Beware (not Bioware!), wall comes again.Terror_K wrote...
Dragon Age 2 alone isn't a bad enough reason to turn your back on a developer, especially if they've largely made you happy for a good decade and a half prior to that.
Why is that? One particular publisher's (not developer, though) actions made me abandon one particular title I liked before. Well, I still like old games from those series, but ignore new ones and have no wish to pay for them. I don't even sure I would play them if someone gift them to me. Mind you, it's not because of my "high value morality principles", it's just because games are too much crappy for my taste.
Terror_K wrote...
The attitudes, mentality and even derogatory nature of some od the key devs behind the game both prior and following its launch, on top of the whole direction the series took and the reasons behind it, however are. Everybody is capable of making a bad game and nobody bats a thousand. But sabotaging and purposefully making a conscious decision to practically give your original fans the middle finger without apology is a different matter entirely. That creates a far bigger stain than a single poor title does.
Releasing "mediocre" at best product - is middle finger enough. Because I fail to see target auditory there. Of course, it's just me.
Can't say about "communicating" part - I'm not that sociable and return to more or less active surfing just recently. Maybe it's hard to believe, but most part of my surfing happens on other forums, so I probably missed that part.
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Not to mention cutting some people out entirely with things like exclusive pre-order bonuses and the like. My personal favourite being from New Zealand is that the pre-order item that everybody else gets no matter where they get the game from is reduced to having to buy it from one store in a faux-Collector's edition that's nowhere near as good as the actual CE. Of course it wouldn't be so much an issue if BioWare did something akin to CD Projekt, Obsidian/Bethesda and Eidos Montreal and would offer the previously unattainable DLC's for sale afterwards, but we've no indication of this.
Not to mention that while most "Loyal Fans" would want them would have likely have bought their first series of Mass Effect figurines already, there's no indication that they'll be able to get hold of the DLC coming out for the re-releases beyond having to fork out for another set of them.
Replace Bioware with bethesda and ME with FNV and you got our situation here.
Word "bethesda" alone is more than enough to raise my blood pressure to dangerous (for gnats - they exploding
) levels. After what they've done here with us via New Vegas (I couldn't care less for the rest of their "products"), they must marry on us, if they honest folk. But it turns out they don't, so...
We, I mean Fallout fans, can do nothing here. bethesda owns title now and we must buy their games, if we want to experience them. Well, at least if Obsidian is the developer, not bethesda (I had enough "oblivion with guns" for my life). Especially since blood magic is forbidden
- there are no other options (other than total ignorance, which is not an option for obvious reasons
). Why being lawful is so complicated?
Other than that - I can't disagree with you. You would think that in modern "global" world separating us on regional principles will be gone. Yes, I'd lie if I say that I don't like differences in pricing levels. Of course as long as I have access to goodies, even for additional fee. I wouldn't mind to pay more if there are differences in "packages", because if I like game, I will gladly pay higher price. Just let me do that, with minimum PITA and without those low-levels quests from early 90's: bake pie, bring pie to smith, he'll make you hatchet, give hatchet to carpenter, he will make you table, bring table to ferryman, who will ferry you on opposing bank, where you can gather berries.
Graunt wrote...
The funny thing too is that if DA2 had been released by anyone other than Bethesda, Blizzard or Bioware it would not have any anywhere near as much backlash. I wouldn't be suprised at all if we have a bunch of closet cases who actually did enjoy it, but would rather complain because it doesn't live up to their expectation of how a Bioware game should be.
If the developer had been Obsidan, people would be singing high praises of how fantastically written it was (regardless of what's actually there), but that we have another KOTOR2 on our hands. They would talk about the same issues they've already talked about, but in the end say it's a pretty good game just because what was actually released is something you could expect Obsidian to release more or less.
It's fine if people want to be upset by how obviously rushed it was for $$$, but everything beyond that is kind of pathetic. So Bioware finally made a game that did not meet or exceed expectations--that must mean that they are incapable of recovery and that everything that they had done right in the past (which is being used as the ammo in the first place) never existed.
I find it kinda funny, but I didn't expect nor wait for DA2. Neither DA1. I missed both releases entirely and bought both mostly "to support my favorite studio" - both games were low in my "to do" list, but it happens that in one of my recent business trips, I've been able to play both and finished DAO/DAA, but was unable to do that with DA2.
Yes, I've seen them prior purchase, at my friend's home, to be more specific. When I asked him what's the game he plays now, he told me it was DA2. When he saw my "Jokerface"
ho briefed me on title and even ran DAO to introduce me series from very beginning. When I saw first dialogue in Human Noble line, I laughed and said shouldn't he warned me about DA, I'd rather thought it was NWN2 mod. Then it was his turn for Jokerface and my turn to play Avina.
I can't say that I don't care who makes the game - I do, but I don't appraise games by their developers' names. On too many occasions this type of judgment proved itself wrong. Plus all those cases when key people moving from one studio to another.
If I support studio (i.e. certain developers there I've heard of, or met personally), I may buy their game even without any intent to play it (or with intent placed too low in "to do" list
), Alpha Protocol or KOTOR2 (ended up gifted to one SW fanboy), for example. I like how Obsidian works (not how their programmers works, though
) so I would mind to increase their lifespan, so to speak.
Returning to ME3 thread. As far as I know, humans usually worried about things they care for, that's includes critique. I can't say for whole humanity
, but that statement is correct for me. If I don't care about FIFA, NFS or Sims, for example, I don't care what's going on there (I'd gladly care a little for NHL, but it seems it's evading our platform again
). So yes, I want to see ME3 as successful game, and not only from marketing point of view. My expectations? Don't make it worse than ME2. That will be enough. Hamster is always welcomed, of course.
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