Deausx wrote...
So how exactly do you stay alive when fighting normal packs of mobs as a rogue when they get into melee range? I've been using Leliana as a bard/duelist 2 dagger rogue in my party for my first play through and I'm definitely going to play through a second time doing the single character challenge. From what I understand its possible with a double dagger rogue, archer rogue and an arcane warrior. Now I can easily see how its possible with an AW, I tested what it would look like on the spirit healer chick since I hadnt used her once. So i leveled her up, gave enough magic to equip massive plate, AW spec and checked out her stats. Level 18 w/ 56 armor from nothing special armor (20 more than my current tank btw, amazing) and 75% resists across the board (which I assume is max) and 100+ mental/phys resistance. Hard to imagine her taking much damage that couldnt easily be countered by regen.
Well, earlier on it's a lot harder to stay alive in melee as an archer, but when you start to get better equipment and get your dex to 30, things become easier. You spend a lot of time re-stealthing and getting out to attack at range again, using Below the Belt for quick kills and re-stealthing for crits in melee. When you get enough money to buy the first tier 7 light armor (pretty early on, just need access to orzimmar and 50ish gold) you will be a bit better off, but it's mostly about smart use of tactics and terrain to maximize the time that you are outside of melee and to minimize the amount of enemies that you have to deal with once you are in melee. At level 22, I can deal with 4-5 people in melee no problem, more that that I stealth away, pick off 1-2 at range and then deal with it.
The rogue in my party dies constantly however. She's probably got more deaths than morgan+allister+me combined. Granted the PC is pretty horrid but still, she gets beat down pretty easy. With no tank I can only imagine it easier. Hell, when fighting revanents from backstab position she bites it just from its AOE attacks with morigan as a dedicated healer. How do rogues stay alive from physical attacks doing the single char challenge?
One thing to take into consideration is the big survivability items (Lifegiver ring, Spellward amulet, etc.) can be given to your main character. Those items go a long way towards making sure you don't die so easily, but really, it's all about manipulating the field with stealth and range. With pinning shot and scattershot, you can tangle a good amount of people up at range and give you time to dish out some long range damage before you ever actually have to engage in melee.
And by single char challenge, do you mean the proving grounds? Well, an arrow of slaying pretty much ends those fights, but against a single enemy, pinning shot and stealth pretty much mean you'll never get hit.
Shes a cunning build rogue, btw. Base str, con, 30 dex and 60+ cunning or so.
I'm debating which of the 2 I'm going to play... I kind of dig mages more, and the idea of walking into a room, aggroing the whole thing onto me, dropping Blood Wound+Inferno seems pretty cool. But then again, from what I've heard AWs are limited to auto attacks mostly? So might not go that way and tbh, doesnt sound very hard or much strategy involved. That'd be mostly an enjoyment/badass mage type. Dagger rogue sounds like more fun, if I could understand how you are supposed to build a rogue so that it lives more than 5 seconds with an ogre looking at it. 
AWs are limited to auto attacks _mostly_, because a huge chunk of their mana is spent on sustainables to give them their legendary survivability. You can still drop spells with the leftover mana/blood magic, but you won't be casting anywhere near as often as a "regular" mage.
Solo DW rogue I'd imagine is a good deal harder to do, unless you use a bow to pick who you engage. Un-stealthing into a group of 10 enemies is not going to be healthy for you, but you can quickly dispatch a single enemy with backstabs from stun/coup de grace. If I were to solo a DW rogue, I would certainly not use light armor though, as you need heavier armor rating to survive in melee for extended periods of time.
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