigrun, Nathaniel, and Justice.  Velanna and her clown ears, well, I won't look a gift elf in the mouth.  She might turn me into a tree XD

Thank you for Fenris, Isabela, Merrill, Varric, Aveline, Carver, Bethany, even Sebastian, and a host of beloved NPCs.  Thank you especially for Anders, one of the most amazing, broken, polarizing, maddening, loveable characters I've encountered in any game or book, ever.  Thank you for Jethann, and Serendipity, and dwarves that cower and exclaim "Sweet mother of partha!"

Thank you for Carta and Coterie and Dusters and Paragons, for Dalish elves, city elves, elven slaves, keepers, crafters, and surly guards.  Thank for for vhenadahl trees that serve double duty as public urinals for drunk elves.  XD  Thank you for templars, mages, merchants, ****s, scores of people with only a line or two that nevertheless tug at my imagination.  Thank you for Bodahn and Sandal, for Leandra and Gamlen, for family that you love, and family that you love to hate.  Thank you for Meredith, Orsino, and Cullen.  Thank you for characters that my friends and I have spent hours drawing, writing about, thinking about, daydreaming about, debating and loving as surely as many of us ever did about characters from books in school.  Thank you for a world map that tantalizes in its incompleteness, for hints of a mysterious Qunari/kossith homeland which we have yet to see, of other continents, countries, for Tevinter and Rivain and Nevarra and Antiva, places that we've only heard about but for which we wait to visit with bated breath.

Thank you for plots that made me laugh, or smack my forehead in consternation, or weep.  Sometimes all of the above, at the same time.  Thank you for a combat system and beautiful graphics that improve with each installment in the series.  Thank you for books that fill in the amazing world of Thedas, for comics, for the upcoming movie, for DLC and codex entries.  Thank you for making a game that I can play for the eighth or ninth time and still find things that I've never seen or heard before.  Thank you for taking the time to do the little things, like the codex entry for the completed quest "Grimoire of the Apprentice," which reads "Bonwald has his shopping list.  Tremble, oh Thedas."  It may be a silly little quest but I laugh every time I finish it, always checking the codex to grin over that line.

Thank you for creating a game where one person can say "Sarcastic!Hawke's lines are so ridiculous!  And Anders' romance dialogue is so cheesy!"  and then someone else chimes in "Well, Varric is telling the story, right?  So maybe it didn't happen that way at all and he's just making up something he thinks will sound good!"  And then I get a bit of banter when running around town where Varric asks how it really went down, and is met with a "I don't think that's any of your business."  To which our oh-so-reliable narrator snarkily replies, "Well, I'll just have to make it all up then."  And I /facepalm and laugh and love every moment of cheesy dialogue, never knowing if Anders is really that dramatic, or whether it's simply Varric's retelling.  XD

I love this universe- I love the games, the books, the comics, the amazing people that I meet who love it as much as I do.  You have put so much into these games- the lore, the codices, the characters, the voice acting, the art, the dialogue wheel that people love and/or love to hate, the radial menu, the tactics system.  I love the fact that I can play some very, very different games depending on what stance I choose for my Hawke.  I love that I met Lia in Act III for the first time in the 10 months I've been playing this game, simply because I went to the right place at the right time and took Aveline with me.

You guys do an amazing job, and no matter how vocal the haters are, there are a great many people out there who love DA:O, DA:A, and DA2.  Keep up the great work, and I promise to keep shelling out my money as fast as I can.

Thanks again for being awesome, and keep up the good work.  :wub:

#2
Stanley Woo

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Thanks for the love, katiebour (and others)! It's a game that I happen to like a lot, myself. Sure, i could, like some of your detractors here, point out what I didn't like about the game, but you took the time and effort to make a rather generous post of support and joy, and for that, I thank you.

And I find some of you "detractors" hijacking another thread like this and shutting out those who happen to like the game, the banhammer will be brought down. Hard.

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John Epler

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If you're civil in your disagreement, please, feel free to continue disagreeing. We've never banned someone for simple criticism or disagreement because, hey, that's what the forums are for - sharing your opinion in a respectful manner that contributes to a positive environment for discussion.

If you decide that the rules of civil discourse do not apply to you then, yes, you will probably be banned. Life is unfair. I suggest acceptance.

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John Epler

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alex90c wrote...

Morroian wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Posting things like "DA2 sucks", is what he means.


Well what's the point in explaining why I dislike a game when Bioware have heard the reason people may dislike DA2 a gazillion times already?

Whats the point in saying DA2 sucks a gazillion times? BW have got the message. 


Because I like expressing my disappointment with the game.


And if you add more than just 'DA2 sucks', you can continue to post, unencumbered!

But if you feel that what we've already outlined as acceptable forum behaviour doesn't apply to you please, continue down that road.  You may think you're making some grand point. You aren't. We deal with people in a fashion commensurate with how they deal with us. Respectful and constructive criticism will be met with respectful and constructive discussion. 'DA2 sucks' is neither of these things, and we've made it very clear what the consequences will be from this point forward.

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John Epler

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Kroitz wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
'DA2 sucks' is neither of these things, and we've made it very clear what the consequences will be from this point forward.


DA3?


Let's try this again.

If you choose to post constructively, you can stay.

If you think that scoring points in some bizarre game that only you're playing is more important than being constructive, you can take a short vacation.

This is not particularly onerous, nor is it difficult to remember. Let me know if I'm wrong on the latter point.

#6
John Epler

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devSin wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

Let's try this again.

If you choose to post constructively, you can stay.

If you think that scoring points in some bizarre game that only you're playing is more important than being constructive, you can take a short vacation.

Really? I thought it was wit.

I mean, maybe if it was one of the people going on and on with the pointless ragging on DA2, but isn't it still permissable for the odd person to wander by and make a joke at your expense every once in a while?

Because if you filter out the persistent nonsense, the reply did make me chuckle. You've got people arguing about arguing about arguing about the game; I'd much rather have the random silly person posting than the regurgitated discourse that's typically on the menu here.


And always, I admit that I'm not perfect, and sometimes I will react poorly. Given a year on the forums, I think it's understandable, even if I'm not suggesting I'm always in the right.

However, users get variable slack depending on their posting history. Intent does matter, and while it's difficult to judge intent from a single post, one's history on the forums tends to give us a reasonably good indication of what their intention is with a particular post.

And, it should also be mentioned that -where- you post something matters. If you're coming into a thread where you've been specifically cautioned against a particular kind of post, and then you make that post, well, my sympathy is somewhat more limited.