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[Zkyire]

android654 wrote...

Gaseous Shepard wrote... Looks like just the opposite of Kaidan.

That's why you pick 'em. He looks like an actual man, Kaidan felt spineless and weak all of the time. Vega's serious at his work and has no time for bulls**t. When he's not on the job he's easy to get along with and is very amiable towards the whole ship. Simply put, he's the type of person you'd want to hang out with because he knows how not be a bummer unless the situation is serious.

I'm also not getting what people here have against him being designed like an athlete. He is a soldier, he has to be ready to do his job and that requires him to be physically fit for that role. Unless a lot of people here ift the gamer stereotype, then that explains a thing or two....

Kaidan is a biotic. Vega isn't. It makes sense for Vega to put more emphasis into his physical body as much as possible.

Krogan are stronger and tougher than Humans.

Turians are tougher at least what with those scaley bits on their bodies (not sure about stronger though).

Asari are generally superior biotics.

Human soldiers who aren't biotics will have to push themselves extra hard, compared to the Human soldiers of today who only have to contend with other Humans.

Vega's physique makes sense.

That and from what I've seen of him so far, he seems like a more fun person than Kaidan, and were I to make a femshep, he'd be the one I'd go for.

Kaidan is too "Aw man, I got a headache. Aw man I had a bad past. Aw man another headache."

[Gaseous Shepard]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Friction between Vega and Kaidan? Hmmm. No, I think they'll probably bond over their mutual 'OMG what was Shepard THINKING joining Cerberus?!' grouchiness.

Yes, it depends on how Bioware goes with it. I know the have made some female LI's have a rivalry and wondered, if they may do the same here.

We shall see.

Modifié par Gaseous Shepard, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:13 .

[Aggie Punbot]

Gaseous Shepard wrote...

I just know that Kaidan has a huge female following (since he is the only human option from the past) and I was wondering if some possible friction between the two might actually cause Vega to be hated by female players. 

I doubt it. If my time on the internet has taught me anything, it's that people will always appreciate a buff body.

[Zkyire]

Stanley Woo wrote...

We already have a "who are you going to romance?" thread in this forum. If this is the only kind of "heterosexual relationships" discussion that's going to happen in the thread, it's going to be shut down with a directive to join the romance thread already in progress.

If you shut down this thread then you should also shut down the S/S thread here.

Otherwise that's a giant double standard.

[Gaseous Shepard]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Gaseous Shepard wrote...

I just know that Kaidan has a huge female following (since he is the only human option from the past) and I was wondering if some possible friction between the two might actually cause Vega to be hated by female players. 

I doubt it. If my time on the internet has taught me anything, it's that people will always appreciate a buff body.

That heals all huh?

[HolyAvenger]

centauri2002 wrote...

I didn't feel like any of the male romance options suited my FemShep. She needed someone on an equal footing to her and, especially in the first game, everyone was a subordinate. That's the problem with her being in the military, I suppose. In the second game, the situation was similar. Even the non-military types didn't seem to challenge her authority enough. My FemShep needs someone who will be both her physical and intellectual equal. Whilst Garrus may have filled that role, all I could think of was Shepard being his mentor in the first game. I don't see them making Vega much more than another military subordinate as well. Kaiden's a bit more promising for ME3 and, if I do play a het romance at some point, I'm hoping they'll have him challenging her a bit more.

Eh, I mean that's very YMMV but I thought I was quite interesting that they let Shep romance subordinates. I think the power dynamic was less of a big deal to me because Shep is out of the military hierarchy/system right from the start of the first game. 

As for challenging Shep- that goes for all the romances, there's really no one who will stand up him or her intellectually or physically (that's part of Shep's MarySue tendencies). 

Vega...could be interesting need to see more of his character. I don't have any totally romance-free imports so we'll have to see how that goes.

[ElitePinecone]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Eh, I mean that's very YMMV but I thought I was quite interesting that they let Shep romance subordinates. I think the power dynamic was less of a big deal to me because Shep is out of the military hierarchy/system right from the start of the first game. 

As for challenging Shep- that goes for all the romances, there's really no one who will stand up him or her intellectually or physically (that's part of Shep's MarySue tendencies). 

Vega...could be interesting need to see more of his character. I don't have any totally romance-free imports so we'll have to see how that goes.

It's why I always felt more uncomfortable with ME's romances as compared to, say, KoTOR, JE, or DA. 

Mass Effect is a much more militaristic game, and even if Shepard is freed from a lot of these trappings through Spectre status or being with Cerberus, the superior/subordinate thing is still hard to get around. Much more than those other games, the squad feel like they're coming under Shepard's command rather than joining up in pursuit of some common cause. 

Especially with Vega, Bioware are pushing the 'inexperience versus wisdom' angle and Shepard as a mentor - if femShep is a romance option (her weirdly young new 'default' persona aside) it'd still feel like an older superior taking advantage of someone who couldn't hope to match her. Not just physically, but in terms of the public spotlight, battle experience, accomplishments... 

[android654]

ElitePinecone wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Eh, I mean that's very YMMV but I thought I was quite interesting that they let Shep romance subordinates. I think the power dynamic was less of a big deal to me because Shep is out of the military hierarchy/system right from the start of the first game. 

As for challenging Shep- that goes for all the romances, there's really no one who will stand up him or her intellectually or physically (that's part of Shep's MarySue tendencies). 

Vega...could be interesting need to see more of his character. I don't have any totally romance-free imports so we'll have to see how that goes.

It's why I always felt more uncomfortable with ME's romances as compared to, say, KoTOR, JE, or DA. 

Mass Effect is a much more militaristic game, and even if Shepard is freed from a lot of these trappings through Spectre status or being with Cerberus, the superior/subordinate thing is still hard to get around. Much more than those other games, the squad feel like they're coming under Shepard's command rather than joining up in pursuit of some common cause. 

Especially with Vega, Bioware are pushing the 'inexperience versus wisdom' angle and Shepard as a mentor - if femShep is a romance option (her weirdly young new 'default' persona aside) it'd still feel like an older superior taking advantage of someone who couldn't hope to match her. Not just physically, but in terms of the public spotlight, battle experience, accomplishments... 

Commanding officer commanding a subordinate to giver her thirty laps... in the pool I mean.

But in all seriousness, the rank of the military members shouldn't interfere with that. Even if Shepard is the commander, she's still a person underneath and that's the part that should be making the connection, not their ranks.

[Unschuld]

Zkyire wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

We already have a "who are you going to romance?" thread in this forum. If this is the only kind of "heterosexual relationships" discussion that's going to happen in the thread, it's going to be shut down with a directive to join the romance thread already in progress.

If you shut down this thread then you should also shut down the S/S thread here.

Otherwise that's a giant double standard.

*thumbs up*

[nelly21]

Unschuld wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

We already have a "who are you going to romance?" thread in this forum. If this is the only kind of "heterosexual relationships" discussion that's going to happen in the thread, it's going to be shut down with a directive to join the romance thread already in progress.

If you shut down this thread then you should also shut down the S/S thread here.

Otherwise that's a giant double standard.

*thumbs up*

LOL.

I think Stanley saw the title of the thread and thought it would be a gay bashing land mine. To be honest, I thought the same when I read the title. Pleaseantly enough, it has been very civil and very enjoyable. Sometimes there are sparks of hope on BSN. Then I go to general discussion and all hope is extinguished.

[What a Succulent Ass]

That heals all huh?

Didn't help Jacob.

[Gaseous Shepard]

Random Jerkface wrote...

That heals all huh?

Didn't help Jacob.

Yes, it doesn't seem many people around here care to "get loud, and spill some drinks on the Citadel." with poor ole Jacob.

[syllogi]

ElitePinecone wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Eh, I mean that's very YMMV but I thought I was quite interesting that they let Shep romance subordinates. I think the power dynamic was less of a big deal to me because Shep is out of the military hierarchy/system right from the start of the first game. 

As for challenging Shep- that goes for all the romances, there's really no one who will stand up him or her intellectually or physically (that's part of Shep's MarySue tendencies). 

Vega...could be interesting need to see more of his character. I don't have any totally romance-free imports so we'll have to see how that goes.

It's why I always felt more uncomfortable with ME's romances as compared to, say, KoTOR, JE, or DA. 

Mass Effect is a much more militaristic game, and even if Shepard is freed from a lot of these trappings through Spectre status or being with Cerberus, the superior/subordinate thing is still hard to get around. Much more than those other games, the squad feel like they're coming under Shepard's command rather than joining up in pursuit of some common cause. 

Especially with Vega, Bioware are pushing the 'inexperience versus wisdom' angle and Shepard as a mentor - if femShep is a romance option (her weirdly young new 'default' persona aside) it'd still feel like an older superior taking advantage of someone who couldn't hope to match her. Not just physically, but in terms of the public spotlight, battle experience, accomplishments... 

Yep, I was willing to suspend disbelief with Kaidan in ME1, because it was on the eve of battle and they were swept up in the moment and all that jazz, but I still felt like if I were strictly roleplaying my character the way I imagined her, she would have politely told Kaidan to leave that night.  Only problem with actually doing that is that Kaidan (and Ashley) somehow think that Shepard rocked their world the night before Ilos when they refer to it in ME2.  I honestly don't know how I will feel about trying to romance another character with that unbalanced power dynamic, unless it's addressed and somehow the game puts me at ease about Shepard's relationship with Vega being on an equal level.

Also, as a female with a name used in several songs, I'm just not a fan of Vega's nickname for FemShep, at all.  He's going to have to be amazingly charismatic to make up for that.

[ADLegend21]

haynoats wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Gaseous Shepard wrote...

I've found a thread for pretty much every group exist, with exception of  the heterosexual players only (Yes, we do exist). I'm starting this thread for discussion on just that.

Male & Female Sheps heterosexual relationships and what you want to see in Mass Effect 3.

There is absolutely no need for this thread. I'm the OP of the Ashley ME3 Thread and I'm pretty much the only person in the thread that refers to Shepard as female. We have dialogues, captions, screenshots and fan arts and besides me and anotehr poster the Shepard's are all Male (Sheploo mostly) and my poor femshep is te only girl not named Ashley in the thread. Even the Kaidan thread, you seen femshep art, femshep fan fic, femsheps and every thing. same with Garrus, Thane, Tali, Miranda, Jack, and Jacob. Hell the WORLD nowadays is Heterosexual until proven Gay. That's why there's a Same Sex romance hread because it's not the standard. It's like Having a Maleshep thread when all the screenshots, trailers, gameplay demo's and such ARE maleshep. The standard doesn't need to be spotlighted because it's the standard. It's the "unsung" things that need to be spot lighted, Femshep is FINALLY gettting a trailer because her fans asked for it, Same sex romance needs it's own thread because the fans asked for it. This thread is redundant and should be closed.

I understand that you are mad about the fact that not a lot of people seem to share your obsession with Ashley/Femshep stuff. But that doesn't mean this thread is redundant. You really should learn to accept differing opinions.

Firts of Errol, yes it is. This has nothing do do with me, even though you make it seem like it, but as I said in my post Every thread Thread for a romanceable Character has countless pieces of Heterosexual content. This is not asking for heterosexual romances this is dicussing already existing content which is taking away posts from existing threads. it's the definition of redundant

Second Hayonats You're an outspoken S/S Basher so you cosigning does nothing to Help Errol's point.

[What a Succulent Ass]

You know, I honestly don't care either way, since I only came into this thread with the idle curiosity of if it would have gaybashing. But since it doesn't, there's no reason for you to be here. Let it run its course and allow it to be closed on its own, if need be.

In the meanwhile, there's little point in posting solely to vent your butthurt.

[android654]

Random Jerkface wrote...

You know, I honestly don't care either way, since I only came into this thread with the idle curiosity of if it would have gaybashing. But since it doesn't, there's no reason for you to be here. Let it run its course and allow it to be closed on its own, if need be.

In the meanwhile, there's little point in posting solely to vent your butthurt.

She's got a point.

[ravene]

I have a single femshep with ash alive to try vega and maby joker if bioware takes pitty on us joker fans, have 4 faithfull femsheps for kaiden 1 with thayne and 1 that is single but kaidan is alive so will see how that goes plans are to romance kaidan in 3 if posable.

as for vega not shrue how his character arc will go so far he seems ok not for or against him at this point.

as for kaidan i really love his charter in 1, 2 gave us a verry short camo that i hated but I place the blame were it belongs on the bioware team for the bad dilog choices...
will see how bioware handles him in 3.

thayne was an ok romance will see how his arc goes in 3.

[Ryzaki]

Random Jerkface wrote...

You know, I honestly don't care either way, since I only came into this thread with the idle curiosity of if it would have gaybashing. But since it doesn't, there's no reason for you to be here. Let it run its course and allow it to be closed on its own, if need be.

In the meanwhile, there's little point in posting solely to vent your butthurt.

This.

If there was gaybashing then AD you'd have a point. As it is just leave the thread if it bothers you.

[ADLegend21]

haynoats wrote...

Wrong. Not a basher and certainly not an outspoken one. Just intolerant of intolerance. Your kind of intolerance that is unleashed on anyone that does not agree with YOU. This post is no more redundant as the s/s thread since by your argument...all character romance posts also include some discussion of s/s romances. So take your own advice and stay out of the thread if it offends you. Otherwise be a good kid and go play in the dirt.

And thanks for making Errol's point.

Really? You seem to be one of the people that started fights in the 1.1 because Femshep was taking up all of dudesheps talk and you'd sit in your little hidey hole of a group taking shots oat people you if you're "intolerant of intolerance" You should have been discouraging the bashing of Femshep and Ashley pics instead of partaking it. This thread does not offend me as Heterosexuality does not offend heterosexuals.

Little bit of Information, after the "Commander Shepard fan thread" which houses discussions of both Male and Female Shepard femshep fans asked Stanley Woo if we could have our own thread because of the hardcore dudeshep and hardocre femshep players weren't getting along, he told us no as there was already a place for Shepard discussions and we had to use that unless it was closed because it couldn't function. This is the SAME thing. Character romance threads already contain their heterosexual romance discussion and the expectations for their Mass Effect 3 Chapters therefore it is redundant.

There are people who post in the Fight for the Love thread that do post in here, even though the two threads are not similar as one is to show support for content to be put in the game instead of content that's already in the game.

You seem to be the only one offended here Hayonats and that sounds like a personal problem to me.

[Stardusk78]

ElitePinecone wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Eh, I mean that's very YMMV but I thought I was quite interesting that they let Shep romance subordinates. I think the power dynamic was less of a big deal to me because Shep is out of the military hierarchy/system right from the start of the first game. 

As for challenging Shep- that goes for all the romances, there's really no one who will stand up him or her intellectually or physically (that's part of Shep's MarySue tendencies). 

Vega...could be interesting need to see more of his character. I don't have any totally romance-free imports so we'll have to see how that goes.

It's why I always felt more uncomfortable with ME's romances as compared to, say, KoTOR, JE, or DA. 

Mass Effect is a much more militaristic game, and even if Shepard is freed from a lot of these trappings through Spectre status or being with Cerberus, the superior/subordinate thing is still hard to get around. Much more than those other games, the squad feel like they're coming under Shepard's command rather than joining up in pursuit of some common cause. 

Especially with Vega, Bioware are pushing the 'inexperience versus wisdom' angle and Shepard as a mentor - if femShep is a romance option (her weirdly young new 'default' persona aside) it'd still feel like an older superior taking advantage of someone who couldn't hope to match her. Not just physically, but in terms of the public spotlight, battle experience, accomplishments... 

So what? In real life one partner is ALWAYS more dominant than the other, just the way it is, so it makes sense in the game too.

[What a Succulent Ass]

One partner isn't always "dominant." Woe on the one who believes it has to be so.

[android654]

Random Jerkface wrote...

One partner isn't always "dominant." Woe on the one who believes it has to be so.

Unless there's leather and iron involved, then its mandatory.

[What a Succulent Ass]

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