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[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Oh for crying out loud.  Anybody can choose conflict instead of peace.

Yes and that is why you take precautions. It's why you won't give someone your social security number, or leave your car unlocked, or leave your front door open, or trust a stranger to take your child to a birthday party. It's why you won't let a biohazard like the rachni queen run free without supervision.

Paranoia can even be more dangerous.  I am guessing you don't mind if the Government spies on you.

[Someone With Mass]

android654 wrote...

Doesn't matter how many doors there are since they're out in the open, the terminal is in the center of the people and the door to proceed onward is beneath the trailers that they're standing in front of. There are no options if you have no grenades, you've got to kill them

Well, that's sort of your own fault for not making sure that you're always ready with grenades.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You never read my post I see. Way to give yourself away, SMW.

Hilarious that you are accusing me of cherry picking (I didn't) when you are doing it yourself.

Why not? You're doing it all the time. You're the inspiration to such half-assery.

[android654]

Someone With Mass wrote...

android654 wrote...

Doesn't matter how many doors there are since they're out in the open, the terminal is in the center of the people and the door to proceed onward is beneath the trailers that they're standing in front of. There are no options if you have no grenades, you've got to kill them

Well, that's sort of your own fault for not making sure that you're always ready with grenades.

Because I knew the people I came to help were going to try and kill me so I needed bombs to use to knock them out instead of blow them up, which is what grenades are used for.

Its actually the colonists fault for thinking they could take on William, Wrex, and Shepard. Now they're dead. Oh well.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paranoia can even be more dangerous.  I am guessing you don't mind if the Government spies on you.

It depends on how much.

Are you philosophically opposed to security cameras in businesses? How about red light cameras?

Look, if you are just going to do this instead of argue the debate then get out.

At this point you aren't even attempting to argue about the rachni queen.

You are the one that brought in present day real life analogies,  I am simply explaining how your paranoid mentality can be dangerous.  Too bad you can't see that.

[Ryzaki]

...honestly? I'm a paragon and I tend to kill some of the colonists.

My Shep runs out of grenades and running up to them while the colonists are firing at him is too risky. He's not happy about it but it's safest to take them out from a distance.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:44 .

[android654]

I love how people are getting worked up over a fictitious genocide committed by the story's main protagonist.

[didymos1120]

android654 wrote...


Its actually the colonists fault for thinking they could take on William, Wrex, and Shepard. Now they're dead. Oh well.

It's their fault they were being puppeteered by an angry telepathic plant?

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I liked how you cheery picked my quote without including the parts where I specificaly explained why Shepard and company know they can neutralize the colonists safely without metagaming.

I did not cherry pick but that is what you are effectively doing right now.

The points you raised about the colonists were not good ones and they were ones I've already addressed.

Yes you did cherry pick and since you didn't want to address them you deleted that part of the quote when you quoted me in order to take my quote out of context because you knew you could not rationaly come up with a good reason as to why you off the colonists.  And just because someone brings up a point  you do not agree with does not make it invalid.  Once again you are demonstrating your lack of humility and ability to admit that you might be wrong.

[KotorEffect3]

didymos1120 wrote...

android654 wrote...


Its actually the colonists fault for thinking they could take on William, Wrex, and Shepard. Now they're dead. Oh well.

It's their fault they were being puppeteered by an angry telepathic plant?

How dare you argue with these oh so pragmatic renegades with facts that don't support their claims.

[android654]

didymos1120 wrote...

android654 wrote...


Its actually the colonists fault for thinking they could take on William, Wrex, and Shepard. Now they're dead. Oh well.

It's their fault they were being puppeteered by an angry telepathic plant?

Its the company's fault for lying to the colonists about the Thorian. Its their fault for leaving guns out in the open, and they pulled the triggers so the result is death by Spectre. Shepard kills things with guns and they were just things with guns, so what ya gonna do?

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You are the one that brought in present day real life analogies,  I am simply explaining how your paranoid mentality can be dangerous.  Too bad you can't see that.

No, you are once again taking a thought and carrying it out to a brutal extreme. I never advocated being paranoid.

So killing someone because they might  be dangerous although there is nothing to indicate that they actualy are is not being paranoid?

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:50 .

[Dean_the_Young]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Rationalize your actions and think of how much better your choices will be for everyone in the long run (assuming you don't metagame)

Your choices generaly aren't better for non-humans

Sure they are.

Feros, Noveria, Destiny Ascension, Collector Base, Mordin LM, Tali LM, Legion, Legion LM, Thane LM, especially.

[Jozape]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

2:)  The rachni on noveria were driven insane.

Is this proven in the game before you're forced to make the decision at the queen? It's been a few years since I've played.

[JamieCOTC]

It helps to not think of Shepard as an avatar, but as a character. I've played both full throttle renegade and pure of heart paragon. Playing one way or the other 100% is both boring and makes little to no sense. Paragon Shep does some stupid things and Renegade Shep can be cruel for the sake of cruelty.

I have a pragmatist Shep who is a Renegon. She does things quickly and efficiently. That calls for a lot of renegade responses and interrupts, but not always. The closest thing I have to a full on renegade has about 3/4 of one block worth of paragon. She's the definition of "get things done any way possible." However, she blew up the base. The option steal the Collector Base and tell TIM to screw himself wasn't there. I have a paragade who has just about equal parts paragon and renegade. I play her as a pragmatist too, though if people mess w/ her, she tells them to STFU.

Ironically, the closest thing I have to a full paragon has about 3/4 of a block worth of renegade.  She took some renegade responces and interrupts as they seemed more "just" as in the case of blowing up the heritic geth.  Also, blowing the head off a mech really isn't a big deal.

I don't get the idea that one is better than the other, just different ways of playing and I enjoy them both equally.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:55 .

[KotorEffect3]

Jozape wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

2:)  The rachni on noveria were driven insane.

Is this proven in the game before you're forced to make the decision at the queen? It's been a few years since I've played.

Yes the scientist in the hot labs will mention as well as the queen herself if you encounter her before going into the hot labs.

[didymos1120]

Jozape wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

2:)  The rachni on noveria were driven insane.

Is this proven in the game before you're forced to make the decision at the queen? It's been a few years since I've played.

If you talk to Han Olar, he mentions it.  You'd also know if you do the Hot Labs first. Can't recall if Benezia also mentions it when she temporarily shakes off the indoctrination.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:52 .

[android654]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You are the one that brought in present day real life analogies,  I am simply explaining how your paranoid mentality can be dangerous.  Too bad you can't see that.

No, you are once again taking a thought and carrying it out to a brutal extreme. I never advocated being paranoid.

So killing someone because they might  be dangerous although there is nothing to indicate that they actualy are is not being paranoid?

Not when they're actively shooting at you and your two team memers, then its pragmatic.

[didymos1120]

android654 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

android654 wrote...


Its actually the colonists fault for thinking they could take on William, Wrex, and Shepard. Now they're dead. Oh well.

It's their fault they were being puppeteered by an angry telepathic plant?

Its the company's fault for lying to the colonists about the Thorian. Its their fault for leaving guns out in the open, and they pulled the triggers so the result is death by Spectre. Shepard kills things with guns and they were just things with guns, so what ya gonna do?

That isn't an answer to the question I asked.

[KotorEffect3]

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You are the one that brought in present day real life analogies,  I am simply explaining how your paranoid mentality can be dangerous.  Too bad you can't see that.

No, you are once again taking a thought and carrying it out to a brutal extreme. I never advocated being paranoid.

So killing someone because they might  be dangerous although there is nothing to indicate that they actualy are is not being paranoid?

Not when they're actively shooting at you and your two team memers, then its pragmatic.

So when is the queen actively trying to kill you?