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[BatmanPWNS]

He thinks they're ugly.

Simple.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:25 .

[King Minos]

Kai Leng was touched in naughty places by a Turian.

If you want to see a reenactement of his violaion, look on youtube for the Steven Spielberg and George Lucas raping Indianna Jones from South Park.

Modifié par King Minos, 23 janvier 2012 - 04:29 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

The turians killed most of the Chinese soldiers in the First Contact War and he hates jaw-flapping aliens. I bet he's Earthborn and from China (PRC).

[C9316]

A turian C-Sec officer would not allow poor old Kai to bring his 15 centimeter serrated blade unto a transport shuttle.

[Drone223]

C9316 wrote...

A turian C-Sec officer would not allow poor old Kai to bring his 15 centimeter serrated blade unto a transport shuttle.

You human's are all racist............wait thats not right  

[Blacklash93]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Us humans are superior to most aliens anyway, so why shouldn't we look down on them?

Only a handful of races truly matter. Everyone else is just so much chaff.

I know such a concept is probably beyond you, but shouldn't we respect and allow dignity for all sapient life? People are people. There are saints and sinners, winners and losers. ect. Other races are no different.

And looking down on a different race that is on your level of intelligence or even has the potential to be just because of different looks and stereotypes is inherently racism. It's the same mentality of white supremacist groups.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:45 .

[BlueMagitek]

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know such a concept is probably beyond you, but shouldn't we respect and allow dignity for all sapient life? People are people. There are saints and sinners, winners and losers. ect.

And looking down on a different race that is on your level of intelligence or even has the potential to be just because of different looks and stereotypes is inherently racism. It's the same mentality of white supremacist groups.

Listen, first people said Krogan were people.  Then the Krogan go on a rampage.

Then people said Turians were people.  Then Turians go about attacking new species on sight. 

Finally said people said Rachni were people, and we have a hint at how that's going to turn out.

[kromify]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

Hate makes you loose nuances in understanding, nuances that allows you to better solve a situation long term without nasty side effects biting you and others in the buttocks later on. Thats why it should be avoided to take control (duh!)

Mm, only if you allow it to override logic.  For example, there are a couple people obsessed with being too nice, and they allow this to overrule their logic.  In meeting a bad alien, these people will suffer the consequences of their ideas.

pretty much Kaidan's attitude

[Blacklash93]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know such a concept is probably beyond you, but shouldn't we respect and allow dignity for all sapient life? People are people. There are saints and sinners, winners and losers. ect.

And looking down on a different race that is on your level of intelligence or even has the potential to be just because of different looks and stereotypes is inherently racism. It's the same mentality of white supremacist groups.

Listen, first people said Krogan were people.  Then the Krogan go on a rampage.

Then people said Turians were people.  Then Turians go about attacking new species on sight. 

Finally said people said Rachni were people, and we have a hint at how that's going to turn out.

So going on a rampage, attacking aliens, and going crazy makes someone not a person?

Is Wrex a person? Is Garrus a person? Was the Rachni Queen not a sentient creature? Well clearly they aren't becuase the species they belong to have flaws like overeacting and groupthink. Unlike humanity... oh wait.

Can't argue with that logic.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 23 janvier 2012 - 08:56 .

[kromify]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know such a concept is probably beyond you, but shouldn't we respect and allow dignity for all sapient life? People are people. There are saints and sinners, winners and losers. ect.

And looking down on a different race that is on your level of intelligence or even has the potential to be just because of different looks and stereotypes is inherently racism. It's the same mentality of white supremacist groups.

Listen, first people said Krogan were people.  Then the Krogan go on a rampage.

Then people said Turians were people.  Then Turians go about attacking new species on sight. 

Finally said people said Rachni were people, and we have a hint at how that's going to turn out.

the salarians should have just given the rachni the genophage.

[C9316]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know such a concept is probably beyond you, but shouldn't we respect and allow dignity for all sapient life? People are people. There are saints and sinners, winners and losers. ect.

And looking down on a different race that is on your level of intelligence or even has the potential to be just because of different looks and stereotypes is inherently racism. It's the same mentality of white supremacist groups.

Listen, first people said Krogan were people.  Then the Krogan go on a rampage.

Then people said Turians were people.  Then Turians go about attacking new species on sight. 

Finally said people said Rachni were people, and we have a hint at how that's going to turn out.

By that definition I suppose the countries that made up the Axis powers wern't people either...

[BlueMagitek]

Blacklash93 wrote...

So going on a rampage, attacking aliens, and going crazy makes someone not a person?

Is Wrex a person? Is Garrus a person? Was the Rachni Queen not a sentient creature? Well clearly they aren't becuase the species they belong to have flaws like overeacting and groupthink. Unlike humanity... oh wait.

Can't argue with that logic.

Yup.

Nope, definately not, most certainly not.  I do wish Krogan would be a people; I rather like their design.

I'm glad.

C9316 wrote...

By that definition I suppose the countries that made up the Axis powers wern't people either...

Now you get it.

[ReallyRue]

Zkyire wrote...

@this thread.

It's speciesism, not racism.

True, I was actually originally going to go for 'xenophobia', but I figured it would be more likely to get a reply if I used a weightier word like racism.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 23 janvier 2012 - 11:47 .

[knightnblu]

CptData wrote "Dunno about Kai Leng yet. He might have reasons for what he does.
He's a nationalist for sure and wants human supremacy - that's it. And guess a lot of humans agree here too."

Kai Leng is a sick puppy. He took pleasure in slitting Aria's daughter's throat while she was incapacitated and unable to defend herself on Grayson's bed. If I remember correctly, he smiled when he did it. He is also physically revolted by aliens and doesn't even wish to occupy the same room as them because they sicken him. When he was dealing with the Turian security team, he wanted to kill them and only suffered them because it was crucial to his mission to do so. After his mission was accomplished, he did kill them.

I recall other nationalists that had similar feelings. The National Socialist Party in specific. Kai Leng is nobody to admire and there really isn't any candy coating him to make him more likeable. Anderson should have ended him when he had the chance. If I get the opportunity in ME3, he won't survive the encounter.

On the plus side, it is characters like this that really makes BioWare games shine. You might not like some of the characters you run across, but you will feel something about most of them.

[Seboist]

Humans are superior to aliens. They're more genetically diverse.

[Blacklash93]

Seboist wrote...

Humans are superior to aliens.

No.

Would you say Americans are superior to Africans as people because they're better educated? Even if we are genetically superior it doesn't mean we can look down on others.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 24 janvier 2012 - 01:05 .

[AdmiralCheez]

So I wonder how much racism towards fake aliens correlates to racism in real life.

[Blacklash93]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So I wonder how much racism towards fake aliens correlates to racism in real life.

I'm just saying looking down on others because of disadvantages is wrong.

[What a Succulent Ass]

To be fair, if you can get it, African education eclipses American education. By a long shot.

Just saiyan.

[JosephDucreux]

Random Jerkface wrote...

To be fair, if you can get it, African education eclipses American education. By a long shot.

Just saiyan.

Yeah, African beat Amercian education standards by 9002 points in 2011.

[AdmiralCheez]

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm just saying looking down on others because of disadvantages is wrong.

I meant the question completely seriously, actually.

[bleetman]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Too bad, that is impossible in real life.  Enjoy your fantasy

In an entirely fictional setting? Ok. I'll go back to doing that, yes.

[Blacklash93]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm just saying looking down on others because of disadvantages is wrong.

I meant the question completely seriously, actually.

Assuming we don't come across a Lovecraftian horror beyond our means of understanding, I'd say if we do meet up with intelligent aliens one day this era's racism will be completely comparable. I don't see why we shouldn't practice tolerance and acceptance to species of the xeno-variety now, even if it is in fiction.

If people keep the attitudes like that on the TIM thread towards real-life aliens, we're probably in for quite a mess.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:15 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Assuming we don't come across a Lovecraftian horror beyond our means of understanding, I'd say if we do meet up with intelligent aliens one day this era's racism will be completely comparable. I don't see why we shouldn't practice tolerance and acceptance to species of the xeno-variety now, even if it is in fiction.

If people keep the attitudes like that on the TIM thread towards real-life aliens, we're probably in for quite a mess.

Completely agreed.  Plus, I like the aliens, both the histories/cultures of each species as a whole and the characters as individuals.

But seriously, sometimes I wonder if everyone acts like they do on here in real life.  I know I do.