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I don't know about you but commander shepards had been through A LOT throughout the events of ME1 and ME2 whether it be the prothean beacon burning images into his brain or when he was spaced and suffocated to death. I'm wondering why the hell he isn't showing signs of battle trauma or anything like that. Please comment

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incinerator950

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Not everyone who receives PTSD is a psychopath.

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SykoWolf

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I know but you would think he would be more withdrawn

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Maybe he will in ME3.

Since everyone is so scared about spoilers - we haven't seen much in the way of Shep talking to people. However they have said there is more opportunity to express your Shep - so who knows?

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Homey C-Dawg

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They said they were gonna make him show more emotion this time. Probably have some scenes like LOTSB where he gets to vent a bit.

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Don't worry. He will.

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interesting op. i have to admit id like to see something done with shep and ptsd other than omg people who have it are nuts. heck give him some nightmare scenes wile asleep involving finding the prothean beacon on eden prime and even casualties lost in the current war

ptsd can also involve remembering multiple deaths wich will happen in me3

Modifié par Tazzmission, 24 janvier 2012 - 11:07 .


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incinerator950

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I'm more interested in those who picked Sole Survivor, or Colonist (or both). Kind of noticeable if Shepard has had several cases to have PTSD, it would manifest more clearly.

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Shepherd may be one of those rare individuals who just doesn't get PTSD. It's just a funny thing about the human brain that a group of people can see the same horrible thing and yet some get PTSD and others don't for one reason or another. That is to say though that it's highly unlikely Shepherd would be completely unaffected psychologically from his extraordinary experiences and which may be shown more in ME3 such as having survivor's guilt from the sole survivor background for instance.

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My Shepard likes killing people of all species, makes and/or models so no complaints on the job satisfaction front. Sure, leaving a buddy back on Virmire and getting spaced was annoying but as a colonist sole survivor, Shepard's seen it rougher.

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Well really, displaying these kind of emotions is possible if you roleplay him as such. In ME 1, my canon Shep stopped speaking to crew members after receiving the cipher from Shiala. I made it so that he was withdrawn. He had too many things rushing through his mind and too many responsibilities to attend to.

That said, regardless of how you rp your Sheps the game makes it clear that he is a great leader. So having a Shep that is an emotional mess would lead you to wonder about why people follow him. That's also the reason why I never play full paragon or renegade. Paragons are naive and pure renegades are thugs. Why would people follow either of them?

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First and foremost PTSD is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It is a diagnosis. A diagnosis is a classification system used by behavioral health professionals to classify and identify a spectrum of behaviors, symptoms and problems. It is used in treatment formation which also includes an intervention, follow up and appropriate discharge.

In today's society, PTSD is an expected outcome from experiencing ANY traumatic event when in reality, it is not the norm. The norm is for people who experience a traumatic event, be it man made or from nature, to experience some difficulties but adjust. MOST people reconcile what they see what what they believe about the world and are able to process the event. Some may experience some difficulty for a short amount of time. PTSD is the diagnosis given to those individuals who are showing significant problems for a longer period of time with evident symptoms which cause distress and/or lower the ability to function.

Having said that, I agree with Jorune and Nelly. This is a fictional universe. Perhaps the military developed techniques or a way to "vaccinate" soldiers to aid them in dealing with the reality of war. Versus seeing Sheapard as a soldier serving now. If you want your Shepard to have emotional and behavioral issues, RP it. That's your choice.

For a good portion of gamers who like Shepard as the larger than life hero that he is, he is fine the way he is. Personally, I want Shepard to be that hero that is untouchable. I would rather have that character who can stomp a Reaper into the ground versus reality. I deal with reality everyday, I want the fiction.

With that I am done. Yet, I have no doubt that this topic will resurface again and again. It seems people love to play armchair psychologist. Bah.

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Because he is Chuck Norris in space.

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Maybe he is a psycopath. Not a crazy-serial killer, but the "real" meaning of the word, a person who has a very hard time feeling any kind of emotion, if at all. Doesn't explain his love life though, so it's unlikely.

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Psychopathy can be interchanged with antisocial personality disorder and sociopathy. Psychopathy and sociopathy are not classifications used by behavioral health professions but are in the general vernacular to identify those who are emotionally shallow, deceptive and or manipulative. The diagnosis that overlaps the two terms is antisocial personality disorder.

The three are usually marked by criminal behavior as there is a disregard to the rights of others. Yet the number of individuals who have this personality disorder and/or traits can be functioning members of society. The diagnosis does not denote violent perpetratory behavior.

Again, assigning a common term that has a mental health connotation without fully comprehending the full spectrum of the behavior and it's ramification. As most individuals who can be, by the general population, psychopaths/sociopaths/antisocial personality disordered would have a difficult time functioning in a structured system with authoritarian rules.

Irregardless, not likely.

Modifié par Mei Mei, 24 janvier 2012 - 02:39 .


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Mei Mei wrote...

First and foremost PTSD is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It is a diagnosis. A diagnosis is a classification system used by behavioral health professionals to classify and identify a spectrum of behaviors, symptoms and problems. It is used in treatment formation which also includes an intervention, follow up and appropriate discharge.

In today's society, PTSD is an expected outcome from experiencing ANY traumatic event when in reality, it is not the norm. The norm is for people who experience a traumatic event, be it man made or from nature, to experience some difficulties but adjust. MOST people reconcile what they see what what they believe about the world and are able to process the event. Some may experience some difficulty for a short amount of time. PTSD is the diagnosis given to those individuals who are showing significant problems for a longer period of time with evident symptoms which cause distress and/or lower the ability to function.

Having said that, I agree with Jorune and Nelly. This is a fictional universe. Perhaps the military developed techniques or a way to "vaccinate" soldiers to aid them in dealing with the reality of war. Versus seeing Sheapard as a soldier serving now. If you want your Shepard to have emotional and behavioral issues, RP it. That's your choice.

For a good portion of gamers who like Shepard as the larger than life hero that he is, he is fine the way he is. Personally, I want Shepard to be that hero that is untouchable. I would rather have that character who can stomp a Reaper into the ground versus reality. I deal with reality everyday, I want the fiction.

With that I am done. Yet, I have no doubt that this topic will resurface again and again. It seems people love to play armchair psychologist. Bah.


I'm the opposite, Shepard is going to gain scars and lose some parts, but still be there.  Probably why I hated the invincible aspect of ME 1 so much.  As to the game itself, I think Shepard is fine as you said.

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incinerator950 wrote...

I'm the opposite, Shepard is going to gain scars and lose some parts, but still be there.  Probably why I hated the invincible aspect of ME 1 so much.  As to the game itself, I think Shepard is fine as you said.

Right on. More power to you. :D

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I hope ME3 answers the brilliant question that you brought up.

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Shepard will be slightly more human, but for the most part that aspect will be optional. I don't see them dealing w/ Shepard's "issues" that much, but VO director Caroline Livingstone did say that Shepard's tone will be more, "We're going to win this war ... I think."

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Don't worry. He will.


:happy:

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I've always pictured my Shepard as being a bit of a high-functioning sociopath. I hope I get to add some depth in ME3.

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My Shepard is going to kill himself and his entire squad. He's one hardcore dude.

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I'd love it if ME 3 included a subplot in which Shepard-Commander starts getting indoctrinated. Not completely, but here's a guy who's spent a great deal of time hanging around indoctrination artifacts and chatting with Reapers. I'd jump out of my pants with glee if ME 3 included a few Arkham Asylum style segments in which you must delve into Shepard-Commander's mind and fight the ghosts of indoctrination that are vying for control of his cybernetically enhanced super-brain.
Oodles of fun to be had!

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Shepard already is a mental case. Who in the right mind would have done all he has done and do what he is going to do in ME3?

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I find this highly relevant.

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I couldn’t help but notice, recently, when I turned on the news and found that some desk-jockey was once again telling me how someone killed some people. Except, it wasn’t just someone, it was an “Ex-Marine Iraq Veteran”, because that’s obviously really important to know right? If you didn’t know that, how would you protect yourself from the other ruthless war-machine kill-monsters that obviously are roaming the streets, juiced up on Rip-Its and PTSD?

Luckily, you don’t have to!

For every one **** veteran that the news tells you killed someone, there’s about a million other veterans that go about their daily lives without killing anyone or anything. We all know that the news likes to focus on the negative, but the unfortunate consequence of this labeling is that it simply goes to enforce the stereotypes that undereducated civilians may have on the subject. You don’t see the news labeling races or other peoples ex-jobs every time they commit a crime, because it doesn’t matter. Being a veteran, even a war-veteran, could have absolutely nothing to do with violent behavior. It’s very possible that this person was just a giant dick-head.


Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 24 janvier 2012 - 05:20 .