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Please, please. My fellow forumites. I was just responding to my muse. I was inspired, you might say, by the greatness of Dietz. My scholar. My friend.

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I got to say this is probably my favorite thread on the forum, mostly because everyone is pretty much united in their hatred of this.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, and he contradicts his own plot points:

Udina (who he oddly avoids naming, as if unaware that that's canon now):

"I can’t explain where Grayson’s implants came from, or what their purpose was, but Cerberus is known for its cruelty.


TIM a scant few pages later:

"And in spite of Anderson and Sanders’s efforts to warn the Council members about the Reapers, they blame Cerberus for what took place. I don’t like that. Our credibility is at stake.

Also, TIM was pleased to have Anderson working on the Reaper threat, and while he didn't see it as ideal, content to let Grayson's corpse stay where it was.


Hmh, that would come from Illusive Man's mouth.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, and he contradicts his own plot points:

Udina (who he oddly avoids naming, as if unaware that that's canon now):


Doesn't he also say that Anderson used to be the human council member. Does that make this canon as well? Or is this a special kind of Dietz-canon?

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If we'd follow the time line according to the book, the Reapers would have already taken over the Citadel by the time all those events takes place.

Bleh. Hiring someone from this forum would be a lot cheaper and better.

I refuse to take anything from this bar napkin fanfic as canon, by the way.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 24 janvier 2012 - 06:42 .


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izmirtheastarach wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, and he contradicts his own plot points:

Udina (who he oddly avoids naming, as if unaware that that's canon now):


Doesn't he also say that Anderson used to be the human council member. Does that make this canon as well? Or is this a special kind of Dietz-canon?


He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.

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Everything in this novel may very well be a special kind of Dietz canon.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, and he contradicts his own plot points:

Udina (who he oddly avoids naming, as if unaware that that's canon now):


Doesn't he also say that Anderson used to be the human council member. Does that make this canon as well? Or is this a special kind of Dietz-canon?


In the coming days, expect strong defensive arguments by the Neodietzists, a cult of Dietz-worshipping diehards who adhere only to the Dietz-canon and will never touch the games again. Neodietzism is already widely accepted among batarian slavers, who have been paid off in Tantalus drive cores and Prothean eggs from distant galaxies.

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Mesina2 wrote...
He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.


It says he was "the Alliance’s representative to the Citadel Council"

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Someone With Mass wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Honestly wondering if Dietz meant to imply he was "Father of Maynar".


That would be even worse, since it'd only show that he has no clue about how quarian titles (and then some) works.

He obviously must have some idea of how quarian titles work, since he seems to get the translation for "Gillian nar Idenna" right (although he does capitalize "nar" for some reason, which is also incorrect...).

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.


It says he was "the Alliance’s representative to the Citadel Council"


Yeah, but that doesn't say he was a Councilor.

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JeffZero wrote...
In the coming days, expect strong defensive arguments by the Neodietzists, a cult of Dietz-worshipping diehards who adhere only to the Dietz-canon and will never touch the games again. Neodietzism is already widely accepted among batarian slavers, who have been paid off in Tantalus drive cores and Prothean eggs from distant galaxies.


Paid by volus crime lords born on Earth, who later were adopted by rachni.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Everything in this novel may very well be a special kind of Dietz canon.


Dietz canon is now going to be my code phrase for "nonsensical crap."

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Someone With Mass wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
In the coming days, expect strong defensive arguments by the Neodietzists, a cult of Dietz-worshipping diehards who adhere only to the Dietz-canon and will never touch the games again. Neodietzism is already widely accepted among batarian slavers, who have been paid off in Tantalus drive cores and Prothean eggs from distant galaxies.


Paid by volus crime lords born on Earth, who later were adopted by rachni.


Greetings, Earth people.

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AVPen wrote...
He obviously must have some idea of how quarian titles work, since he seems to get the translation for "Gillian nar Idenna" right (although to be fair, he does capitalize "nar" for some reason, which is also incorrect...).


Not even "nar" is right, because Gillian wasn't born on that ship.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...
Yeah,
let's go figure out what the Reapers are up to. Noo..wait our weird child who is actually an adult and shouldn't be here in the first place has joined a Biotic cult. Let's go deal with that instead of doing the thing we were just told to do.



Yeah what was up with dragging Nick along anyway?   "We may ask you to talk to the Council but we won't because then you couldn't run away while we were busy doing that because this book needed another wack-ass plot-point."

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Someone With Mass wrote...

AVPen wrote...
He obviously must have some idea of how quarian titles work, since he seems to get the translation for "Gillian nar Idenna" right (although to be fair, he does capitalize "nar" for some reason, which is also incorrect...).


Not even "nar" is right, because Gillian wasn't born on that ship.


I think the idea was she was sort of an honorary child of the ship. Then again, maybe that's being too charitable.

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Mesina2 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.


It says he was "the Alliance’s representative to the Citadel Council"


Yeah, but that doesn't say he was a Councilor.


I desperately don't want to be rude to you, but perhaps you are missing something in the language. The phrase "representive to the council" is literally the one that Anderson uses to refer to himself if you choose him as the human Council Member.

But whatever, no need to argue about this terrible book.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

AVPen wrote...
He obviously must have some idea of how quarian titles work, since he seems to get the translation for "Gillian nar Idenna" right (although to be fair, he does capitalize "nar" for some reason, which is also incorrect...).


Not even "nar" is right, because Gillian wasn't born on that ship.

lol, I said he got the translation right.... I didn't say anything about him getting the meaning and application of the word right. :P

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didymos1120 wrote...

Yeah what was up with dragging Nick along anyway?   "We may ask you to talk to the Council but we won't because then you couldn't run away while we were busy doing that because this book needed another wack-ass plot-point."


In case the council, who as you know totally ignores advice from the saviour of the damn galaxy (Staff Sargent Shephard) , wants to hear some expert testmony from a teenage boy.

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didymos1120 wrote...

I think the idea was she was sort of an honorary child of the ship. Then again, maybe that's being too charitable.


Way too much credit.

Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if he states somewhere that the drug red sand is made out of the sand from Mars' surface and it affects anything.

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Theory, remember when Shepard got drunk on radioactive Krogan booze at that Citadel bar, this what they dreamed about before waking up in the restroom.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.


It says he was "the Alliance’s representative to the Citadel Council"


Yeah, but that doesn't say he was a Councilor.


I desperately don't want to be rude to you, but perhaps you are missing something in the language. The phrase "representive to the council" is literally the one that Anderson uses to refer to himself if you choose him as the human Council Member.

But whatever, no need to argue about this terrible book.



Ah well.

Even Drew did that f*ck up.


He made Udina a Councilor by canon.

Though then again, Anderson might have resigned if he was a Councilor, so my point was probably thrown out of window.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Ah well.

Even Drew did that f*ck up.


He made Udina a Councilor by canon.

Though then again, Anderson might have resigned if he was a Councilor, so my point was probably thrown out of window.


I think the real point is that Dietz threw a lot out the window.

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The PLC wrote...

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The PLC wrote...

Oh, so they're still trying to prove the existence of the Reapers to the council? EVEN THOUGH 6 YEARS HAS PASSED SINCE ME1?! Seriously! What!? Why is this so confusing?!


Less then 3 years passed between end of ME1 and Deception.

Then why does it say that Gillian has been with the Migrant Fleet for six years? 


Because Dietz f*cked up the timeline.