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[Wulfram]

didymos1120 wrote...

The point is that the Alliance doesn't operate out there and the name is thrown out as if there's nothing unusual about it. It's just "Oh, they live on Anhur, better call 'em."

Well, clearly what the story needed was another little expository aside.

[ArkkAngel007]

I'm not going to lie, I lost it at "Gentle Beings". And while I understand that they have to be open to trade outside of the Alliance with groups in the Terminus and such, but isn't it odd that Batarians would allow a human on their homeworld of all places?

[CaptainZaysh]

Wulfram wrote...

Well, clearly what the story needed was another little expository aside.

:-D

[1136342t54_]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

In what way is the story interesting to you, 1136342t54?

50 pages in, I have no idea who the hero is. Is it Anderson? If so, what's he trying to do? Convince the Council about the Reapers? Rescue the boy from the cult? Why hasn't the author used his precious second chapter to convince us to like and support him in his mission, rather than on having him walk to a meeting, then have a meeting?

Is it Gillian? If so, why is our introduction to her that boring combat set piece where she killed a bunch of mooks? If her grief at her father's passing is what motivates her why was her reaction to the news so trite and cliched? She's autistic, right? Why is her reaction to grief utterly neurotypical?

Weird how the main thing you have a problem with is who is the hero. Its been like that in the novels. The story is told from multiple view points in which they eventually come together. Not sure if Gillian was autistic but I remember the drugs Cerberus was giving her was making her mental condition worse or causing it.

[Bad King]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Wait, isn't it implied in the SB dossier that Anderson does have a son? The book claims that he has no children of his own... :/

He doesn't have a son. That kid is from his ex-wife's husband.

I assumed he was Anderson's son seeing as he cared so much about Anderson. After re-reading it, it seems pretty ambiguous as to who the boy is, so Dietz gets away with this one.

[didymos1120]

Wulfram wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

The point is that the Alliance doesn't operate out there and the name is thrown out as if there's nothing unusual about it. It's just "Oh, they live on Anhur, better call 'em."

Well, clearly what the story needed was another little expository aside.

Point missed again.  What the story needed was someone who doesn't continually make these mistakes, or at least, someone who could have corrected them after the fact.

Modifié par didymos1120, 24 janvier 2012 - 12:59 .

[TMA LIVE]

I know they got divorced, and the Lawyer made it clear they didn't have kids in the first book.

Like I said. If they did have a kid, she never told Anderson.

[Wulfram]

didymos1120 wrote...

Point missed again.  What the story needed was someone who doesn't continually make these mistakes.

Sorry, I was just making a joke

[didymos1120]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm surprised the Cerberus guy would know what Gillian looks like since he hasn't seen her in 6 years. Even then I doubt he ever went to that Biotic School. Or been given a reason to see her picture. Or visited Grayson's house when she was a baby.

He recognized the name, not Gillian herself.

[TMA LIVE]

Also, why is McCann so willing to talk about how he was a Cerberus agent? You'd think that would be something to keep your mouth shut about?

[C9316]

I hope it's an error but I swear the Cerberus guy openly claimed he was in cerberus, yet nobody wanted to immediately throw him out the airlock. Oh and I love the part with Kai Leng not liking batarians "because they were aliens and therefore a threat to humanity".

[Yuoaman]

This guy really needed an editor or six.

[Anacronian Stryx]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, why is McCann so willing to talk about how he was a Cerberus agent? You'd think that would be something to keep your mouth shut about?

I wondered the same when i read it also that he casually explains how he walked up and shoot two Turians in the head.

[CaptainZaysh]

1136342t54 wrote...

Weird how the main thing you have a problem with is who is the hero. Its been like that in the novels. The story is told from multiple view points in which they eventually come together. 

A story is a tale of conflict between a character the audience likes and is emotionally involved with (the hero or protagonist) and the forces that prevent the hero reaching his goal (the antagonists).  The point of a story is that the hero struggles against great odds and develops as a person in order to achieve his goal.

This story has no hero.  We have no reason to root for (or even especially like) any of the characters.  It's a bad story.

[TMA LIVE]

didymos1120 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm surprised the Cerberus guy would know what Gillian looks like since he hasn't seen her in 6 years. Even then I doubt he ever went to that Biotic School. Or been given a reason to see her picture. Or visited Grayson's house when she was a baby.

He recognized the name, not Gillian herself.

True. Maybe I misread it.

So why does he know her name?

[InHarmsWay]

C9316 wrote...

I hope it's an error but I swear the Cerberus guy openly claimed he was in cerberus, yet nobody wanted to immediately throw him out the airlock. Oh and I love the part with Kai Leng not liking batarians "because they were aliens and therefore a threat to humanity".

Yeah that Cerberus part really made me go "WTF?"

Also Kai's attitude apparently is, "I hate aliens because they're different. And different things scare me."

[Yuoaman]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Weird how the main thing you have a problem with is who is the hero. Its been like that in the novels. The story is told from multiple view points in which they eventually come together. 

A story is a tale of conflict between a character the audience likes and is emotionally involved with (the hero or protagonist) and the forces that prevent the hero reaching his goal (the antagonists).  The point of a story is that the hero struggles against great odds and develops as a person in order to achieve his goal.

This story has no hero.  We have no reason to root for (or even especially like) any of the characters.  It's a bad story.

Not all good stories have a hero - a lot of them don't have a protagonist in any recognizable form.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Of lesser note, we were just introduced to the first asari whose name didn't end in -a.

HOW DARE HE ABUSE THE LORE THAT WAY.

[Yuoaman]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Of lesser note, we were just introduced to the first asari whose name didn't end in -a.

HOW DARE HE ABUSE THE LORE THAT WAY.

TIME TO KNOCK DOWN THE DOOR OF WHOEVER LET THAT SLIP BY.

[1136342t54_]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, why is McCann so willing to talk about how he was a Cerberus agent? You'd think that would be something to keep your mouth shut about?

I was wondering that myself. I was also wondering why Mitra kind of ignored that also.

[CaptainZaysh]

Yuoaman wrote...

This guy really needed an editor or six.

Editing couldn't fix it.  None of it works; it has a confused storyline; there are no clear heroes; it does not have a main character; there are zero stakes.

This is seriously the most dreadful thing I've ever read in print.  And I've read The Da Vinci Code, for ****'s sake.

[Seboist]

LOL, they couldn't come up with a better reason for Kai Leng to not like the Batarians? It's not like there's a shortage of reasons to be wary of them....

[CaptainZaysh]

Yuoaman wrote...

Not all good stories have a hero - a lot of them don't have a protagonist in any recognizable form.

Bulls**t.  Name one.