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[Paragade27]

 In both games you would talk to an LI, get to know them, flirt a bit. Eventually, you both admit your mutual attraction and have the sex scene. 

I liked how it worked but now I wonder, how will this work in ME3? My canon shep romanced Liara in the first game, stayed loyal in ME2 and romanced her again in LOTSB. I wonder how this will be handled in ME3, for all loyal Li's, since the relationship is pretty much definitive from the very start of the game (presumably). Now i'm thinking of playing through ME2 again and romancing someone because I have a feeling it will be boring for those who stayed loyal.

What do you guys think?

[Stalker]

I'm of the opinion that you are not really cheating.
Anyway, it can just be positive. Eventually you get another dialogue that is made more of love than cheating.

[Lethania]

Ooor, you have several playthroughs

I have one where I romance Thane, and one when I romanced Garrus, and one where I stayed loyal to Kaidan. Just to see what happens in ME3 (Jacob was never even an option tbh)

[AgitatedLemon]

I'd assume a few extra "in love" dialogues to express Shepard and X romance's feelings for one another.

[McManus001]

i don't really think its cheating seeing as Shepard died

[heretica]

McManus001 wrote...

i don't really think its cheating seeing as Shepard died

I can't see the logic behind that. 

[McManus001]

well the way i see it when you die you lose everything you had (such as Spectre status and relationships) and when Shepard is brought back its a new life with a fresh start or maybe im feeling a little guilty about going with Tali after Liara.

[Darth Malice113]

When you die your relationships with others usually end. Seeing as how you couldn't renew the relationship( with the exeption of Liara) with your LI in ME2. Ash pretty much closes that door on Horizon. I moved on with someone new. Not cheating.

[McManus001]

and how do we know your LI in ME1 didn't cheat on you 2 years is a long time.

[heretica]

Don't you get the sex scene after Horizon? That's cheating because it's not like you die, you come back to life and never see the guy/girl again. How is that not cheating? There was no closure...

The relationship is forced to end because.. well.. you die. But once you meet your LI again, they are obviously angry because they spent the last 2 years thinking Shepard was dead and all of a sudden he/she is alive. :/

About moving on, I think it's made clear they tried to move on but once the LI sees Shepard again **** happens because they are still in love. The relationship didn't "end", you just died. Of course, you have the chance to end the relationship with them during Horizon I think (I don't now how it works with Liara) and then it wouldn't be considered like cheating.

Anyway, just my opinion..

[Wulfram]

It is interesting to see how they'll handle a pre-existing relationship. They haven't really done it since ToB, and it would be distinctly annoying if they just hit the reset button. With Liara in particular they've got quite a few potential situations which should be dealt with differently, since as well as potential ME2 romance complications they have to deal with people who didn't play LotSB. And potentially people who played LotSB but didn't really reestablish the relationship.

Lets not get into yet another "it's not really cheating" debate, please. That's not what the thread is about.

[syllogi]

The OP said nothing about cheating. He is staying "loyal"...even if you're broken up with someone, it's possible to feel loyal or faithful to the person.

I hope that the reward for sticking with one LI through all three games is more content with the LI. I'm all for allowing new relationships with Ashley, Liara, or Kaidan, but those who waited deserve extra attention, in my opinion.

[Darth Malice113]

You heard it here, moving on is now cheating. More like possesive BS. My relationship with Ash is over. Can it be renewed sure, but that's my choice. I guess I'm cheating on the Asari Consort too. Seeing as how I had a fling with her then pursued a relationship with Ash ( Who wanted nothing to do with me on Horizon BTW) . In case you didn't notice, things are not the way you left them when you died. And with what happens on Horizon, I wouldn't call that a being in a current romantic relationship. If you were able to renew your realtionship with the LI from ME1( like Liara) then got busy with a new LI. Then that is cheating. But your interaction with the VS is not a renewell of LI relationship. Not cheating. This whole argument smacks of possive ownership, and thus is quite lame. If my girlfriend walks off a tells me " good luck, maybee I'll see you around" Does that sound like a we are still boyfriend/girlfriend? No, it sounds like there are other fish in the sea.

But I do think you should have benefits for "staying loyal" . I have a few loyal  LI  playthroughs, and I'd like to see something special for doing so. But I do have one Shep that is a straight up cheating ass. He had a fling with the Consort, romanced Liara, had casual sex with Jack down in the hold, got with liara again in LOTSB, then hooked up with Miranda on Suicide Mission. Then got killed by Morinth. 

My main Shep went  Ash then Jack. I wanted a little drama in those relationships, guess I'm gonna get it.

Modifié par Darth Malice113, 27 janvier 2012 - 03:03 .

[McManus001]

syllogi wrote...

The OP said nothing about cheating. He is staying "loyal"...even if you're broken up with someone, it's possible to feel loyal or faithful to the person.

I hope that the reward for sticking with one LI through all three games is more content with the LI. I'm all for allowing new relationships with Ashley, Liara, or Kaidan, but those who waited deserve extra attention, in my opinion.

what kind of new content?

[heretica]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

You heard it here, moving on is now cheating. More like possesive BS. My relationship with Ash is over. Can it be renewed sure, but that's my choice. I guess I'm cheating on the Asari Consort too. Seeing as how I had a fling with her then pursued a relationship with Ash ( Who wanted nothing to do with me on Horizon BTW) . In case you didn't notice, things are not the way you left them when you died. And with what happens on Horizon, I wouldn't call that a being in a current romantic relationship. If you were able to renew your realtionship with the LI from ME1( like Liara) then got busy with a new LI. Then that is cheating. But your interaction with the VS is not a renewell of LI relationship. Not cheating. This whole argument smacks of possive ownership, and thus is quite lame. If my girlfriend walks off a tells me " good luck, maybee I'll see you around" Does that sound like a we are still boyfriend/girlfriend? No, it sounds like there are other fish in the sea.

So much misinterpretation. I'm not going to bother. 

I'm talking here about the "staying loyal" to the VS, in my game, Kaidan. I can take the post-horizon mail into account and the dialogue bits to know that Shepard and Kaidan, in my game, are still in a relationship. The game didn't handle this very well, so a lot os left to the imagination/interpretation. But as I understand it, one does not simply say "Ah, I died, and it's been 2 years, we haven't spoken ever since because I'm busy saving the galaxy, so it probably means we are no longer in a relationship." 

Moving on, I want to see some consequences, some "progression" as the OP mentions. I don't want to start the game and act like nothing happened during ME2.

[McManus001]

i personally think instead of getting rewards for staying true to the LI as it were they should be angry with your acts in ME2 something like an argument or something

[android654]

What will happen if you stay loyal? Nothing will happen but continuing the same relationship. Just like real life, boring.

Modifié par android654, 27 janvier 2012 - 03:15 .

[McManus001]

android654 wrote...

just like real life, boring.

ok then a gunfight on a planet where an asteroid is hurtling towards it......better

[android654]

McManus001 wrote...

android654 wrote...

just like real life, boring.

ok then a gunfight on a planet where an asteroid is hurtling towards it......better

Is the asteroid on fire and filled with explosives and protruding giant knives? It might help the atmosphere a bit.

Also, that was towards the op, not you.

[Darth Malice113]

McManus001 wrote...

i personally think instead of getting rewards for staying true to the LI as it were they should be angry with your acts in ME2 something like an argument or something

Liara didn't seem too angry with your work with Cerberus. She was being understanding in LOTSB. But the VS's on the other hand were not happy.

Modifié par Darth Malice113, 27 janvier 2012 - 03:18 .

[McManus001]

android654 wrote...

McManus001 wrote...

android654 wrote...

just like real life, boring.

ok then a gunfight on a planet where an asteroid is hurtling towards it......better

Is the asteroid on fire and filled with explosives and protruding giant knives? It might help the atmosphere a bit.

Also, that was towards the op, not you.

oh sorry must have misread

[android654]

McManus001 wrote...

android654 wrote...

McManus001 wrote...

android654 wrote...

just like real life, boring.

ok then a gunfight on a planet where an asteroid is hurtling towards it......better

Is the asteroid on fire and filled with explosives and protruding giant knives? It might help the atmosphere a bit.

Also, that was towards the op, not you.

oh sorry must have misread

My fault, there was no specificity in it so I had to revise it.

[McManus001]

but the astroid idea wasnt bad right

[Paragade27]

Wulfram wrote...

It is interesting to see how they'll handle a pre-existing relationship. They haven't really done it since ToB, and it would be distinctly annoying if they just hit the reset button. With Liara in particular they've got quite a few potential situations which should be dealt with differently, since as well as potential ME2 romance complications they have to deal with people who didn't play LotSB. And potentially people who played LotSB but didn't really reestablish the relationship.

Lets not get into yet another "it's not really cheating" debate, please. That's not what the thread is about.

Yes, finally someone who understands.  I've already had the "It's not considered cheating" argument and I agree somewhat that since you died it's not considered cheating.

I guess wording my post with "cheating" and "loyal" wasn't too accurate. But I simply was asking how they would handle pre-existing releationships as opposed to people who romanced different LI's across the two games, because bioware made it clear that there would be some consequences and unique situations for romancing two different LI's.

[android654]

McManus001 wrote...

but the astroid idea wasnt bad right

It sounds...

smashingB)