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[Eclipse_9990]

AlexXIV wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

It can be if their other extra factors to it but on it's own it is not.

I'm curious. What are the other factors?

Is it okay to kill a person trying to expose police corruption? Is it alright to gundown a dude trying to speak for equal rights? Is it totally justified to cap a ****er who's spewing racial slurs?

Man.. A lot of you guys really hate free speech don't you? 

People want to have the right of free speech. They just sometimes don't want that other people have it too.

Its unbelievable isn't it? 

[GodWood]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
It can be if their other extra factors to it but on it's own it is not.

I'm curious. What are the other factors?

If they did it to send a message saying "He died because of X, now this will happen to you if you don't do what we [Cerberus] says".

Cerberus did not do this. They tried to make it look like an accident.

Is it okay to kill a person trying to expose police corruption? Is it alright to gundown a dude trying to speak for equal rights? Is it totally justified to cap a ****er who's spewing racial slurs?

Would you be against the assassination of a man who's actively trying to sabotage your country's relations with the Japanese because of what they did in WW2?

That's essentially what this is.

Man.. A lot of you guys really hate free speech don't you?

Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

[Volus Warlord]

Right? Ha. Privilege. A privilege that can be and has been repeatedly denied for a variety of reasons.

Before you go around waving the whole "inalienable right" card, keep in mind those words are intended to sound good on a piece of paper. There is a ..noteworthy disparity.. between pen and practice.

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 25 janvier 2012 - 03:38 .

[Eclipse_9990]

GodWood wrote...
Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

Well then its a good thing free speech allows those clowns to voice their opinions then. Isn't it? 

Volus Warlord wrote...

Right? Ha. Privilege. A privilege that can be and has been repeatedly denied for a variety of reasons. 

Before you go around waving the whole "inalienable right" card, keep in mind those words are intended to sound good on a piece of paper. There is a ..noteworthy disparity.. between pen and practice.

What did you do to earn your right. Oops I mean "privilege" to free speech? Who was the dude to hand you your certificate, and tell you "Hey! You've totally earned the right say what you want without us killing/arresting you now! :D"
Man I sure wish I had my own shiney paper that says I can say what I want 100% of the time. Now I can only say what I want 99.99% of the time.

Being free is hard. Its hard and nobody understands. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 25 janvier 2012 - 03:43 .

[GodWood]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

Well then its a good thing free speech allows those clowns to voice their opinions then. Isn't it?

Those 'clowns' happen to be pretty much everyone.

[Volus Warlord]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

Well then its a good thing free speech allows those clowns to voice their opinions then. Isn't it? 

Volus Warlord wrote...

Right? Ha. Privilege. A privilege that can be and has been repeatedly denied for a variety of reasons. 

Before you go around waving the whole "inalienable right" card, keep in mind those words are intended to sound good on a piece of paper. There is a ..noteworthy disparity.. between pen and practice.

What did you do to earn your right. Oops I mean "privilege" to free speech? Who was the dude to hand you your certificate, and tell you "Hey! You've totally earned the right say what you want without us killing/arresting you now! :D"
Man I sure wish I had my own shiney paper that says I can say what I want 100% of the time. Now I can only say what I want 99.99% of the time.

Being free is hard. Its hard and nobody understands. 

Ha. If you think doing something simply because you can means being free or independant, you sir are slave-to your own idiocy.

[Eclipse_9990]

GodWood wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

Well then its a good thing free speech allows those clowns to voice their opinions then. Isn't it?

Those 'clowns' happen to be pretty much everyone.

"Everyone" includes you bro. Would you honestly be fine with free speech being removed? To be killed or arrested for saying a certain thing? 

Volus Warlord wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Most people do if it's in the name of a view they don't share.

Well then its a good thing free speech allows those clowns to voice their opinions then. Isn't it? 

Volus Warlord wrote...

Right? Ha. Privilege. A privilege that can be and has been repeatedly denied for a variety of reasons. 

Before you go around waving the whole "inalienable right" card, keep in mind those words are intended to sound good on a piece of paper. There is a ..noteworthy disparity.. between pen and practice.

What did you do to earn your right. Oops I mean "privilege" to free speech? Who was the dude to hand you your certificate, and tell you "Hey! You've totally earned the right say what you want without us killing/arresting you now! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]"
Man I sure wish I had my own shiney paper that says I can say what I want 100% of the time. Now I can only say what I want 99.99% of the time. 

Being free is hard. Its hard and nobody understands. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

Ha. If you think doing something simply because you can means being free or independant, you sir are slave-to your own idiocy.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 25 janvier 2012 - 03:53 .

[Eclipse_9990]

double posty

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 25 janvier 2012 - 03:53 .

[GodWood]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
"Everyone" includes you bro.

Of course.

Would you honestly be fine with free speech being removed? To be killed or arrested for saying a certain thing?

Naturally it'd depend on what can and cannot be said.

[Volus Warlord]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...


"Everyone" includes you bro. Would you honestly be fine with free speech being removed? To be killed or arrested for saying a certain thing? 

That..already happens.

[Eclipse_9990]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...


"Everyone" includes you bro. Would you honestly be fine with free speech being removed? To be killed or arrested for saying a certain thing? 

That..already happens.

Not in my country.

Anyway. This has been a very enlightening convo. Need to get some sleep.

I... Am... Outies! 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 25 janvier 2012 - 04:03 .

[KotorEffect3]

GodWood wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
either you are making an assumption or you are listing spoilers from the leak.  Neither of which is cool.

I can tell you how he dies if you like.

You'd better keep any damn spoilers you know to yourself.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
either you are making an assumption or you are listing spoilers from the leak.  Neither of which is cool.

I can tell you how he dies if you like.

You'd better keep any damn spoilers you know to yourself.

Saren 2.0. 

I'm just kidding, Bioware is terrible but not that terrible.

lol it's all good.  We will have plenty of time to yell at each other after ME 3 comes out about what goes on in ME 3.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 25 janvier 2012 - 06:58 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

TheCreeper wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

But you can stop Sovereign while saving the council.

At the time you make that decision how do you know that's true?

At the time of Arrival how do you know that you can't spare the system and beat the Reapers? After all, you saved the Council and beat Sovereign.

You can't beat hundreds of reapers when your stranded in the middle of their entry point. The entire SA fifth fleet was involved in the battle of the citadel, and saving the Council cost only a few ships and a few hundred people,that was against one Reaper and a number of geth ships, there was no fleet near the alpha relay and Hundreds if not a thousand or more are coming through it, No sane shep would ever save the Relay.

No sane Shep would ever gamble with the galaxy during the Battle of the Citadel...

[Lotion Soronarr]

Phaedon wrote...
But, you wouldn't have been prepared if you had kept the Base. In fact, you would get f*cked in the ass should it have anything useful, which it logically shouldn't and it doesn't.

Sense...I'm not detecting any in this sentance.

[mybudgee]

There is a difference between a belief, a value, an opinion, and truth. (I personally believe that absolute truth is an illusion, but that's me)

[Lotion Soronarr]

AlexXIV wrote...
Well political assassination can be considered terrorism. No matter how good your reasons are. Especially if you want to make a point as to why the target had to die in an attempt to subdue a certain political opinion.

Everything can be "considered" terrorism.

Cerberus aren't terrorists.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 25 janvier 2012 - 08:18 .

[Poison_Berrie]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Then I guess there is no helping you. Your loss.

Your actions seem to frequently fall back on thinly veiled insults and (deliberate) misinterpetations. 
I thank you for lowering my expectations of you.

[Jestina]

Fire extinguisher?

Don't mess with them crazy Cerberus zealots, they'll blow up your house and have their way with your dog.

[Dariustwinblade]

These threads always amuse me.

[andy6915]

We call them terrorists because the game does. Shepard uses the word terrorist to describe them, the news does, the council does, Jacob does, I'm pretty sure the Virmire survivor does, EVERYONE does. We call it as the game calls it. Simple. If that is incorrect, blame Mass Effect's script writers.

Modifié par andy69156915, 25 janvier 2012 - 10:44 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

I do.
They suck.