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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

You take what Mr. Dietz said about the deadline of his Halo novel, apply it to Deception and act as if that's the only reasonable explanation?


I can't understand why it's so bad.  Extreme time limitations seemed to make sense, since in the article he said that was common with game novels.  So I'm looking for a reasonable explanation.  Obviously I'm being dense because you think the idea I seized upon is funny, so what's your explanation as to why the writing is so bad?

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GMagnum wrote...

aye mayb he wus typin da story den he had 2 use da bathroom he had 2 take number 2 den when he finish he flush da toilet n den da swirl of da toilet suk him inside he swirlin n da toilet n he lyke omg o noooooo wat happenin den he suk in2 da drain den he keep gettin suked by da water den he come out da pipe n he get up n luk around n he n da middle of nowhere den he see sumthin comin toward him he lyke omg wat dat den it com close n he hella horrifiy cuz it a man w/ nipples 4 legs den da dude say dat ur da chosen 1 2 save us frum da niptrix n den da dude is lyke wat da niptrix n da dude is lyke dat where all da nipple ppl r n den he lyke ok let go den da dude fly away w/ his nipples as wing w/ da writer on da dude bak den dey land in da nipple hq den da dude sit down n da chair n den he jack in2 da niptrix n den he meet w/ agent areola n den da writer say ur goin down areola den dey fite n den areola whoop dis dude azz den he lyke omg how do i win den his father appear as a hologram n den he lyke omg dad is dat u den he say do dat thing u saw i did 2 ur mom wen u walk in on us n da bedroom den da writer get up den twist areola nipple den areola omg nooooo dat my weakness den da writer kick da dude in da mouf n den he die den areola die n den he come bak 2 da land of nipple n den he lyke omg i save yall n den da nippel ppl lyke omg thnx u get 24/7 acces 2 female nipple den dey send him bak home n den he luk @ da clock n he only got an hour 2 write da story so he jump on da comp n den write da story den turn it in den he hella stress n den he go bak 2 nipple wurld 2 get sum more nipple 2 destress himself n not care about wat happen next n den he luk @ da horizon n den da credit roll tbh

Another magnificent story, GMagnum; I think you should have written the book instead of him.

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

aye mayb he wus typin da story den he had 2 use da bathroom he had 2 take number 2 den when he finish he flush da toilet n den da swirl of da toilet suk him inside he swirlin n da toilet n he lyke omg o noooooo wat happenin den he suk in2 da drain den he keep gettin suked by da water den he come out da pipe n he get up n luk around n he n da middle of nowhere den he see sumthin comin toward him he lyke omg wat dat den it com close n he hella horrifiy cuz it a man w/ nipples 4 legs den da dude say dat ur da chosen 1 2 save us frum da niptrix n den da dude is lyke wat da niptrix n da dude is lyke dat where all da nipple ppl r n den he lyke ok let go den da dude fly away w/ his nipples as wing w/ da writer on da dude bak den dey land in da nipple hq den da dude sit down n da chair n den he jack in2 da niptrix n den he meet w/ agent areola n den da writer say ur goin down areola den dey fite n den areola whoop dis dude azz den he lyke omg how do i win den his father appear as a hologram n den he lyke omg dad is dat u den he say do dat thing u saw i did 2 ur mom wen u walk in on us n da bedroom den da writer get up den twist areola nipple den areola omg nooooo dat my weakness den da writer kick da dude in da mouf n den he die den areola die n den he come bak 2 da land of nipple n den he lyke omg i save yall n den da nippel ppl lyke omg thnx u get 24/7 acces 2 female nipple den dey send him bak home n den he luk @ da clock n he only got an hour 2 write da story so he jump on da comp n den write da story den turn it in den he hella stress n den he go bak 2 nipple wurld 2 get sum more nipple 2 destress himself n not care about wat happen next n den he luk @ da horizon n den da credit roll tbh

Another magnificent story, GMagnum; I think you should have written the book instead of him.

omg hella gud bronie tbh

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

I can't understand why it's so bad.  Extreme time limitations seemed to make sense, since in the article he said that was common with game novels.  So I'm looking for a reasonable explanation.  Obviously I'm being dense because you think the idea I seized upon is funny, so what's your explanation as to why the writing is so bad?

He's a terrible hack working for a paycheck, he doesn't care at all about the subject matter, and the book was not proofed any member of the Mass Effect writing team. Pretty straightforward.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 25 janvier 2012 - 04:08 .


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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

You take what Mr. Dietz said about the deadline of his Halo novel, apply it to Deception and act as if that's the only reasonable explanation?


I can't understand why it's so bad.  Extreme time limitations seemed to make sense, since in the article he said that was common with game novels.  So I'm looking for a reasonable explanation.  Obviously I'm being dense because you think the idea I seized upon is funny, so what's your explanation as to why the writing is so bad?


You know, it's not even worth trying to speculate here, so forget it. Short story short: Dietz wrote a bad tie-in.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

He's a terrible hack working for a paycheck,


Izmir, he can't be this bad.  It's worse than fan fiction: it's as though it was written by somebody with no idea how to structure fiction.  It can't simply be a lack of chops.  There's something more to this.

izmirtheastarach wrote...
he doesn't care at all about the subject matter,


That I can agree with.  Or at least, I see no evidence to the contrary.

izmirtheastarach wrote...
and the book was not proofed any member of the Mass Effect writing team.


The lore errors are evidence of that.

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This thread has been so entertaining that I've decided to contribute despite my general lurking. I've found a much more complete preview of the book on books.google, albeit with many intermittent pages missing throughout. If anyone would like to immerse themselves further in Dietz's mess you can check it out here: http://books.google....ception&f=false

All in all, the writing is extremely cringeworthy and can't hold a candle to Drew's novels, which is a shame, b/c if written better the plot definitely had the potential to be quite interesting. I've actually managed to get a hold of a full version of the novel via ebook, but I don't want to spoil anything so all I'm going to say is that there seems to be a big focus on Kai Leng and his general badassery. If the novel has one saving grace it's that Dietz did do a good job of building up the character in anticipation for ME3, though I still felt there's a lot of potential wasted overall.

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I really wish there was an option to change our handles here. I think being known as 'Roly-Poly Volus' would have a certain charm to it. <3

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Izmir, he can't be this bad.  It's worse than fan fiction: it's as though it was written by somebody with no idea how to structure fiction.  It can't simply be a lack of chops.  There's something more to this.


It seems like he does have fans. Someone must appreciate his work. But yeah, it's just terribly written to start with, even without all the other complaints we have.

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rapunzel696 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

aye mayb he wus typin da story den he had 2 use da bathroom he had 2 take number 2 den when he finish he flush da toilet n den da swirl of da toilet suk him inside he swirlin n da toilet n he lyke omg o noooooo wat happenin den he suk in2 da drain den he keep gettin suked by da water den he come out da pipe n he get up n luk around n he n da middle of nowhere den he see sumthin comin toward him he lyke omg wat dat den it com close n he hella horrifiy cuz it a man w/ nipples 4 legs den da dude say dat ur da chosen 1 2 save us frum da niptrix n den da dude is lyke wat da niptrix n da dude is lyke dat where all da nipple ppl r n den he lyke ok let go den da dude fly away w/ his nipples as wing w/ da writer on da dude bak den dey land in da nipple hq den da dude sit down n da chair n den he jack in2 da niptrix n den he meet w/ agent areola n den da writer say ur goin down areola den dey fite n den areola whoop dis dude azz den he lyke omg how do i win den his father appear as a hologram n den he lyke omg dad is dat u den he say do dat thing u saw i did 2 ur mom wen u walk in on us n da bedroom den da writer get up den twist areola nipple den areola omg nooooo dat my weakness den da writer kick da dude in da mouf n den he die den areola die n den he come bak 2 da land of nipple n den he lyke omg i save yall n den da nippel ppl lyke omg thnx u get 24/7 acces 2 female nipple den dey send him bak home n den he luk @ da clock n he only got an hour 2 write da story so he jump on da comp n den write da story den turn it in den he hella stress n den he go bak 2 nipple wurld 2 get sum more nipple 2 destress himself n not care about wat happen next n den he luk @ da horizon n den da credit roll tbh

Another magnificent story, GMagnum; I think you should have written the book instead of him.

omg hella gud bronie tbh


aye ma boi gmag kno his shyt tbh

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mineralica wrote...

So, human can walk on batarian homeworld without being mistook for escaped slave or something. And doesn't get angry shouts or bucket of filth on head or something.

So, batarian ships have Tantalus core. I guess Alliance can close eyes on possible Cerberus spies while they have THAT around.

So, Gillian ages both for own years and Shepard's since Shepard's death. Because Commander is that awesome.

So, aliens need to meet in person to have an auction. And they don't have armed guards in actual room.

So TIM gives two craps about bioweapon while sitting at faraway station with only chosen people around.

So Council doesn't believe that Reaper on roof is not geth technology and ridicule Shepard in ME2, but Anderson with lousy corpse of unknown origin is enough to make them consider Reaper theory in public and more or less seriously.

So... batarians have embassy.

So quarians which claim that they can assemble almost everything from junk get Gillian new human armor instead of remaking quarian one.

So Cerberus agents openly admits in being such with quarians around. PM me when Cerberus will start to issue badges and t-shirts.


So Hendel Mitra doesn't have a problem with Cerberus agent around. Or trusting such agent. Or being ordered by "barely adult".

So turian and salarian teenagers have own biotic supremacy organisation. Of course it's reasonable for this races which just discovered effects of eezo and biotics are new for such societies.

So what people do after finding out their father was killed? Note said father was drug addict they barely saw, plus said father was the reason of autism, plus there was awesome teacher who "cured" (!) autism and said father was not seen in... years? Of course, abandon the only people who cared about you and risk your life on a way of revenge!!! Bonus points because this information was from the most untrusted source possible.

Oh well.

*  Facepalm * Seriously ???? I didn't read that part. Kudo, Bioware. <_<

Otherwise, everything about batarians, humans, makes me cringe.

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Things I learned from reading this extract:

1. Apparently it had taken many weeks of effort to track the object from the point where it had been stolen to the batarian homeworld and the ancient city of Thondu.

2. The Citadel is star-shaped

3. Some volus are roly-poly

4. Turians have saints

5. Turians can cry

6. Some volus are fat, others aren't (they all look the same to me)

7. Gillian is just fine

8. Everything is powered by "a mass effect field"

9. You can follow up a question from Anderson with: "Anderson wanted to know"

10. Dietz is either terrible or the greatest troll ever


What do you think, Stephen Fry?

Modifié par JoeLaTurkey, 25 janvier 2012 - 04:56 .


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Ravensword wrote...

rapunzel696 wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

aye mayb he wus typin da story den he had 2 use da bathroom he had 2 take number 2 den when he finish he flush da toilet n den da swirl of da toilet suk him inside he swirlin n da toilet n he lyke omg o noooooo wat happenin den he suk in2 da drain den he keep gettin suked by da water den he come out da pipe n he get up n luk around n he n da middle of nowhere den he see sumthin comin toward him he lyke omg wat dat den it com close n he hella horrifiy cuz it a man w/ nipples 4 legs den da dude say dat ur da chosen 1 2 save us frum da niptrix n den da dude is lyke wat da niptrix n da dude is lyke dat where all da nipple ppl r n den he lyke ok let go den da dude fly away w/ his nipples as wing w/ da writer on da dude bak den dey land in da nipple hq den da dude sit down n da chair n den he jack in2 da niptrix n den he meet w/ agent areola n den da writer say ur goin down areola den dey fite n den areola whoop dis dude azz den he lyke omg how do i win den his father appear as a hologram n den he lyke omg dad is dat u den he say do dat thing u saw i did 2 ur mom wen u walk in on us n da bedroom den da writer get up den twist areola nipple den areola omg nooooo dat my weakness den da writer kick da dude in da mouf n den he die den areola die n den he come bak 2 da land of nipple n den he lyke omg i save yall n den da nippel ppl lyke omg thnx u get 24/7 acces 2 female nipple den dey send him bak home n den he luk @ da clock n he only got an hour 2 write da story so he jump on da comp n den write da story den turn it in den he hella stress n den he go bak 2 nipple wurld 2 get sum more nipple 2 destress himself n not care about wat happen next n den he luk @ da horizon n den da credit roll tbh

Another magnificent story, GMagnum; I think you should have written the book instead of him.

omg hella gud bronie tbh


aye ma boi gmag kno his shyt tbh

aye dam rite homie tbh

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TIM has a home now, on an old mining base. So more top secret space station for him.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 25 janvier 2012 - 04:57 .


#890
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Oh, goody. MOAR ERRORS in the Google books preview:

"During Faster Than Light travel it was impossible to see anything...."

and:

"But after entering normal space..."

Oh, and BTW, Kai Leng travels from Illium to the Citadel without the passenger liner using a mass relay.

"The Citadel resembled a piece of fantastic jewelry surrounded by luminous particles that were actually stars."

NO GOD DAMN IT. STOP IT.

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And more:

Kai Leng just waltzes right onto the Presidium, despite not having had plastic surgery and being wanted for, well, all sorts of stuff.

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I feel like I'm watching Didy's descent into madness. In real time!

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Damn, 36 pages of hate.... wish I never created this thread. ><

But carry on I guess?

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Kill this book with fire, it might be the only hope.

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didymos1120 wrote...

And more:

Kai Leng just waltzes right onto the Presidium, despite not having had plastic surgery and being wanted for, well, all sorts of stuff.


Just close your eyes.

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Kill this book with fire, it might be the only hope.


Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. Maybe you can nuke it with a mass effect field.

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Eski.Moe wrote...

I feel like I'm watching Didy's descent into madness. In real time!


I'M FINE YOU SHUTUP!  :crying:

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Link to the Google Books preview?

Maybe there'll be something salvageable in that.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

And more:

Kai Leng just waltzes right onto the Presidium, despite not having had plastic surgery and being wanted for, well, all sorts of stuff.


Just close your eyes.


Well a dead Shepard did walk right into the Citadel with little questions asked.... and Legion was allowed to waltz right in but I guess that was just a joke on Bioware's part?

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didymos1120 wrote...

Eski.Moe wrote...

I feel like I'm watching Didy's descent into madness. In real time!


I'M FINE YOU SHUTUP!  :crying:

The citadel is shaped like a star. :innocent: