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[Stanley Woo]

"Loyal fans" are getting what they've always gotten: a great effort by BioWare to make an awesome game experience for you, regular, direct communication with developers in the BioWare Social Network, newsletters, social media updates, notice of contests, promos, and other events, and generally, the knowledge that you are part of an awesome online community that we love!

You are also getting the same promos and exclusives that all users old and new will get. We are offering such content to new users in the hopes that they will like it and become new "loyal fans," and we are offering it to old users who already know what we're all about. We hope that the old users will be great ambassadors for BioWare and the MAss Effect franchise here in the BioWare Social Network, by being examples of mature, fun, revered community members and forumites. We hope you will help us out by answering newbies' questions, helping to guide them to appropriate discussion threads, and making them feel welcome just as others made you feel welcome when you were a newbie.

In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

[izmirtheastarach]

Stanley Woo wrote...

"Loyal fans" are getting what they've always gotten: a great effort by BioWare to make an awesome game experience for you, regular, direct communication with developers in the BioWare Social Network, newsletters, social media updates, notice of contests, promos, and other events, and generally, the knowledge that you are part of an awesome online community that we love!

You are also getting the same promos and exclusives that all users old and new will get. We are offering such content to new users in the hopes that they will like it and become new "loyal fans," and we are offering it to old users who already know what we're all about. We hope that the old users will be great ambassadors for BioWare and the MAss Effect franchise here in the BioWare Social Network, by being examples of mature, fun, revered community members and forumites. We hope you will help us out by answering newbies' questions, helping to guide them to appropriate discussion threads, and making them feel welcome just as others made you feel welcome when you were a newbie.

In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

I accept your offer sir. Now can we all just play video games or something?

[fivefingaslap18]

Stanley Woo wrote...

"Loyal fans" are getting what they've always gotten: a great effort by BioWare to make an awesome game experience for you, regular, direct communication with developers in the BioWare Social Network, newsletters, social media updates, notice of contests, promos, and other events, and generally, the knowledge that you are part of an awesome online community that we love!

You are also getting the same promos and exclusives that all users old and new will get. We are offering such content to new users in the hopes that they will like it and become new "loyal fans," and we are offering it to old users who already know what we're all about. We hope that the old users will be great ambassadors for BioWare and the MAss Effect franchise here in the BioWare Social Network, by being examples of mature, fun, revered community members and forumites. We hope you will help us out by answering newbies' questions, helping to guide them to appropriate discussion threads, and making them feel welcome just as others made you feel welcome when you were a newbie.

In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

I am going to sound elitist right now but your quality has declined since you were acquired by EA and don't say that Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 was a shining example of BioWare's excellence as the former was close to being complete once EA bought your company and does not show it's change on the company like Dragon Age 2 does. Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

In short, Mass Effect was supposed to be an experience that rewards players for going the extra mile by playing all the games to it's final conclusion (unfortunately for PS3 users they do not get this experience). Currently there have been a few extra rewards for 360 users, but that does not mean in any form of the word that 360, PC, or MAC users will get any special rewards for sticking through the entire experience which is a travesty. I am not saying that unique experiences based off of our differing save files is not what you promised. I believe it is but I feel that we, as a community, are not being recognized in that regard. This is why people bring it up and this is why I am replying to you Mr. Woo. It would be greatly appreciated if you could alleviate our fears.

[Graunt]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

You're pretty much in the minority on this one.  While it might not be considered "the best" game of 2010 by some, it's almost universally hailed as one of the best.  In fact, the ME series very well may be the most important series of this console generation.

I also somewhat agree with you about the EA influence on DA2, but DA2 is also grossly underrated and panned just because it's not a carbon copy of DA:O (a terribly overrated and dated game for anyone who had been playing Bioware/Obsidian/Interplay games since 98).

Modifié par Graunt, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:23 .

[JeffZero]

Mass Effect 2 was terrific. It even had a plot -- a simple statement, yes, but as I'm aware one of some contention on BSN.

[AlanC9]

Graunt wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

You're pretty much in the minority on this one.  While it might not be considered "the best" game of 2010 by some, it's almost universally hailed as one of the best.

Best game of 2010 depends a lot on what else was released in 2010. Off hand, I can't recall a serious competitor to ME2 for best game of that year, but I didn't think it was such a great year.

IF ME2 wasn't the best game of 2010, what was?

[Zanallen]

AlanC9 wrote...

Best game of 2010 depends a lot on what else was released in 2010. Off hand, I can't recall a serious competitor to ME2 for best game of that year, but I didn't think it was such a great year.

IF ME2 wasn't the best game of 2010, what was?

Though ME 2 is also Bioware's highest rated game.

[CroGamer002]

Stanley Woo wrote...

"Loyal fans" are getting what they've always gotten: a great effort by BioWare to make an awesome game experience for you, regular, direct communication with developers in the BioWare Social Network, newsletters, social media updates, notice of contests, promos, and other events, and generally, the knowledge that you are part of an awesome online community that we love!

You are also getting the same promos and exclusives that all users old and new will get. We are offering such content to new users in the hopes that they will like it and become new "loyal fans," and we are offering it to old users who already know what we're all about. We hope that the old users will be great ambassadors for BioWare and the MAss Effect franchise here in the BioWare Social Network, by being examples of mature, fun, revered community members and forumites. We hope you will help us out by answering newbies' questions, helping to guide them to appropriate discussion threads, and making them feel welcome just as others made you feel welcome when you were a newbie.

In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

Yeah thi...

We hope that the old users will be great ambassadors for BioWare and the MAss Effect franchise here in the BioWare Social Network, by being examples of mature, fun, revered community members and forumites. We hope you will help us out by answering newbies' questions, helping to guide them to appropriate discussion threads, and making them feel welcome just as others made you feel welcome when you were a newbie.

LOL!

How naive from you.

[G3rman]

Red Dead Redemption according to Gamespot, although Starcraft II would beg to differ with its large fanbase.

ME2 was still very popular as always, but I don't believe it received the GOTY.

[HTTP 404]

I'm not exactly mature at times, but thanks I think. 

Also, I don't think old fans should be treated any different than new fans. This isnt a caste system.

Modifié par HTTP 404, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:27 .

[Graunt]

AlanC9 wrote...

Graunt wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

You're pretty much in the minority on this one.  While it might not be considered "the best" game of 2010 by some, it's almost universally hailed as one of the best.

Best game of 2010 depends a lot on what else was released in 2010. Off hand, I can't recall a serious competitor to ME2 for best game of that year, but I didn't think it was such a great year.

IF ME2 wasn't the best game of 2010, what was?

Well, if you want to go off of "most anticipated" games of 2010, then probably:

1. God of War 3
2. Bayonetta
3. Halo Reach
4. Super Mario Galaxy 2
5. Metroid: Other M
6. Alan Wake
7. Bioshock 2
8. Splinter Cell: Conviction
9. Lost Planet 2
10. Final Fantasy XIII
11. Red Dead Redemption
12. Heavy Rain
13. Starcraft 2
14. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
15. Mass Effect 2
16. Fallout: New Vegas

I'd hardly call 2010 a dry year, whether or not any of them lived up to expectations.

G3rman wrote...

Red Dead Redemption according to Gamespot, although Starcraft II would beg to differ with its large fanbase.

ME2 was still very popular as always, but I don't believe it received the GOTY.

Yeah, it actually did get a few GOTY.  A quick google search will show as much.  It also won "RPG of the year" even by those that did not give it game of the year.  It was also voted up as one the top games by official polls.

Modifié par Graunt, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:39 .

[HTTP 404]

red dead was awesome ^

[AlanC9]

G3rman wrote...

Red Dead Redemption according to Gamespot, although Starcraft II would beg to differ with its large fanbase.

ME2 was still very popular as always, but I don't believe it received the GOTY.

I forgot all about RDR -- probably because I don't have a console. I doubt I would have been a huge fan even if I had played it, since I'm always kind of meh about open-world games. But a worthy game even if it isn't for me, from all I've heard.

I'm not sure it really makes sense to talk about a GOTY. There are so many different sources giving out that award.

@ Graunt: thanks for the list. I can see why I didn't find it an impressive year myself, and why others might have.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:33 .

[G3rman]

I know, and I hate to quote Gamespot of all as I hoped to find the VGA awards but I believe Red Dead also got awarded there as well. I never liked it much myself either and in the end, the GOTY comes down to individuals and their preferences. My game of the year was Halo Reach after all.

[fivefingaslap18]

Graunt wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

You're pretty much in the minority on this one.  While it might not be considered "the best" game of 2010 by some, it's almost universally hailed as one of the best.

I also somewhat agree with you about the EA influence on DA2, but DA2 is also grossly underrated and panned just because it's not a carbon copy of DA:O (a terribly overrated and dated game for anyone who had been playing Bioware/Obsidian/Interplay games since 98).

You also have to remember that ME2 is closer to 3rd person shooters than RPGs. While ME2 got a 9.5 from ign, ME1 got a score closer to 7.5. Not only that, but if you compare the storyline of both games ME1 wins by a landslide. The characters are better developed and you get a richer experience (maybe not in the combat mechanics) but the games feel very different. Try it out again. You have to think how you use your abilities and when you use them in ME1 as opposed to ME2. Overall, ME2 is more about how quickly can I get through this whereas ME1 was about where do I take this guy from and what's my best chance. ME2 tried that in Tali's mission but in all honesty, it was really easy. Even the difficulty in ME1 was harder than ME2. All in all, ME2 was a step in the right direction combat wise, but fell hard everywhere else.

You have to understand that DA2 is actually a really bad game when you compare it with it's predecessor or any other game. Consider the following, it is a game that got an 8.5 score by multiple major critic websites before it was released. It is well known how ratings are bought as opposed to genuine opinion in the media today (including other media besides video games). Majority of reviews by owners gave it horrible scores which is why it's score from the players is so low and why the backlash is so bad that BioWare employees insult their own customers over this garbage dump of a game. In fact, the sales for the game are so bad that they don't even know if they can still successfully produce DLC for it after MOTA failed to work for most of the fanbase.

Was DA:O overrated? It was overrated slightly, but while it is dated it still beats many of it's competitors. I personally thought it was a very great game and came to it later than it's release date. When I got it though I couldn't put it down. This is why you have many people who want to play it over multiple times and argue over which origin is the best of them all. I'd say it was certainly better than DA2 by every means.

Sorry, my favorite game was Heavy Rain. I just looked over the list there and that has to be my favorite game of the year without question. I like innovation, story, and nuance. Heavy Rain fits the bill for me. BioWare was exactly like that to me and I was enamored by the Wii when it was first introduced and thought it could potentially change gaming. Looks like I was right for the latter, unfortunately. The former I'll have to wait and see on.

Modifié par fivefingaslap18, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:38 .

[HTTP 404]

AlanC9 wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Red Dead Redemption according to Gamespot, although Starcraft II would beg to differ with its large fanbase.

ME2 was still very popular as always, but I don't believe it received the GOTY.

I forgot all about RDR -- probably because I don't have a console. I doubt I would have been a huge fan even if I had played it, since I'm always kind of meh about open-world games. But a worthy game even if it isn't for me, from all I've heard.

I'm not sure it really makes sense to talk about a GOTY. There are so many different sources giving out that award.

@ Graunt: thanks for the list. I can see why I didn't find it an impressive year myself, and why others might have.

sorry little off topic, it wasnt so much the gameplay or the the type of game that made rdr good, it was the story.  GoTY awards are kinda hokey anyways, there are way too many different types of games out there.  RPG of the year, shooter of the year, etc. mean more to me.

[implodinggoat]

Stanley Woo wrote...

In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

Good answer Stanley.

I've bought the Collector's Edition of all three Mass Effects now and I don't think it would be fair to give me any in game content that people who are new to the series don't get.    They are paying the same price for the same product as I am.

[G3rman]

[quote]Arcian wrote...

[quote]izmirtheastarach wrote...

You know, I'm starting to come around on this. I paid for Mass Effect 1. I paid for Mass Effect 2. Without me, those games would have failed.[/quote]
If you truly believe this, then [I call shenanigans on you, good sir!]

[/quote]

I think he was being sarcastic in mocking the OP.


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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:46 .

[AlanC9]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

You also have to remember that ME2 is closer to 3rd person shooters than RPGs. While ME2 got a 9.5 from ign, ME1 got a score closer to 7.5.

So ME1's worse score means it's.... better? Where are you going with that?

Not only that, but if you compare the storyline of both games ME1 wins by a landslide. The characters are better developed and you get a richer experience (maybe not in the combat mechanics) but the games feel very different.

I liked ME2's "feel" better. At the risk of opening up the whole "80s sci-fi" thing again, when I think 80s sci-fi I think of Blade Runner before Star Trek: TMP.

And I don't see any superiority for ME1's plot. It's just Bioware Standard Plot #1 again.

Try it out again. You have to think how you use your abilities and when you use them in ME1 as opposed to ME2. Overall, ME2 is more about how quickly can I get through this whereas ME1 was about where do I take this guy from and what's my best chance. ME2 tried that in Tali's mission but in all honesty, it was really easy. Even the difficulty in ME1 was harder than ME2. All in all, ME2 was a step in the right direction combat wise, but fell hard everywhere else.

I have tried it out again, and I disagree with everything you say here. I'm doing my first Engineer playthrough right now. A little way into ME2, and not only is ME2's combat better, it's harder. Not that either game is actually hard, but ME1 gets really brain-dead in the late game.

[ForteSJGR]

Stanley Woo wrote...
In short, longtime fans get our respect and thanks for sticking with us, and the expectation that they will stay with us for years to come.

The Woo has spoken......
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I trust in BioWare to create a magnificant creation for fans involved in all stage sof the Game Universe.

[Uezurii]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

Graunt wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 is not the best game as many people would like to believe it was of 2010 as it was a decent game. There were parts of it that made it a good game while other areas were reduced but not for quality reasons.

You're pretty much in the minority on this one.  While it might not be considered "the best" game of 2010 by some, it's almost universally hailed as one of the best.

I also somewhat agree with you about the EA influence on DA2, but DA2 is also grossly underrated and panned just because it's not a carbon copy of DA:O (a terribly overrated and dated game for anyone who had been playing Bioware/Obsidian/Interplay games since 98).

You also have to remember that ME2 is closer to 3rd person shooters than RPGs. While ME2 got a 9.5 from ign, ME1 got a score closer to 7.5. Not only that, but if you compare the storyline of both games ME1 wins by a landslide. The characters are better developed and you get a richer experience (maybe not in the combat mechanics) but the games feel very different. Try it out again. You have to think how you use your abilities and when you use them in ME1 as opposed to ME2. Overall, ME2 is more about how quickly can I get through this whereas ME1 was about where do I take this guy from and what's my best chance. ME2 tried that in Tali's mission but in all honesty, it was really easy. Even the difficulty in ME1 was harder than ME2. All in all, ME2 was a step in the right direction combat wise, but fell hard everywhere else.

You have to understand that DA2 is actually a really bad game when you compare it with it's predecessor or any other game. Consider the following, it is a game that got an 8.5 score by multiple major critic websites before it was released. It is well known how ratings are bought as opposed to genuine opinion in the media today (including other media besides video games). Majority of reviews by owners gave it horrible scores which is why it's score from the players is so low and why the backlash is so bad that BioWare employees insult their own customers over this garbage dump of a game. In fact, the sales for the game are so bad that they don't even know if they can still successfully produce DLC for it after MOTA failed to work for most of the fanbase.

Was DA:O overrated? It was overrated slightly, but while it is dated it still beats many of it's competitors. I personally thought it was a very great game and came to it later than it's release date. When I got it though I couldn't put it down. This is why you have many people who want to play it over multiple times and argue over which origin is the best of them all. I'd say it was certainly better than DA2 by every means.

Sorry, my favorite game was Heavy Rain. I just looked over the list there and that has to be my favorite game of the year without question. I like innovation, story, and nuance. Heavy Rain fits the bill for me. BioWare was exactly like that to me and I was enamored by the Wii when it was first introduced and thought it could potentially change gaming. Looks like I was right for the latter, unfortunately. The former I'll have to wait and see on.

All your going on about is your own opinion, You find me1 better than 2, you find da2 a bad game, you find heavy rain game of the year. All of them your opinion and not facts.

And on the DA2 thing. I would like to look at it as a spin off, and wish Bioware actually did not make it a numbered game. Just ...Dragon Age Kirkwall, or whatever.

[Graunt]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

You also have to remember that ME2 is closer to 3rd person shooters than RPGs.

From the beginning, Bioware has always called the ME series a shooter/RPG hybrid.  

While ME2 got a 9.5 from ign, ME1 got a score closer to 7.5. Not only that, but if you compare the storyline of both games ME1 wins by a landslide.

The urgency and epic feeling of the story, as well as the main antagonist win by a landslide yes.

The characters are better developed and you get a richer experience (maybe not in the combat mechanics) but the games feel very different. Try it out again.

No, not even close.  The character development for squadmates was vastly superior in the second game.  In fact, that's about all the second game's plot was.  As for "trying it out again", not even three weeks ago I finished replaying two characters from 1-60 before going back for some ME2 completions for saves.  ME2 is pretty much better in every way over the original aside from the story.

You have to think how you use your abilities and when you use them in ME1 as opposed to ME2.

No you don't.  On Insanity you can simply pop Immunity as soon as it refreshes (which evenutally means it's up 100% of the time) and Marksman.  It's that basic.  Using biotics is no more "complex" either.

Overall, ME2 is more about how quickly can I get through this whereas ME1 was about where do I take this guy from and what's my best chance. ME2 tried that in Tali's mission but in all honesty, it was really easy. Even the difficulty in ME1 was harder than ME2. All in all, ME2 was a step in the right direction combat wise, but fell hard everywhere else.

Completely disagree.  I typically do not find any enjoyment in FPS/TPS type games, but the ME series has enough variety going for it that it doesn't bore me to tears.  Insanity in ME1 was also much easier than ME2.  The difference is pretty staggering.  The actual combat gameplay from ME was only "good" when it was the only game in the series.   The combat in ME2 is better in every possible way other than the way they mostly crippled biotics.  It was also nice that there were actual classs this time around that were seperated by more than just name.

You have to understand that DA2 is actually a really bad game when you compare it with it's predecessor or any other game.

Yeah.  I can't actually judge it for it's own merits or anything.  I need to compare it to the most overrated RPG next to Oblivion/Skyrim and then whine about how everything about it is wrong.  Funny thing is, video games are usually about gameplay, and despite the weak chapter 3, majorly recycled areas and "ANOTHER WAVE" shenannigans, DA2 was actually fun to play compared to the archaic DA:O system that I'd already been playing for the last decade.  The best thing about DA:O to me was Alistair and Morrigan.  That's about it.  The story was pretty much recycled.

Modifié par Graunt, 24 janvier 2012 - 07:54 .

[fivefingaslap18]

AlanC9 wrote...

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

You also have to remember that ME2 is closer to 3rd person shooters than RPGs. While ME2 got a 9.5 from ign, ME1 got a score closer to 7.5.

So ME1's worse score means it's.... better? Where are you going with that?

Never said that. You seem to be the one who's saying that here. I said that the scores are different, but am not making my own opinion. Choose your quotes carefully. There is a part where I said that scores can be misleading.

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Not only that, but if you compare the storyline of both games ME1 wins by a landslide. The characters are better developed and you get a richer experience (maybe not in the combat mechanics) but the games feel very different.

AlanC9 wrote...
I liked ME2's "feel" better. At the risk of opening up the whole "80s sci-fi" thing again, when I think 80s sci-fi I think of Blade Runner before Star Trek: TMP.

And I don't see any superiority for ME1's plot. It's just Bioware Standard Plot #1 again.

The man has eyes but does not use them.

fivefingaslap18 wrote...
Try it out again. You have to think how you use your abilities and when you use them in ME1 as opposed to ME2. Overall, ME2 is more about how quickly can I get through this whereas ME1 was about where do I take this guy from and what's my best chance. ME2 tried that in Tali's mission but in all honesty, it was really easy. Even the difficulty in ME1 was harder than ME2. All in all, ME2 was a step in the right direction combat wise, but fell hard everywhere else.

AlanC9 wrote...
I have tried it out again, and I disagree with everything you say here. I'm doing my first Engineer playthrough right now. A little way into ME2, and not only is ME2's combat better, it's harder. Not that either game is actually hard, but ME1 gets really brain-dead in the late game.

I never said ME2's combat was worse. Quite the contrary. Maybe you should read someone's sentiments before you try to displace them. Why don't you read what you quoted from me over again. You sir are either dumb, a troll, or both.

[izmirtheastarach]

Uezurii wrote...

All your going on about is your own opinion, You find me1 better than 2, you find da2 a bad game, you find heavy rain game of the year. All of them your opinion and not facts.

And on the DA2 thing. I would like to look at it as a spin off, and wish Bioware actually did not make it a numbered game. Just ...Dragon Age Kirkwall, or whatever.

It's not an opinion. Apparently we "have to understand" these things. They are not optional.

I also understand that Heavy Rain has one of the worst, most convoluted stories I've ever seen, with tremendously bad voice acting to sell it. But I guess I have to understand that it was the best game of 2010.