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[Leanansidhe]

The only thing I miss from Origins is the Bard specialization.
But Varric more than makes up for it!

Oh, and Alistair.  But he's in Fereldan, being all kingly, and making my Warden happy, so I'll forgive him.

[devSin]

Stanley Woo wrote...

And I find some of you "detractors" hijacking another thread like this and shutting out those who happen to like the game, the banhammer will be brought down. Hard.

I too find that nothing fosters more positivity than the proverbial "You better shut it, or I'm gonna break your face."

Well played, sir!

devSin wrote...

I installed the game recently, getting ready for a possible run of BioWare games this year, and I admit I felt a little tinge of excitement when firing it up to mess with all the settings.

As a small update, I will say that this feeling was completely replaced by disappointment when I played into the game a bit, and got a driver fault in the first fight in the "real" prologue.

So apparently the game still doesn't work at full DX11 settings on 5800-series AMD cards with 11.12 drivers (I think 11.9, meaning September 2011, was when it stopped working)? I guess I won't be playing again anytime soon after all...

Modifié par devSin, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:26 .

[Aggie Punbot]

devSin wrote...

I too find that nothing fosters more positivity than the proverbial "You better shut it, or I'm gonna break your face."

Well played, sir!

This made me literally laugh out loud.

[AtreiyaN7]

devSin wrote...

So apparently the game still doesn't work at full DX11 settings on 5800-series AMD cards with 11.12 drivers (I think 11.9, meaning September 2011, was when it stopped working)? I guess I won't be playing again anytime soon after all...

As someone with Mobility HD 6990s, AMD/ATI drivers generally suck - you have no idea what a disaster the 11.12 drivers were. In the Alienware notebooks forums that I frequent, everyone pretty much got BSODs thanks to the stupid driver package. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the problems are on AMD's end and their drivers. I'm currently running with more recent updated beta drivers by Dell specifically for my system (and thankfully, they work well). I'm avoiding the ones directly from AMD unless 12.1-plus actually solves more problems than they create - albeit I'm letting others serve as guinea pigs first on those one they actually have a solid release version of the drivers.

[devSin]

I'm just displeased that something they apparently broke in September isn't fixed now in January. I played the entire game at max settings with the 11.6 and 11.7 drivers (my counter was over 100 hours, and I don't recall a single crash).

I had stopped playing by the time MotA was released (which was near the 11.9 update and when people started mentioning the DX11 crashes), and I had stupidly assumed that it would be fixed if I let it alone for a few months.

If it's not fixed for the expansion, Andreas better find a workaround. I don't want to have to roll back to 11.8 or earlier just to play DA2 (ME and Origins work fine on latest drivers, and ME3 will run splendidly no doubt, but DA2 of course has to make it even harder to want to play).

Modifié par devSin, 24 janvier 2012 - 08:04 .

[alex90c]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Thanks for the love, katiebour (and others)! It's a game that I happen to like a lot, myself. Sure, i could, like some of your detractors here, point out what I didn't like about the game, but you took the time and effort to make a rather generous post of support and joy, and for that, I thank you.

And I find some of you "detractors" hijacking another thread like this and shutting out those who happen to like the game, the banhammer will be brought down. Hard.

What? Expressing a view contrary to the OP in this thread will get us banned? 

[Aggie Punbot]

Nah, he was saying that if the detractors try stifling the words of thanks with their bitterness again, bans will be handed out...just as they would be if the roles were reversed.

[milena87]

Thank you for the read katiebour, it's nice to see a positive thread around here

And I agree with you: I love the Dragon Age universe and I loved DA2, despite its flaws

[DreamwareStudio]

Teddie Sage wrote...

google_calasade wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Why is it that everytime we want to enjoy something, there's always a party pooper around?

Because DA 2 is one of the most, if not the most, disappointing games in years.  Whenever a thread is posted that talks about it being a good game, you can be sure there will be posts contradicting a positive statement.  People want to make sure that Bioware/EA knows DA 2 was several steps in the wrong direction.

STOP IT! We already know you people hate this game. But for the REAL fans like us who don't mind these flaws, it is quite insulting and embarassing to see people like you coming over and over, all to spit out your hatred every frigging time someone wants to say something positive about this game. Dragon Age II has its fans and has its anti-fans, I don't care if you hate it, but let the REAL fans love it peacefully and stop harassing us! You're a real pain in the ass. Geez!

Edit: Bioware seriously needs to hire more moderators...

That is really insulting and not even close to the truth.  I was neither harrassing nor belittling you.

If I was not a true fan, do you think I would bother coming onto the forums and letting my opinions (either positive or negative) be known?  I and anyone else has just as much right to intelligently and non-insultingly come onto to these forums and give our feedback.  For some games, I've had good feedback.  I've had tremendously positive feedback for others.  And for others, yeah, I've had negative feedback.

If you enjoyed the game, I'm glad for you.  I won't claim you're not a real fan of roleplaying or tremendous graphics or challenging gameplay if you enjoyed DA 2 simply because your opinion differs from mine.

I expect the same kind of respect in return.

[DreamwareStudio]

Atakuma wrote...

Shevy_001 wrote...

Time for constructive criticism never passes.

It most certainly does. Bioware has heard every possible criticism of DA2 multiple times already, so anything anyone says now is redundant. I don't care if people complain, but attempting to justifying it by claiming bioware needs to hear it is just annoying.

The fact is there are people who've just tried the game and want to put in their two cents as well.  You can't fault them for that.  Had the game been better received, then you would have been exposed to less negative feedback.

[Zanallen]

google_calasade wrote...

The fact is there are people who've just tried the game and want to put in their two cents as well.  You can't fault them for that.  Had the game been better received, then you would have been exposed to less negative feedback.

Ha, that's a laugh. ME2 is Bioware's highest rated game of all time and people are still whining about things. The same things. Over and over and over again. Things that Bioware has flat out said are going to remain the same for ME3. Things that aren't going to change no matter how much they post about it.

No, the BSN is just filled with people who like to complain about stuff.

[Shevy]

Zanallen wrote...

google_calasade wrote...

The fact is there are people who've just tried the game and want to put in their two cents as well.  You can't fault them for that.  Had the game been better received, then you would have been exposed to less negative feedback.

Ha, that's a laugh. ME2 is Bioware's highest rated game of all time and people are still whining about things. The same things. Over and over and over again. Things that Bioware has flat out said are going to remain the same for ME3. Things that aren't going to change no matter how much they post about it.

No, the BSN is just filled with people who like to complain about stuff.

The BSN is a lovely place full of gentleness and harmony compared to the WoW forum I visited regularly before I quit two years ago.

I'm here because I really like the DA universe, but DA II was a huge letdown for me. So I participate in the discussions here giving my opinion which isn't overly positive. I never insulted another poster or even the devs, because I think that they had great concepts for DA II and tried to do the best in development with the given limitations. That said, I only blame them for the information politic before launch here. I expected DA II to be different as it was, even with all the announced changes. And I sucked off every bit of information, chatted with Mike personally ( which is defintily superb! here).

So it's kinda unfair to entitle us as whiners and no REAL fans. ( Yes, I'm looking at you Teddie) We are fans like everyone else around here, only with a different opinion on DA II. I respect yours and am glad, that you enjoyed it, but I wish that you treat us with the same respect, when we're giving feedback without hatred.

Yes, I don't know if it makes sense anymore to give feedback on different aspects of the game. No one knows, except the devs. But I have faith in them listening and deciding on various feedback what they think will fit best in a future installment. I can only wait and see, then decide to support their attempt or not. But until then, I'll share my mind.

Greetings.

Modifié par Shevy_001, 24 janvier 2012 - 11:27 .

[Zanallen]

Shevy_001 wrote...

The BSN is a lovely place full of gentleness and harmony compared to the WoW forum I visited regularly before I quit two years ago.

I'm here because I really like the DA universe, but DA II was a huge letdown for me. So I participate in the discussions here giving my opinion which isn't overly positive. I never insulted another poster or even the devs, because I think that they had great concepts for DA II and tried to do the best in development with the given limitations. That said, I only blame them for the information politic before launch here. I expected DA II to be different as it was, even with all the announced changes. And I sucked off every bit of information, chatted with Mike personally ( which is defintily superb! here).

So it's kinda unfair to entitle us as whiners and no REAL fans. We are fans like everyone else around here, only with a different opinion on DA II. I respect yours and am glad, that you enjoyed it, but I wish that you treat us with the same respect, when we're giving feedback without hatred.

I never stated my opinion on DA2. Hell, I haven't even got to the Deep Roads expedition yet. I stated my opinion on the BSN, specifically that its full of people who like to complain about stuff. It doesn't matter how good the game is, how well the fans/critics received it, what Bioware says about a particular topic or anything else. There will always be a significant group of people complaining about it. Over and over again. It is almost comforting in its regularity. Its like Old Faithful. You can always count on someone on the BSN to be whining about something somewhere. Not to say you are whining, of course. I didn't even bother to read your post. The game has been out for so long that every bit of praise or criticism has been said and, supposedly, well documented by the devs. Its all old hat by now. And, honestly, none of it really matters. At the end of the day, Bioware is most likely going to do what they want with their game (As is their right) and then we'll decide if we want to support their decisions by purchasing the game (As is our right).

Edit: And yes, I am well aware of the hypocracy of complaining about complainers. Remember, someone here is complaining about something somewhere at all times. There are no exceptions.

Modifié par Zanallen, 24 janvier 2012 - 11:32 .

[ElitePinecone]

Thanks Bioware!

I really appreciated your work on DA2 and its DLCs. It was very evident that you guys and gals love your work and love creating content in this universe, and I really enjoyed the humour and details that you come up with (especially in MoTA!).

[Icinix]

Following the post above - I choose to ad this complaint.

I love reading about people complaining about the BioWare forums.

I find myself wondering if they have ever seen other game forums or parts of the internet?

The biggest implosion of a forums I have ever seen is the C&C forums before, during and after C&C4.

You think you've seen bad here....

[flexxdk]

It's good to see that this thread hasn't derailed in a hate thread yet. That's good!

We need some more positivety here. 

And I must admit, I did enjoy DA2 a bit. And for what it was. Not sure why I got so hateful of the game after a while though...

Modifié par Whacka, 24 janvier 2012 - 12:54 .

[Olive Oomph]

When I played DA2 last year in april, I liked it, but I was not really enthusiastic about it.
I recently bought my own copy, when I had been inspired to give it another try by discussions in this place and patched and in combiantion with the outstanding DLC's it has become one of my favourite games at the moment.
I understand that the development team has taken quite a risk by making so many changes to the franchise and though, in my opinion, they have not succeeded in every detail, I think the general direction they have taken with it is promising and it leads to a gaming experience, that to me is one of the best I ever had.
Thank you!

[Gibb_Shepard]

Despite my grievances with DA2 and the direction of the DA franchise in general; i have to say thanks for DA:O. It is the best gaming experience i've ever had. Never has game made me read every codex entry regarding lore or buy all novels based off of it. Never has a game gotten me so ridiculously invested in every character. Never has a game had a home-base that just made me want to sit there for hours listening to the amazing atmospheric music.

Heres hoping i can have a similar experience in DA3.

[alex90c]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Nah, he was saying that if the detractors try stifling the words of thanks with their bitterness again, bans will be handed out...just as they would be if the roles were reversed.

So basically a contrary vew.

[Momiji.mii]

So nice to see a positive thread for once! I also loved DA2 and I'm very excited to see where the francise is heading. I'm not the kind of person who can spend a lot of time gaming, but despite that I'm planning on doing a 4th playthrough soon, even if I have to put important RL stuff on hold in order to make that happen. That's kind of amazing actually. I've never spent so much time on a single game before in my life! So thank you, Bioware, for making such a wonderful game! 

Modifié par Momiji.mii, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:26 .

[Atakuma]

alex90c wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

Nah, he was saying that if the detractors try stifling the words of thanks with their bitterness again, bans will be handed out...just as they would be if the roles were reversed.

So basically a contrary vew.

Posting things like "DA2 sucks", is what he means.

[John Epler]

If you're civil in your disagreement, please, feel free to continue disagreeing. We've never banned someone for simple criticism or disagreement because, hey, that's what the forums are for - sharing your opinion in a respectful manner that contributes to a positive environment for discussion.

If you decide that the rules of civil discourse do not apply to you then, yes, you will probably be banned. Life is unfair. I suggest acceptance.

[HTTP 404]

tbh, I liked da2 but I loved da:O. I thought the direction for da2 was good and I do have high hopes for da3 if there is one. nice to see positive feedback for a change. we (fans) tend to look at the negatives.