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LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

Hey guys kind of a noob question but can you tell me how to check facecodes in ME1 and 2 on Xbox or can you only do that on PC? I want to test them in the ME3 demo but I can't find the codes on the squad screen. :(


No facecodes in ME1, and none in ME2 if you imported from 1 without editing.  The facecode system is only there if you changed your look at the beginning of ME2.

Hope that helps.

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cgrimm54 wrote...

LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

Hey guys kind of a noob question but can you tell me how to check facecodes in ME1 and 2 on Xbox or can you only do that on PC? I want to test them in the ME3 demo but I can't find the codes on the squad screen. :(


No facecodes in ME1, and none in ME2 if you imported from 1 without editing.  The facecode system is only there if you changed your look at the beginning of ME2.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: ToP



And it may appear for imported Sheps too if you started to create new face but reverted back to imported face. In that case it will be wrong face code.

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leggywillow wrote...

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I agree about the browns but I sincerely doubt they will change by release. The game is less than a month from store shelves. It's done.


The game is, yeah, but the demo material isn't quite the same.  I imagine it had its own deadline to meet and thus would have been sort of... separated from the actual game quite some time ago, so to speak.

For example, the CC in the DA2 demo was locked but people managed to hack their way into it and some of the presets and options were pretty different from the game itself. EDIT: And IIRC, the DA2 demo was on about the same time frame, coming out right around or perhaps shortly before DA2 went gold.


I don't wish to be rude, but no it didn't? >.>..

The Dragon Age 2 demo didn't change from demo to live much at all? I think it changed a few colours for eyes/skin/hair and that was about it.

Overall, I am exceedingly disappointed with the Mass Effect 3 CC, but at the same time I'm not overly surprised. Biowares' strong point was never character creation, and I'm sure the story will be compelling enough that I can make a demi-decent looking Shepard and just power on through.

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M-Taylor wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...
I agree about the browns but I sincerely doubt they will change by release. The game is less than a month from store shelves. It's done.


The game is, yeah, but the demo material isn't quite the same.  I imagine it had its own deadline to meet and thus would have been sort of... separated from the actual game quite some time ago, so to speak.

For example, the CC in the DA2 demo was locked but people managed to hack their way into it and some of the presets and options were pretty different from the game itself. EDIT: And IIRC, the DA2 demo was on about the same time frame, coming out right around or perhaps shortly before DA2 went gold.


I don't wish to be rude, but no it didn't?

In your opinion, and not bourne out by fact. The DAII demo presets changed in the final game. I know this because I did some modding of some of the text files myself (once the CC was cracked open) and therefore kept copies of the demo ones in order to do the same with the final ones.

And coupled with the evidence of missing slider positions in thie ME3 demo, I'm inclined to believe it is a much earlier build than what is currently in certification lockdown.
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Now all this raging (by some) and worrying (by others) and comparing of eyeshadows and whatnot (by yet others) is entirely premature. Grow some quads people and wait for March 6/9. If it's still FUBAR then, go right ahead and be BSN again. I though the people posting in this thread was better than that.

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The ME3 demo is not based on the finished game, so you can safely assume, especially after all red and me layed out, that there will be changes in the finished game. And honestly I didn't waste my breath explaining that so all the complaining could continue.

Kyrene has it right, chill out and wait, can't judge yet.

Modifié par Ottemis, 12 février 2012 - 10:52 .


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"You look good, Shepard. Maybe a little soft around the edges."

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This is unbelieveable! She looks frickin amazing! I just had to favorite it on dA

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Kyrene wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...
I agree about the browns but I sincerely doubt they will change by release. The game is less than a month from store shelves. It's done.


The game is, yeah, but the demo material isn't quite the same.  I imagine it had its own deadline to meet and thus would have been sort of... separated from the actual game quite some time ago, so to speak.

For example, the CC in the DA2 demo was locked but people managed to hack their way into it and some of the presets and options were pretty different from the game itself. EDIT: And IIRC, the DA2 demo was on about the same time frame, coming out right around or perhaps shortly before DA2 went gold.


I don't wish to be rude, but no it didn't?

In your opinion, and not bourne out by fact. The DAII demo presets changed in the final game. I know this because I did some modding of some of the text files myself (once the CC was cracked open) and therefore kept copies of the demo ones in order to do the same with the final ones.

And coupled with the evidence of missing slider positions in thie ME3 demo, I'm inclined to believe it is a much earlier build than what is currently in certification lockdown.
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Now all this raging (by some) and worrying (by others) and comparing of eyeshadows and whatnot (by yet others) is entirely premature. Grow some quads people and wait for March 6/9. If it's still FUBAR then, go right ahead and be BSN again. I though the people posting in this thread was better than that.


No, it was born out of the simple fact of observation. The main defining traits of a person did not change from demo to live for Dragon Age 2, so I'm well within my rights to be worried/annoyed. The most obvious is the glaring, unattractive traits of the hair (They've completely ruined the bun hair).

Judging by previous demos of Bioware games, the hair in the demo has never changed and usually is final. If this is true, then yes, I am angry. I don't see why Bioware continually miss the fundamental fact that your characters appearance is probably one of the most important features of an RPG game, yet they continually create a limited character creation. Over and over again, within each seperate game unit.

Edit:

Angry probably isn't the right word. I'm not exactly sitting here contemplating how horrible this game is. I'm still obviously going to play it, and enjoy it because of the story, but I certainly am disappointed.

Modifié par M-Taylor, 12 février 2012 - 11:03 .


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M-Taylor: You don't like it, I do. I think the mesh changes are glorious. The hair looks WAY more natural. What we had in the first and second game were hairstyles where half would be a mesh and half would be sorted with pure texturing, that made the lighting respond differently on different parts of the hair. That problem is now sorted.
Then there's the sh*tty polishing on Manshep's hairstyles and the plain lack of options through the CC and looky now, highly improved reworked mesh texturing to give us way better looking hair and his options don't do under for Femshep anymore at this moment.

I am ON THE FRIGGIN MOON about these changes for both fanbases.
I am of the opinion that Bioware listened fine, they just didn't please you as they can't please everyone.

"continually miss the fundamental fact that your characters appearance is probably one of the most important features of an RPG game,"

This right here is EXACTLY what they're respecting if you ask me.

Modifié par Ottemis, 12 février 2012 - 11:16 .


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M-Taylor wrote...

No, it was born out of the simple fact of observation. The main defining traits of a person did not change from demo to live for Dragon Age 2, so I'm well within my rights to be worried/annoyed. The most obvious is the glaring, unattractive traits of the hair (They've completely ruined the bun hair).

Judging by previous demos of Bioware games, the hair in the demo has never changed and usually is final. If this is true, then yes, I am angry. I don't see why Bioware continually miss the fundamental fact that your characters appearance is probably one of the most important features of an RPG game, yet they continually create a limited character creation. Over and over again, within each seperate game unit.

Edit:

Angry probably isn't the right word. I'm not exactly sitting here contemplating how horrible this game is. I'm still obviously going to play it, and enjoy it because of the story, but I certainly am disappointed.

What rights are those? The only right you have is to get the product you paid for. Whether you end up liking that product or not is not a right, but a choice. Your sense of entitlement is monumentous in this. Grow a quad and "pre-order cancelled" ME3, or STFU!

ETA: Removed quote pyramid.

Modifié par Kyrene, 12 février 2012 - 11:51 .


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Ottemis wrote...

M-Taylor: You don't like it, I do. I think the mesh changes are glorious. The hair looks WAY more natural. What we had in the first and second game were hairstyles where half would be a mesh and half would be sorted with pure texturing, that made the lighting respond differently on different parts of the hair. That problem is now sorted.
Then there's the sh*tty polishing on Manshep's hairstyles and the plain lack of options through the CC and looky now, highly improved reworked mesh texturing to give us way better looking hair and his options don't do under for Femshep anymore at this moment.

I am ON THE FRIGGIN MOON about these changes for both fanbases.
I am of the opinion that Bioware listened fine, they just didn't please you as they can't please everyone.

"continually miss the fundamental fact that your characters appearance is probably one of the most important features of an RPG game,"

This right here is EXACTLY what they're respecting if you ask me.


Yes, and I'm happy for you, I genuinally am. But diversity has never been Biowares strong suit with character appearance. And I do agree, the texture is a vast improvement; however in my honest opinion the styles are not. A fair amount of people have commneted on the unusual twist the bun styles have taken, so for what seems like a sizeable amount of people, the hair styles have no increased but have actually decreased.

Yes, my main gripe is with the actual hair styles. Call me fickle, but.. I don't know. I've always imagined my Shepard with long-ish hair (like most of my RPG characters) and this has always been denied from Bioware. This would be completely fine by me if modders could not make better.

For example, Dragon Age: Origins. The hair was again limited, but my friend managed to create a long/curly hair mod within a relatively short amount of time which looked far better than the original hair. This infers to me that creating hair mod/textures or what ever is not overly taxing on resources, so denying people to even have *one* long hair mod is something I've struggled to fathom for a while now.

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Kyrene wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...
I agree about the browns but I sincerely doubt they will change by release. The game is less than a month from store shelves. It's done.


The game is, yeah, but the demo material isn't quite the same.  I imagine it had its own deadline to meet and thus would have been sort of... separated from the actual game quite some time ago, so to speak.

For example, the CC in the DA2 demo was locked but people managed to hack their way into it and some of the presets and options were pretty different from the game itself. EDIT: And IIRC, the DA2 demo was on about the same time frame, coming out right around or perhaps shortly before DA2 went gold.


I don't wish to be rude, but no it didn't?

In your opinion, and not bourne out by fact. The DAII demo presets changed in the final game. I know this because I did some modding of some of the text files myself (once the CC was cracked open) and therefore kept copies of the demo ones in order to do the same with the final ones.

And coupled with the evidence of missing slider positions in thie ME3 demo, I'm inclined to believe it is a much earlier build than what is currently in certification lockdown.
***
Now all this raging (by some) and worrying (by others) and comparing of eyeshadows and whatnot (by yet others) is entirely premature. Grow some quads people and wait for March 6/9. If it's still FUBAR then, go right ahead and be BSN again. I though the people posting in this thread was better than that.


No, it was born out of the simple fact of observation. The main defining traits of a person did not change from demo to live for Dragon Age 2, so I'm well within my rights to be worried/annoyed. The most obvious is the glaring, unattractive traits of the hair (They've completely ruined the bun hair).

Judging by previous demos of Bioware games, the hair in the demo has never changed and usually is final. If this is true, then yes, I am angry. I don't see why Bioware continually miss the fundamental fact that your characters appearance is probably one of the most important features of an RPG game, yet they continually create a limited character creation. Over and over again, within each seperate game unit.

Edit:

Angry probably isn't the right word. I'm not exactly sitting here contemplating how horrible this game is. I'm still obviously going to play it, and enjoy it because of the story, but I certainly am disappointed.

What rights are those? The only right you have is to get the product you paid for. Whether you end up liking that product or not is not a right, but a choice. Your sense of entitlement is monumentous in this. Grow a quad and "pre-order cancelled" ME3, or STFU!


My right as a paying customer to offer my opinion. The same right, which was sizeable enough to affect Bioware, which entilted Tali to become a full fledged squadmate. I've yet to be rude to you, but you've been continually rude to me so I'll just no bother to reply to you now to be quite frank.

Modifié par M-Taylor, 12 février 2012 - 11:18 .


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But then you can't be sure these are all the hairstyles, because again, this is the pre-release demo.
You argumentation about the buns I can totally understand, but the rest you're basing on the assumptions that's all the wrote, and that's not necessarily the case.

Kyrene, not much unlike me is getting a bit tired of all the complaining I think. Which is not so much purely directed at you as it is at all of it. ALOT of the complaining is based on assumptions that should logicly not be pulled yet.

Modifié par Ottemis, 12 février 2012 - 11:21 .


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Ehh, I've always generally like BW CC's. DA had the problem of not dark enough skin tones but ME's ones have been great.

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Ottemis wrote...

The ME3 demo is not based on the finished game, so you can safely assume, especially after all red and me layed out, that there will be changes in the finished game. And honestly I didn't waste my breath explaining that so all the complaining could continue.

Kyrene has it right, chill out and wait, can't judge yet.

Better to expect the worst. Can't say that I have high hopes for magical changes in final version...

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Ottemis wrote...

But then you can't be sure these are all the hairstyles, because again, this is the pre-release demo.
You argumentation about the buns I can totally understand, but the rest you're basing on the assumptions that's all the wrote, and that's not necessarily the case.

Kyrene, not much unlike me is getting a bit tired of all the complaining I think. Which is not so much purely directed at you as it is at all of it. ALOT of the complaining is based on assumptions that should logicly not be pulled yet.


Which is why I'm not hysterically ranting yet :P.

No I kid, like I said, I've become somewhat accustomed to Biowares character creation. And call me pesimistic, but the demo's I've been in for Bioware (DA/2/Mass Effect 2), the hair didn't change from demo to live.

But alas, I'll cope with the hair I have. The last one doesn't look too bad, and the bob with no fringe also isn't too bad. But my idea of having hair like Miranda is quickly dwindling. >.>

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M-Taylor wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

What rights are those? The only right you have is to get the product you paid for. Whether you end up liking that product or not is not a right, but a choice. Your sense of entitlement is monumentous in this. Grow a quad and "pre-order cancelled" ME3, or STFU!


My right as a paying customer to offer my opinion. The same right, which was sizeable enough to affect Bioware, which entilted Tali to become a full fledged squadmate. I've yet to be rude to you, but you've been continually rude to me so I'll just no bother to reply to you now to be quite frank.

Again, you confuse a right with a privelidge. BioWare gives you the privelidge to b*tch and moan and offer your opinions. They like your repeat business, so sometimes they even listen to all you have to say.

Yeah, go ahaead and project a little onto me if you wish. You seem to see rebuttal of your arguments to be rudeness. And, as is your right, you may ignore me. Thanks for your candor, as it will allow me to ignore you too now.

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Kyrene wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

What rights are those? The only right you have is to get the product you paid for. Whether you end up liking that product or not is not a right, but a choice. Your sense of entitlement is monumentous in this. Grow a quad and "pre-order cancelled" ME3, or STFU!


My right as a paying customer to offer my opinion. The same right, which was sizeable enough to affect Bioware, which entilted Tali to become a full fledged squadmate. I've yet to be rude to you, but you've been continually rude to me so I'll just no bother to reply to you now to be quite frank.

Again, you confuse a right with a privelidge. BioWare gives you the privelidge to b*tch and moan and offer your opinions. They like your repeat business, so sometimes they even listen to all you have to say.

Yeah, go ahaead and project a little onto me if you wish. You seem to see rebuttal of your arguments to be rudeness. And, as is your right, you may ignore me. Thanks for your candor, as it will allow me to ignore you too now.

There has been somethings mentioned as things missing from the demo's CC so we can already assume that this won't be an issue. I personally think import feature will make us all rest easy in the full game since then we will know for certain how things will turn out. Also if a person is a pc player I don't think they should be complaining since they can always mod. So in general I believe most of the people ****ing or running around like headless chickens are overreacting just a tad bit.

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Kyrene wrote...

M-Taylor wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

What rights are those? The only right you have is to get the product you paid for. Whether you end up liking that product or not is not a right, but a choice. Your sense of entitlement is monumentous in this. Grow a quad and "pre-order cancelled" ME3, or STFU!


My right as a paying customer to offer my opinion. The same right, which was sizeable enough to affect Bioware, which entilted Tali to become a full fledged squadmate. I've yet to be rude to you, but you've been continually rude to me so I'll just no bother to reply to you now to be quite frank.

*snip*

Yeah, go ahaead and project a little onto me if you wish. You seem to see rebuttal of your arguments to be rudeness. And, as is your right, you may ignore me. Thanks for your candor, as it will allow me to ignore you too now.


-Telling me I'm raging, when really, I'm not.

-Telling me to get out or STFU

-Continual tone of patronising.

Does this.. equal positive behaviour to you? Really?

Edit:

Damn it, okay. Now I really won't reply. :whistle:

Modifié par M-Taylor, 12 février 2012 - 11:36 .


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Genshie wrote...

So in general I believe most of the people ****ing or running around like headless chickens are overreacting just a tad bit.

Sadly, the voice of reason is not welcome here. You have to hand it in when you log onto BSN. Posted Image

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Posted Image Fat or not, at least she has nice hair. Some poor femSheps have gotten fat and now part their hair on the wrong side. Or so I'm led to believe... Posted Image

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I can understand some people being concerned about how there Shepard is going to look in ME3, but as has been pointed out multiple times, this is a demo, so isn't guarenteed to be the final version of the CC.

The other thing a lot of people aren't taking in to consideration is that in the demo you're recreating your Shepard using an ME2 face code. No one has any idea what an impored Shepard is going to look like. This happened with ME1 imports to ME2 as well. Certain options were only available when importing a save file.

March the 6th/9th isn't that far away, so wait and see what happens in the retail release, using your actual save file from ME2 before getting too worked up about things.

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Akari Tenshi wrote...

I can understand some people being concerned about how there Shepard is going to look in ME3, but as has been pointed out multiple times, this is a demo, so isn't guarenteed to be the final version of the CC.

The other thing a lot of people aren't taking in to consideration is that in the demo you're recreating your Shepard using an ME2 face code. No one has any idea what an impored Shepard is going to look like. This happened with ME1 imports to ME2 as well. Certain options were only available when importing a save file.

March the 6th/9th isn't that far away, so wait and see what happens in the retail release, using your actual save file from ME2 before getting too worked up about things.



Of course, that's completely true. But the other side of the argument is, when are you meant to offer your opinion/criticism for it to actually be factored in? I mean, if we all waited till it's been released, nothing would ever change.

But at the same time, I'm fully aware that nothing will be changed now and what ever will be will be. I just hope you're right and more hair is in the final version; if not the start of Mass Effect 3 for me will be mixed in a vague disappointment. :pinched:

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http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1082&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.zetaboards.com%2FCharacter_Discussion%2Ftopic%2F6908769%2F18%2F%23new&v=1&libid=1329011926709&out=http%3A%2F%2Fpics.livejournal.com%2Fmd_kiryu%2Fpic%2F002wgcce&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fs15.zetaboards.com%2FCharacter_Discussion%2Findex%2F&title=Is%20female%20Shepard%20ignored%2Foverlooked%3F&txt=View%20Full%20Image&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13290119251211

Hmm. Looks like they've changed the "icon bun" style to use the same mesh as all the other up-dos. Which, given that it is now a mesh rather than a scalp texture, makes sense from a resources point of view, but I did quite like how the ME1/2 icon bun appeared more tightly "scraped back" than all the other up-do styles, as it suited my super-disciplined-paragon Aki perfectly.

I do very much like what they've done with the ponytail though. Putting those strands in to soften it a bit looks very good. Given that Aki went from down-past-her-waist hair (in a bun) in ME1 to a much shorter style in ME2 (and she was pissed about that - some Shepards lost tattoos to Lazarus, some lost scars, Aki lost her beloved long hair!) , I'm thinking that the ponytail is about right for six months of working on growing it all back again.

Can't wait to get into the PC demo on the 14th and see what she looks like!