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[didymos1120]

Mesina2 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
He said he represented humanity in Council.

So question is, as an  councilor or councilor's adviser?

Either of those are true for all playthrough's.

It says he was "the Alliance’s representative to the Citadel Council"

Yeah, but that doesn't say he was a Councilor.

He actually doesn't ever use the term "Councilor" at all, which is a mistake in itself.  It's always "Council member" or "[insert species here] member".  Kind of like how in The Room, it's always "my future wife" instead of just "fiancee". Only not hilarious.

Modifié par didymos1120, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

TheCreeper wrote...

Theory, remember when Shepard got drunk on radioactive Krogan booze at that Citadel bar, this what they dreamed about before waking up in the restroom.

Shepard is dreaming about underage girls and boys running around on the Citadel and Kai Leng interrupting auctions on the batarian homeworld?

I think that booze somehow melted the implants that keeps Shepard's skull intact.

[didymos1120]

Mesina2 wrote...

Even Drew did that f*ck up.

He made Udina a Councilor by canon.

That was a deliberate choice. Agree or disagree, it wasn't a @#$%-up.

[izmirtheastarach]

As you know, at least we got a great meme out of all this.

[CroGamer002]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I think the real point is that Dietz threw a lot out the window.

To be fair, he didn't know ME lore too well when he was hired and after writing Deception he probably missed few facts and misunderstood others.


And since Bioware devs are too busy with ME3, they couldn't corrected him or just skimmed through his book for plot points they wanted and didn't noticed errors, since they are busy with ME3 again.

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Even Drew did that f*ck up.

He made Udina a Councilor by canon.

That was a deliberate choice. Agree or disagree, it wasn't a @#$%-up.

Many still called it a f*ck up.

[TheCreeper]

Someone With Mass wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Theory, remember when Shepard got drunk on radioactive Krogan booze at that Citadel bar, this what they dreamed about before waking up in the restroom.

Shepard is dreaming about underage girls and boys running around on the Citadel and Kai Leng interrupting auctions on the batarian homeworld?

I think that booze somehow melted the implants that keeps Shepard's skull intact.

Krogan booze does weird things to you man.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Are all Dietz's novels this awful? I can't imagine someone this horrid gets regularly published.

Lore mistakes aside, this is just a mess. An absolute casserole of nonsense.

[JeffZero]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Are all Dietz's novels this awful? I can't imagine someone this horrid gets regularly published.

Lore mistakes aside, this is just a mess. An absolute casserole of nonsense.

I don't know, but I was worried as soon as I read the fan response to his Halo novel. I remained cautious going into this and I'm glad I did. Tempered my expectations down to appropriate levels.

[didymos1120]

I think people should tweet the writing team all casual-like:

"Sooooooo....Deception. What do you all think of it? You've read it, right?"

[Someone With Mass]

I should just throw away my studies for the university and become a writer instead. Seems incredibly easy.

[JeffZero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I should just throw away my studies for the university and become a writer instead. Seems incredibly easy.

Yeah, one of the things I may pursue is scriptwriting and novel-writing. This fills me with a strange mixture of hope and dread, this excerpt.

[PlumPaul93]

So is Captain Anderson (whatever you want to call him now) really going to look like that? Might just be me but he looks waaay differenct than either ME1 or 2.

[JeffZero]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

So is Captain Anderson (whatever you want to call him now) really going to look like that? Might just be me but he looks waaay differenct than either ME1 or 2.

Cover artists often take some fairly extreme liberties. That said, Anderson definitely received some model modifications for ME3. Look no further than the plethora of Anderson screenshots available on the internet.

It isn't quite as extreme in-game as it appears in the artwork, though.

[TheCreeper]

I'm kinda curious if this will actually be mentioned in game like Ascension was.

[Maugrim]

I have a feeling Gillian's age isn't a mistake but a deliberate retcon which tbh I wouldn't have an issue with by itself if proven correct. It's all the other obvious lore mistakes that just make me roll my eyes. Going to have to hold my nose while I read this.

[CroGamer002]

makenzieshepard wrote...

I have a feeling Gillian's age isn't a mistake but a deliberate retcon which tbh I wouldn't have an issue with by itself if proven correct. It's all the other obvious lore mistakes that just make me roll my eyes. Going to have to hold my nose while I read this.

What makes you say that?

[didymos1120]

Even though the public had been forced to leave the amphitheater dozens of the Citadel’s employees were still present.

Not surprised "the public" was forced to leave, considering they shouldn't have even been there in the first place:

http://www.youtube.c...069vFm5M#t=6m44

[Maugrim]

Mesina2 wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

I have a feeling Gillian's age isn't a mistake but a deliberate retcon which tbh I wouldn't have an issue with by itself if proven correct. It's all the other obvious lore mistakes that just make me roll my eyes. Going to have to hold my nose while I read this.

What makes you say that?

Well considering that the story will apparently at least partially focus on Gillian, which has to be deliberate I can't imagine that they would want a pre-teen running around doing all the shennanigans that will undoubtedly be occuring.  Sure she took care of a few in the book before last but that was mostly a one off thing.  This is quite common in a lot of fiction where they want to tell the story about a child related to main characters but would otherwise have to wait X years for it to reasonably occur.  So they just retcon the childs age.  It's just a hunch I could be wrong.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:30 .

[izmirtheastarach]

didymos1120 wrote...

Even though the public had been forced to leave the amphitheater dozens of the Citadel’s employees were still present.

Not surprised "the public" was forced to leave, considering they shouldn't have even been there in the first place:

http://www.youtube.c...069vFm5M#t=6m44

It's not open to the public? lol.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:32 .

[didymos1120]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Even though the public had been forced to leave the amphitheater dozens of the Citadel’s employees were still present.

Not surprised "the public" was forced to leave, considering they shouldn't have even been there in the first place:

http://www.youtube.c...069vFm5M#t=6m44

It's not open to the public? lol.

Nope.  If you brag to Avina that you got an invite, she'll even be sure to tell you how lucky you are.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

JeffZero wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I should just throw away my studies for the university and become a writer instead. Seems incredibly easy.

Yeah, one of the things I may pursue is scriptwriting and novel-writing. This fills me with a strange mixture of hope and dread, this excerpt.

These were my thoughts exactly.  I'm writing my first novel, and after reading some of Deception... well, I hate to say something that might insult someone's work, but even the sentence structure in my rough draft was a lot better than this. The things I give so much attention to, like word flow and correct details, don't seem to be a big focus here.

Of course, I'll still read Deception, but for information only. Kai Leng and TIM are two of my favorite characters.

[didymos1120]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Well considering that the story will apparently at least partially focus on Gillian, which has to be deliberate I can't imagine that they would want a pre-teen running around doing all the shennanigans that will undoubtedly be occuring.  Sure she took care of a few in the book before last but that was mostly a one off thing.  This is quite common in a lot of fiction where they want to tell the story about a child related to main characters but would otherwise have to wait X years for it to reasonably occur.  So they just retcon the childs age.  It's just a hunch I could be wrong.

Well, they've not hesitated to have children have awful things happen to them in the games (e.g. Talitha's story, the kids on Pragia) and novels so far, and Gillian squashed a guy with a forklift in Ascension, when she was only twelve.  And she'd be sixteen if Dietz had followed the timeline. Plenty of characters that age doing crazy stuff in all sorts of shows, films, novels, etc.

Modifié par didymos1120, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:39 .

[AVPen]

A better summary of Deception so far would be:

Modifié par AVPen, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:39 .