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[SilentNukee]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I'm actually pretty sure that they gave Dom a wife in GoW 2 so people would stop accusing him of being homosexual.

Hahaha, and putting in the females since GoW 1 and 2 were so homoerotic. the wimminz.
Also, Carmine saying something that sounds exactly like "Love that ****!" in MP 

[Genshie]

Why is Gears of War like the end all to be all when making comparisons about military or fictional warfare? Gears of War brought nothing new to the table and I am really getting annoyed with all the dumb GoW references and connections people are making and assuming when GoW DID NOT come up with any of the references they are trying to make.

[CannonO]

Genshie wrote...

Why is Gears of War like the end all to be all when making comparisons about military or fictional warfare? Gears of War brought nothing new to the table and I am really getting annoyed with all the dumb GoW references and connections people are making and assuming when GoW DID NOT come up with any of the references they are trying to make.

GoW is one of the most significant and successful shooter franchises of all time, and is especially considered one of the defining franchises of this console generation. It gets referenced because it was very successful at including both meathead characters and some of the smoothest TPS gameplay in recent memory. It didn't necessarily innovate, but it did its attempt in a uniquely popular way.

[Kradsk]

Chris Priestly wrote...

How about "Vega's character design to be a different look from the other members of the party, none of whom have the "large muscular human" look. Not having everyone look alike in ME3 is considered a good thing by most people."?

Not everything has to do with other video games. Sometimes, a character looks teh way he/she/it does because it makes sense to the character and teh story.

Don't be ridiculous Chris. We all know that every game in existence is just a copy of other popular games. And I'm sure I'm not the only one here who noticed that if you print off the pages from Mass Effect: Conviction, and fold the pages together in a certain way, and then close both of your eyes, you end up seeing an image that looks startlingly like a the GoW game cover! Now tell me that James Vega isn't a rip-off of Gears of War!

Modifié par Kradsk, 25 janvier 2012 - 05:35 .

[Genshie]

CannonLars wrote...

Genshie wrote...

Why is Gears of War like the end all to be all when making comparisons about military or fictional warfare? Gears of War brought nothing new to the table and I am really getting annoyed with all the dumb GoW references and connections people are making and assuming when GoW DID NOT come up with any of the references they are trying to make.

GoW is one of the most significant and successful shooter franchises of all time, and is especially considered one of the defining franchises of this console generation. It gets referenced because it was very successful at including both meathead characters and some of the smoothest TPS gameplay in recent memory. It didn't necessarily innovate, but it did its attempt in a uniquely popular way.

I understand that but does it really hurt for people to actually make an attempt to make references that actually fit and make sense? No one would be comparing a movie character or a book character to GoW if they released a meathead type character. I guess I am just preaching to the choir since most people just going for the typical meme like: *insert arrow to the knee thing* since they are too damn lazy to actually do any real research or try to be creative and original.

[lobi]

OP's pick for J. Vega



(BTW this guy could kick our collective a** and not break a sweat)

Modifié par lobi, 25 janvier 2012 - 05:53 .

[Drone223]

*Looks at OP*
*Facepalm's*

OP Character's shouldn't be judged based on apperance alone, I'll admit the character design in GOW isn't the best but there are interesting character's if you attention, beside's I'm looking foward to meeting Vega 

[Bogsnot1]

Tickedtank wrote...

Vega is also bisexual. That sparring scene with maleshep in the demo actually occurs before the climax of their romantic relationship.

So they both get beaten around the ring?

[Adugan]

But wait, you have no choice but to be confronted by his lust for manshep. If you refuse, Vega will hate you forever and leave your squad.

[Badak531]

Honestly I somewhat agree with the op, when they first released pictures of Vega my first thought was bench warmer because he reminded me of not only GOW but Jersey shore. Now that Bioware released the information on who the VA was well if it wasn't required to do all the missions and side missions then Vega would never leave the ship.
Now my issue with Freddie Prinze Jr. is that after he made that thing called wing commander :sick:I basically stopped watching any and all of his work.
 
For all the people that say not to judge a book by its cover haven't you ever seen someone or met someone that at first glance they were just off, weird or you just did not want to talk to them or be in the same general area as them?
You might say that you don't judge people simpley on appearance but that just bs, everyone at some level judges and is judged on their appearance daily.

[Icinix]

Rezources wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Rezources wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Rezources wrote...

I can only hope Vega's loyalty mission involves finding his wife.

..or husband.

Was it confirmed that he is gay or bisexual? People seem to be throwing that out there pretty regularly but I don't know where that started.

No - but it hasn't been confirmed either way.

They said new characters for same sex relationships - so far Vega is the only new character we've seen.

Odds are good. Not to mention it would totally fly in the face of 'stereotypical GoW / COD soldier' 

Unless I missed something form COD and GOW. In which case, ignore that that last line.

Come on, we all know that Dom and Marcus had something going on.

That particular topic has come up numerous times hasn't it?

I think good on them for making people question it - despite the internet vitriol that has been spewed fourth.

[Unbannable]

JasonPogo wrote...

 I have to say the roid look he has going on is right out of GoW.  Xbox is having some kinda sale for GoW and they have a pic of some GoW chatacter and every time i see it i kee thinking it is Vega.

Typical BSNer.  This guy himself is probably some skinny weakling or a fat couch potato, so of course he would feel threatened by a muscular man; even if said muscular man is nothing more than a digital character.

There is nothing about Vega's build that suggests he's on roids, or even excessively muscular.  A man can attain that level of muscularity naturally without much difficulty.

[Icinix]

Unbannable wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

 I have to say the roid look he has going on is right out of GoW.  Xbox is having some kinda sale for GoW and they have a pic of some GoW chatacter and every time i see it i kee thinking it is Vega.

Typical BSNer.  This guy himself is probably some skinny weakling or a fat couch potato, so of course he would feel threatened by a muscular man; even if said muscular man is nothing more than a digital character.

There is nothing about Vega's build that suggests he's on roids, or even excessively muscular.  A man can attain that level of muscularity naturally without much difficulty.

Not much difficulty?

You ****ting me?

To get and maintain that kind of physique would hardly be what I would describe as 'without much difficulty'.

I don't agree with the steroids comment, but not much difficulty is just as silly a comment.

[Unbannable]

Icinix wrote...

Not much difficulty?

You ****ting me?

To get and maintain that kind of physique would hardly be what I would describe as 'without much difficulty'.

I don't agree with the steroids comment, but not much difficulty is just as silly a comment.

OK, perhaps I should have been a bit clearer on the difficulty.  If a guy is naturally small and skinny, then yes, he would have a hell of a time getting to that level.

But if a guy is already naturally muscular, then no, it wouldn't be that difficult for him.  James Vega is muscular, but he still looks naturally muscular, and has a physique much closer to that of an athlete than to a bodybuilder.

So basically it looks like he works out, but he's still a natural.

[Icinix]

Unbannable wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Not much difficulty?

You ****ting me?

To get and maintain that kind of physique would hardly be what I would describe as 'without much difficulty'.

I don't agree with the steroids comment, but not much difficulty is just as silly a comment.

OK, perhaps I should have been a bit clearer on the difficulty.  If a guy is naturally small and skinny, then yes, he would have a hell of a time getting to that level.

But if a guy is already naturally muscular, then no, it wouldn't be that difficult for him.  James Vega is muscular, but he still looks naturally muscular, and has a physique much closer to that of an athlete than to a bodybuilder.

So basically it looks like he works out, but he's still a natural.

Ahh - in that case yes.

Maintaining a high level of fitness and physique is much, much easier.

I agree.

[Lotion Soronarr]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

As long as pandering to the other crowd doesn't draw us too far out of what's appropriate for this game.  I don't think a muscular military guy does that, but I'd complain if one of our squadmates was a My Little Pony

I take offense to that, sir. That would be a WONDERFUL idea.

Only if we can brutally kill it with a chainsaw.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Unbannable wrote...
There is nothing about Vega's build that suggests he's on roids, or even excessively muscular.  A man can attain that level of muscularity naturally without much difficulty.

Not so sure about that.

There's a very fine limit to a human body, and 99,9% of body-builders use supplements, pills or roids.

[someguy1231]

Genshie wrote...

Why is Gears of War like the end all to be all when making comparisons about military or fictional warfare? Gears of War brought nothing new to the table and I am really getting annoyed with all the dumb GoW references and connections people are making and assuming when GoW DID NOT come up with any of the references they are trying to make.

The reasons people make the comparisons to GoW are simple:

-Both have military sci-fi themes
-Both have a third-person perspective
-Both have a cover system
-Both involve shooter combat as an essential part of gameplay
-Both run on the Unreal Engine
-And now, as of ME3, both have a co-op mode involving surviving against waves of enemies

As for GoW not doing things first, that doesn't matter. As I've said in other threads, in the gaming industry it doesn't matter who does it first. What matters is who does it best. And when it comes to third-person shooters and games with cover systems, GoW is the gold standard by far.

You can get the GoW Triple pack (First two games plus DLC) for only $30. More than a few former GoW haters on these forums have been converted after trying it out. I suggest you give it a try if you want to see why people make all the comparisons.

[Descy_]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Unbannable wrote...
There is nothing about Vega's build that suggests he's on roids, or even excessively muscular.  A man can attain that level of muscularity naturally without much difficulty.

Not so sure about that.

There's a very fine limit to a human body, and 99,9% of body-builders use supplements, pills or roids.

99.9% of statistics are bull****.

[syllogi]

Icinix wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

 I have to say the roid look he has going on is right out of GoW.  Xbox is having some kinda sale for GoW and they have a pic of some GoW chatacter and every time i see it i kee thinking it is Vega.

Typical BSNer.  This guy himself is probably some skinny weakling or a fat couch potato, so of course he would feel threatened by a muscular man; even if said muscular man is nothing more than a digital character.

There is nothing about Vega's build that suggests he's on roids, or even excessively muscular.  A man can attain that level of muscularity naturally without much difficulty.

Not much difficulty?

You ****ting me?

To get and maintain that kind of physique would hardly be what I would describe as 'without much difficulty'.

I don't agree with the steroids comment, but not much difficulty is just as silly a comment.

Yeah, I only have known a few people into bodybuilding in my life, and they were all extremely dedicated, had diets that they followed slavishly (even when they were bulking, that was part of the diet and whether they felt like it or not, they stuck to it), and it became both a hobby and a lifestyle.  Saying most men can have a physique like Vega is dismissing the combination of hard work and luck of genetics that it actually comes down to.  

[MasterSamson88]

I'm not sure why "Vega is a big muscular guy" is so hard to take... I mean he IS a marine after all. And some people just have the genes to get that big naturally with a lot of work.

I've got nothing against Vega.

[KBomb]

So what if they did make James Vega for that reason? Who cares. It isn’t going to change your gaming experience. Leave him behind if you don’t want to be around him. I like that he is different than the rest of the crew.


No doubt the asari race is fan service. It doesn’t bother me. Even though they are fan service, I think the game would be poorer without them in it. Diversity is good and should be embraced. Besides, I am a GoW fan, I am also a CoD fan and a ME fan--as are a lot of people here. If someone has never played ME because they were too busy playing GoW, I highly doubt they’d shell out $60 for a game they know nothing about just to play a beefcake. The whole theory is absurd.