How cute, I'm surprised you didn't simply post "NO U!"Someone With Mass wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Then why should we care about anything you write?
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Your'e not answering hte question - yoiu are dodging it. But I'll make it more edetailed, since you obviously do not get it...
How can you come to the quarians and ask them to make piece with the Geth?
How can you ask Krogans to work with Turians and Salarians?
How can you demend for every other faction to burrs their hatchets anmd get over their trust issues and hatered - when you yourself utterly refuse to do the same? Shouldn't Shepard lead by example?
Oh, and if your answer is "but they are Cerberus", then I'll coutner with:
Krogan/Quarian: "but they are Salarian/Turian/Geth"
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Arppis wrote...
Because he says at the end: "POWER TO THE CERBERUS IS POWER TO THE HUMANITY! AGAINST REAPERS AND BEYOND, blah blah", he really is all that pro-human. He wants humanity to sit as ruler of galaxy, not working WITH other spieces.
Arppis wrote...
He keeps a lot of things from Shepard really, it's a big reason not to trust him.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Your'e not answering hte question - yoiu are dodging it. But I'll make it more edetailed, since you obviously do not get it...
How can you come to the quarians and ask them to make piece with the Geth?
How can you ask Krogans to work with Turians and Salarians?
How can you demend for every other faction to burrs their hatchets anmd get over their trust issues and hatered - when you yourself utterly refuse to do the same? Shouldn't Shepard lead by example?
Oh, and if your answer is "but they are Cerberus", then I'll coutner with:
Krogan/Quarian: "but they are Salarian/Turian/Geth"
Here's the thing. I gave Cerberus several chances to do something good in ME2, and they pissed it way. Especially with the whole "Cerberus is humanity" crap. It's obvious that they only care about themselves, so why the hell should I care about them, let alone waste time and resources on them?
Also, if you think that I have the same standard opinion of everyone in the galaxy just for the sake of giving them a fair chance, I can just tell you that I don't do it like that, since every faction has their own problem that varies in consequences and rewards. Like the krogan and salarians. Wost case scenario is that they remain in their current state and the salarians are just as uncooperative. With the quarians and the geth, the worst case scenario there is another war.
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Your'e not answering hte question - yoiu are dodging it. But I'll make it more edetailed, since you obviously do not get it...
How can you come to the quarians and ask them to make piece with the Geth?
How can you ask Krogans to work with Turians and Salarians?
How can you demend for every other faction to burrs their hatchets anmd get over their trust issues and hatered - when you yourself utterly refuse to do the same? Shouldn't Shepard lead by example?
Oh, and if your answer is "but they are Cerberus", then I'll coutner with:
Krogan/Quarian: "but they are Salarian/Turian/Geth"
Because timmyboy has no intention of working peacefully with the other species.
Not an answer.
What if a Quarioan admiral goes : "Geth have no intention of working peacefully with us." And any thing you bring forth is dismissed as lies.
Krogan have no intention of working peacefully with the Salarians.
I dont' need proof, I KNOW. The magical unicorn told me.
You got no argument (then again you never did)
Everytihng you have rests soley on your hatered and irrational mistrust of Cerberus, hypocrisy and double standards.
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
How cute, I'm surprised you didn't simply post "NO U!"
Is this immature behaviour really what your debating skills come down to?
You can at least try to convince me of your views, misguided as they may be.Someone With Mass wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
How cute, I'm surprised you didn't simply post "NO U!"
Is this immature behaviour really what your debating skills come down to?
No, I just don't see the point in going any higher when dealing with people like you and your sad "HUMANITY FIRST" crap.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Arppis wrote...
Because he says at the end: "POWER TO THE CERBERUS IS POWER TO THE HUMANITY! AGAINST REAPERS AND BEYOND, blah blah", he really is all that pro-human. He wants humanity to sit as ruler of galaxy, not working WITH other spieces.
For one he's talking about the aftermath. Secondly, nothing about human dominance implies that humanity can't work with the other species.Arppis wrote...
He keeps a lot of things from Shepard really, it's a big reason not to trust him.
Everybody keeps things from Shepard if he doesn't need to know them. Sooner or later you'll need to come to terms with that.
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Pfft it is 4:30 am where I live. You aint worth it.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Arppis wrote...
It does say something when humanity isn't ready to share things.
Arppis wrote...
And he did hire me to take care of collectors, blowing up the base was the plan all along, then at the last minute he presents me this deal that I should save it.
DJBare wrote...
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Pfft it is 4:30 am where I live. You aint worth it.
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Guest_Saphra Deden_*
DJBare wrote...
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Arppis wrote...
It does say something when humanity isn't ready to share things.
What is it humanity should be sharing?Arppis wrote...
And he did hire me to take care of collectors, blowing up the base was the plan all along, then at the last minute he presents me this deal that I should save it.
There as never any specific plan. When the Illusive Man saw an opportunity to maximize the victory over the Collectors he tried to act on it. Nothing unreasonable about that.
Even if the base isn't shared with all species it can still benefit all species by helping with the defeat of the Reapers.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Your'e not answering hte question - yoiu are dodging it. But I'll make it more edetailed, since you obviously do not get it...
How can you come to the quarians and ask them to make piece with the Geth?
How can you ask Krogans to work with Turians and Salarians?
How can you demend for every other faction to burrs their hatchets anmd get over their trust issues and hatered - when you yourself utterly refuse to do the same? Shouldn't Shepard lead by example?
Oh, and if your answer is "but they are Cerberus", then I'll coutner with:
Krogan/Quarian: "but they are Salarian/Turian/Geth"
Here's the thing. I gave Cerberus several chances to do something good in ME2, and they pissed it way. Especially with the whole "Cerberus is humanity" crap. It's obvious that they only care about themselves, so why the hell should I care about them, let alone waste time and resources on them?
Also, if you think that I have the same standard opinion of everyone in the galaxy just for the sake of giving them a fair chance, I can just tell you that I don't do it like that, since every faction has their own problem that varies in consequences and rewards. Like the krogan and salarians. Wost case scenario is that they remain in their current state and the salarians are just as uncooperative. With the quarians and the geth, the worst case scenario there is another war.
KotorEffect3 wrote...
"BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I AM SO SUPERIOR BLAH BLAH BLAH EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH ME SUCKS AND DOESNT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BLAH BLAH BLAH I KNOW GOOD WRITING BUT BIOWARE DOESN'T BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Pfft it is 4:30 am where I live. You aint worth it.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Arppis wrote...
There weren't only humans on that crew. They should be sharing the tech, so we would be able to defend the galaxy better against reapers when they come.
Saphra Deden wrote...
DJBare wrote...
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.
Actually it shows our commitment and honest. Even when we know how the choices will turn out we still defend them because we don't meta-game.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Arppis wrote...
There weren't only humans on that crew. They should be sharing the tech, so we would be able to defend the galaxy better against reapers when they come.
So what if they don't share the tech?
What if you could give only your human squadmates an awesome gun but not your alien ones? Would you just opt not to use the gun at all?
That wouldn't make any sense if that were the case.
Is the galaxy worse off if one race has a weapon useful for killing Reapers that they don't share?
Or is it worse off if nobody has a useful weapon for killing Reapers?
DJBare wrote...
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Pfft it is 4:30 am where I live. You aint worth it.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Arppis wrote...
Yet you are ready smash other people's decissions to the ground with hard force and call them dishonest, even when they neccessarily aren't.
Arppis wrote...
Most likely Paragon players are fueled by need to save as many lives as possible and not to involve civilians. I always try to maximize the survivor count because I care about people and WANT them to work together against Reapers, not just bulwark the humanity only. Because it is very short-sighted.
Arppis wrote...
Other races have many amazing things to offer, so why not share and work to common goal?
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
DJBare wrote...
They are trolling, upto now they've been pretty good at it, but continuing their argument when they've been shown details of the upcoming game is pretty blatant, you can see their pattern in other threads where morality is mentioned.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Pfft it is 4:30 am where I live. You aint worth it.
ME3 is irrelevant to the discussion - since Shepard doesn't know at hteh time of hte CB decision about the future....but I know that you cannot justify anything without it (even when meta-gaming).
Arppis wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
Arppis wrote...
There weren't only humans on that crew. They should be sharing the tech, so we would be able to defend the galaxy better against reapers when they come.
So what if they don't share the tech?
What if you could give only your human squadmates an awesome gun but not your alien ones? Would you just opt not to use the gun at all?
That wouldn't make any sense if that were the case.
Is the galaxy worse off if one race has a weapon useful for killing Reapers that they don't share?
Or is it worse off if nobody has a useful weapon for killing Reapers?
I wouldn't give that gun to a stranger who just walked in a room. Who knows what he will do with it.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Arppis wrote...
Other races have many amazing things to offer, so why not share and work to common goal?
I never said we shouldn't.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Arppis wrote...
I wouldn't give that gun to a stranger who just walked in a room. Who knows what he will do with it.
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