android654 wrote...
Stardusk78 wrote...
android654 wrote...
Unbannable wrote...
syllogi wrote...
Yeah, I only have known a few people into bodybuilding in my life, and they were all extremely dedicated, had diets that they followed slavishly (even when they were bulking, that was part of the diet and whether they felt like it or not, they stuck to it), and it became both a hobby and a lifestyle. Saying most men can have a physique like Vega is dismissing the combination of hard work and luck of genetics that it actually comes down to.
First off, Vega isn't a bodybuilder judging by his build. Bodybuilders, partcularly the successful ones, have extremely high levels of muscularity, often to the point that it appears UNNATURAL, because such a high degree of muscularity cannot be attained without the use of synthetic testosterone.
Vega is a muscular guy, but as I mentioned before, he is much more athletic in appearance and build. He's naturally muscular, and chooses to weight lift to enhance his natural strength.
Secondly, I never said "most men" can have a build like Vega, so get your spectacles on.
Wrong. Body builders aren't judged on Mass, but on composition and proportion. There are male bodybuilders that weigh 150lbs to 400lbs. I don't know what his definition is like but his size is not unseen among body builders. Also any pro or semi-pro body builder has to be "athletic" (meaning built for running and endurance exercise) in order to train their cardiovascular system in order to keep their metabolism regulated so they can respond properly to muscle gain and fat loss.
Also most men can achieve mass like Vega depending on their starting point. If you're thin or of average build, in time its possible to gain 60lbs of lean muscle mass in years. If you're over weight, you'd have to drop the high body fat and gain the muscle afterwords, or cycle between the two.
60lbs of muscle mass, lol. How funny. The average male can put on about 30lbs of muscle mass in the first 3-5 years if he is LUCKY, 60lbs...very, very few can do that naturally. Most men cannot achieve Vega's mass without the requisite genetics and pro bodybuilding has nothing to do with being athletic and everything to do with drugs,
Thats why I said years. The average male can gain 10-12 lbs. of lean muscle mass in 12 months with the proper carb cycling diet and exercise split. I said that. The whole point of taking up a sport and taking it up seriously is because its a part of you. If you're lifting to look pretty, or get big you probably wont stick with it for long. If you love the sport and get a genuine thrill from it, you could stick with it for decades and that's where you get people who look like Dwayne Johnson and Terry Crews, both profession football players who could not be on roids because they get drug tested on and off seasons. So the average guy that works out three days a week will never get there because he lacks the dedication not because he lacks the genetic make-up.
But someone who's dedicated, has a six day split, eats accordingly (to gain would have to start north of 2400 and build up over time for gaining) can get significant change despite their genetics (as long as there isn't any malformations in their dna) would have no problem going form 160 to 215 in 5 years and be lean.
If you think professional body builders are on roids, you're wrong. Professional body builders get drug tested a lot and roids aren't as effective as most people think. They probably take things that are seemingly odd (deer horn spray, shark cartilage) but there's a list of supplements they can not take if they wish to competet.
Well, you've just shown you literally know NOTHING about bbing or professional bbing. Why would you write so much about something you know nothing about? There is so much misinformation in there, it's incredible.
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