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[Wulfram]

Sole Survivor is annoying in ME2, because of the massive issue with them and Cerberus which is totally ignored.

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Modifié par Wulfram, 22 février 2012 - 12:16 .

[phantomdragoness]

QwibQwib wrote...

I'm wondering If I should start another FemShep...

Space Born
Ruthless
Renegon

Or

Spaceborn
Sole Survivor
Renegade

Help me! I already have colonist - war hero | Earthborn - War Hero and both are paragon >.<

*delurking again*

I have a Spacer/Ruthless and I LOVE her. She doesn't make apologies, and while she always tries to find the best way through, she realizes that sometimes life doesn't give her that option - hence her actions on Torphan. The Batarians were not moving while her team was losing ground. She realized she needed to send the entire Batarian race a message: don't **** with humanity. While she lost her entire squad and executed the prisoners, she repeats this phrase like a mantra:

"It's how it had to be."

She does have a case of survivor's guilt, but she hides it due to her sense of duty. She's tough, but she focuses on more than just her job: her crew is very important to her; if anyone suggests otherwise because of her noteriety, they will get a boot in their face.

While your Spacer may be different, this is how I saw my Spacer when I first made her. It's a very fascinating background, and can be just as gritty as Colonist/Ruthless. It's almost a contradictory, because as a Spacer you'd think Shepard would be taught to follow the rules and do what's best. But when the Spacer is dropped on Torphan, she is forced to make horrible decisions to save whatever colonists were taken, and to show the batarian slavers that humanity is a force to be reckoned with. Of course, her actions aren't without consequences for humanity's record, and then Shepard's reputation and soul.

Hope that helped!

*relurk*

[QwibQwib]

Captain Crash wrote...

 Still think Spacer and Sole Survivor are the best combo  


Your moms around (hopefully more then an email in ME3) and surviving an attack like Acuse I think is the most fitting way Shepard character is built.   Some really deep scars there which she has overcome

Awesome! Thank you!, and what alignment? I want to make different choices..but I'm too scared >.< being mean for me is being stupid xD

phantomdragoness wrote...

*delurking again*

I have a Spacer/Ruthless and I LOVE her. She doesn't make apologies, and while she always tries to find the best way through, she realizes that sometimes life doesn't give her that option - hence her actions on Torphan. The Batarians were not moving while her team was losing ground. She realized she needed to send the entire Batarian race a message: don't **** with humanity. While she lost her entire squad and executed the prisoners, she repeats this phrase like a mantra:

"It's how it had to be."

She does have a case of survivor's guilt, but she hides it due to her sense of duty. She's tough, but she focuses on more than just her job: her crew is very important to her; if anyone suggests otherwise because of her noteriety, they will get a boot in their face. 

While your Spacer may be different, this is how I saw my Spacer when I first made her. It's a very fascinating background, and can be just as gritty as Colonist/Ruthless. It's almost a contradictory, because as a Spacer you'd think Shepard would be taught to follow the rules and do what's best. But when the Spacer is dropped on Torphan, she is forced to make horrible decisions to save whatever colonists were taken, and to show the batarian slavers that humanity is a force to be reckoned with. Of course, her actions aren't without consequences for humanity's record, and then Shepard's reputation and soul. 

Hope that helped!

*relurk*

 

Damn...killing my entire...team...wow...I could kill jacob ! umm...i like Tali....and...Garrus and..Thane...and Miri....I could kill Zaeed...umm...I like Samara...and Jack...dhjgfjhdgff, I could kill the Rachni..but then...again ... jhdfgfhdgbfjd

Thanks >.<

Modifié par QwibQwib, 22 février 2012 - 12:31 .

[raziel1980]

QwibQwib wrote...

I'm wondering If I should start another FemShep...

Space Born
Ruthless
Renegon

Or

Spaceborn
Sole Survivor
Renegade

Help me! I already have colonist - war hero | Earthborn - War Hero and both are paragon >.<

The BOLDED one...definetely! 

Oddly enough in all of my playthroughs of ME 2... I have NEVER killed any of my squad members...though that is probadly because of how I playthrough ME 2 all the time...

Modifié par raziel1980, 22 février 2012 - 12:36 .

[QwibQwib]

Lol xD you guys...this is going to be hard...I'll close my eyes everything my Baby FemShep is being mean..

[Captain Crash]

phantomdragoness wrote...

*delurking again*

I have a Spacer/Ruthless and I LOVE her. She doesn't make apologies, and while she always tries to find the best way through, she realizes that sometimes life doesn't give her that option - hence her actions on Torphan. The Batarians were not moving while her team was losing ground. She realized she needed to send the entire Batarian race a message: don't **** with humanity. While she lost her entire squad and executed the prisoners, she repeats this phrase like a mantra:

"It's how it had to be."

She does have a case of survivor's guilt, but she hides it due to her sense of duty. She's tough, but she focuses on more than just her job: her crew is very important to her; if anyone suggests otherwise because of her noteriety, they will get a boot in their face.

While your Spacer may be different, this is how I saw my Spacer when I first made her. It's a very fascinating background, and can be just as gritty as Colonist/Ruthless. It's almost a contradictory, because as a Spacer you'd think Shepard would be taught to follow the rules and do what's best. But when the Spacer is dropped on Torphan, she is forced to make horrible decisions to save whatever colonists were taken, and to show the batarian slavers that humanity is a force to be reckoned with. Of course, her actions aren't without consequences for humanity's record, and then Shepard's reputation and soul.

Hope that helped!

*relurk*

Ok I like that backstory!  :happy:   

Lets be fair, there isnt a bad choice if you craft a good background to her!    The options Bioware present you make for some really good stories


And dont delurk phantom that makes femshep a sad panda 

 

[SaturnRing]

AtlasMickey wrote...

June invented Malibu. No woman commetth unto thy rockin' convertibles except through her.

Online right now with friend if you wanna give mp a try.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 22 février 2012 - 01:08 .

[Eshaye]

bettak wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

krayzi wrote...

and as a bonus


hehe

   Brilliant  


Also your femshep is rather gorgeous I must say!  :happy:  

ROFL 

LOLOL that's just awesome! 

[Gilsa]

QwibQwib wrote...

Awesome! Thank you!, and what alignment? I want to make different choices..but I'm too scared >.< being mean for me is being stupid xD

Some actions really are just plain mean, but you can hit max renegade without being a real jerk. I was about 85% renegade and 70% paragon at the end of ME1 (was able to get the red planet ending) and had hit max renegade at the end of ME2 (DLCs helped). A few examples I can give to you that allows you to be a renegade, but still a decent person is:

1) Jack recruitment mission: Instead of telling the guard to "keep up the good work" in beating a prisoner, you tell him to stand down. He refuses. THEN you get the renegade choice of threatening him if he doesn't stop off the beating.

2) In the Thane recruitment mission (I think): You can skip the renegade interrupt of pushing a mercenary out the window and instead give him one more chance to reconsider his position with the renegade choice. He still lives this way.

3) If your renegade points are high enough by the time you do Thane's loyalty mission in interrogating what's his name, you can just wave the gun in his face and get an instant confession. No beating required whatsover. Thane will remark that was the fastest interrogation in history. =p

Bottom line: Don't force yourself to take a renegade line if it makes you uncomfortable. There have been times when I thought damn, that was way harsher than I thought it'd be and I would revert back to a save and redo the scene.

If anything, the hardest character for me to play was my pro-Cerebus gal. I ignored the morality meter and just picked whatever action fit the roleplay. I say hard because I made choices on her that I wouldn't do on my renegade. For example, she shot the politican in Thane's loyalty mission since he was anti-human. She let Cerebus keep David in the Overlord. She handed Veector over to Cerebus in the beginning and incurred Tali's wrath. (I was pleased to see that there was more dialogue about this at Tali's trial.) She sided with Miranda in the catfight since Jack was so anti-Cerebus and Jack ended up being the token death during the suicide mission. The hardest choice was to sell Legion to Cerebus because I really liked his character. I can't wait to play her in ME3 and see if I can continue to have her realistically be pro-Cerebus until the end. =p

[sagefic]

 

Tup3xi wrote...
Wouldn't it be great if your own Shep would actually give mission briefing in some missions? That would be pretty cool.

 

I would squee so much. I already have a silly fangirl crush on my own femshep.  


Randomly about renegades...

I really love a lot of the renegade lines, BUT there is some serious schitzo going on with how they wrote renegade, imo. 1/2 renegade lines are "RAWR! i has temper and i'm showing it." and the other 1/2 are "i am a cold, cold, icy cold b*stard/b*tch and I will kill you in icy cold blood."  <-- that is my experience, anyhow.

so when i pull renegade lines, i find doing pure renegade flows really weird. pure paragon is so sweet i get a toothache, but it is consistent. peace, love, and level-headed diplomacy (and sometimes naive trust) for all.  but when playing renegade, i kind of have to figure out which interrupts i'll take and which i won't because it's just too insane to pull them all (edit - gilsa has a good point there).

so kyrie gets all the cold b*tch lines (though she's mostly paragon)



and i've left the crazy talk/actions for nora.

Modifié par sagequeen, 22 février 2012 - 02:31 .

[QwibQwib]

Gilsa wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

Awesome! Thank you!, and what alignment? I want to make different choices..but I'm too scared >.< being mean for me is being stupid xD

Some actions really are just plain mean, but you can hit max renegade without being a real jerk. I was about 85% renegade and 70% paragon at the end of ME1 (was able to get the red planet ending) and had hit max renegade at the end of ME2 (DLCs helped). A few examples I can give to you that allows you to be a renegade, but still a decent person is:

1) Jack recruitment mission: Instead of telling the guard to "keep up the good work" in beating a prisoner, you tell him to stand down. He refuses. THEN you get the renegade choice of threatening him if he doesn't stop off the beating.

2) In the Thane recruitment mission (I think): You can skip the renegade interrupt of pushing a mercenary out the window and instead give him one more chance to reconsider his position with the renegade choice. He still lives this way.

3) If your renegade points are high enough by the time you do Thane's loyalty mission in interrogating what's his name, you can just wave the gun in his face and get an instant confession. No beating required whatsover. Thane will remark that was the fastest interrogation in history. =p

Bottom line: Don't force yourself to take a renegade line if it makes you uncomfortable. There have been times when I thought damn, that was way harsher than I thought it'd be and I would revert back to a save and redo the scene.

If anything, the hardest character for me to play was my pro-Cerebus gal. I ignored the morality meter and just picked whatever action fit the roleplay. I say hard because I made choices on her that I wouldn't do on my renegade. For example, she shot the politican in Thane's loyalty mission since he was anti-human. She let Cerebus keep David in the Overlord. She handed Veector over to Cerebus in the beginning and incurred Tali's wrath. (I was pleased to see that there was more dialogue about this at Tali's trial.) She sided with Miranda in the catfight since Jack was so anti-Cerebus and Jack ended up being the token death during the suicide mission. The hardest choice was to sell Legion to Cerebus because I really liked his character. I can't wait to play her in ME3 and see if I can continue to have her realistically be pro-Cerebus until the end. =p

Hah, you think she's going to regret going pro-Cerberus in ME3 ? you should develop a story on that xD
Thank you very mucho

[Gilsa]

Heh, a story would be hard since I started her with a new ME2 game (no imports) so everyone important is automatically dead. When there wasn't a Cerebus angle to play, I would make decisions I hadn't done in other games "just to see" such as getting Tali exiled via sharing evidence about her father.

I glanced at my screenshots quickly to remind myself of any other renegade choices that were decent:
- shooting video screen to get Veector's attention. Just a monitor, no big deal. =p
- At the end of ME1, when it came down to picking between Uldinna and Anderson to lead, I said, "I don't care" and walked away. Still had to pick between one of them at the start of ME2 so I picked Uldinna. Felt good being dick to him no matter what, heh. Wasn't like he was going to do me any favors anyway.
- Pretty sure I got points for agreeing with Mordin about the genophange even though I told him to keep the data in case.
- Renegade with the looters in the apartment (Mordin recruitment). Told them stealing from the dead was pretty low.
- Omega: Renegade with the batarian punks in the hallway. They had a gun and got aggressive. Nothing mean about pulling a gun right back on them because you are making sure they know not to start something with you.
- Omega (Mordin recruit): When you find the "sick" krogan and go renegade, you are like a drill sergeant telling him to man up, that krogans don't lie down and take it. Tough, but you are taking this option because you care. To leave him behind would be worse.
- Renegade conversation at the party (Kasumi mission) with Donovan Hock is pretty civilized. Easy points for just chit chatting.
- When you are at the citadel, you are merely driving a hard bargain with retailers by asking for discounts. I've always felt the paragon option was more hypocritical if you did that at more than one store since they can't ALL be your favorite store. Much more honest and upfront to just haggle. Avoid renegade at gift shop though. I was so shocked at how that turned out. =p
- When you see the wounded merc on Grunt's recruitment mission, renegade is merely instructing the guy to give bad directions or he'll have problems. The really dick move would be to ignore both paragon/renegade dialogue, allow him to radio the other team, and then take the renegade choice to shoot him. (It makes me laugh though.)
- Renegade with the reporter about the battle is not allowing her to disrespect the dead. Dick is punching her, heh.
- Tali is still impressed if you go renegade at her trial because it's so passionate and you are basically saying how dare you spring her father's death on her like this, what's wrong with you people.

I talked tough with Jack and Grunt because that was essentially the language they understood and appreciated. I was just tired of Jack's attitude and she even turned around and said she liked that I was telling her to grow up. Pretty sure I got small renegade points as I went along. Even when there's a poker game with the crew, renegade is "remember I'm the boss" and I'd win the card game. It played out like I was bluffing by trying to intimidate them and they had a laugh anyway.

Hope all that helps to lessen any apprehension about picking renegade lines. It's not all bad.

[JamieCOTC]

I have two renegades.


Erica (solider and getting a haircut in ME3) is a total pragmatist and will do anything to get the job done whether that is giving David up to Cerberus or comforting a squadmate to get through a difficult moment. She's much more of a renegon.


Diana (Infiltrator and also getting a haircut in ME3) is a renegade w/ a speck of paragon and is pro-human. Though she agrees w/ some of the actions taken by Cerberus she doesn't trust TIM and blew up the base.

Both of these femsheps made decisions I would never have made and it was actually quite liberating. Erica was a lot of fun as she became more paragon as the first game went on. In ME2 she went by the creed "What Would Kaidan Do?"


Kaidan:Shepard, I ...
Shepard: Don't talk to me.

As for our Shepards rallying the MP troops, that would be great. Even if not I play to make some sort of backstory for one or two of them. I know my Vanguard will have a fangirl crush on UJ.

Speaking of MP, just saw this by Patrick Weekes. "ME3 has a lot of female fans. Some may play MP with you. Take it as a chance to prove that our fans are friendly cool folks."
https://twitter.com/...158235309113345

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 22 février 2012 - 03:32 .

[Chignon]

Well, I had a blast today in the MP with Aislinn, silverhammer and Ottemis! Thanks for letting me join your awesome team.



And here's something more OT:

[Silver]

@Chig
Aww, thanks, we had fun too

[sagefic]

JamieCOTC wrote...
Speaking of MP, just saw this by Patrick Weekes. "ME3 has a lot of female fans. Some may play MP with you. Take it as a chance to prove that our fans are friendly cool folks."
https://twitter.com/...158235309113345

heh, saw that.

i'm going to assume that was meant for mouth-breathing troglodytes to be nice to us girl players?  i appreciate the nod to us girl gamers, but 
the females ARE the fans, so we don't need anyone to prove that the fans are friendly.

but i think i get what he was saying. as for myself, 1) i ignore internet morons, male or female and if people are mean, i won't grace their games with my company and 2) that was clearly not aimed at the people i play with - namely, you guys. so far, mp has been great.

Modifié par sagequeen, 22 février 2012 - 03:53 .

[JamieCOTC]

sagequeen wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...
Speaking of MP, just saw this by Patrick Weekes. "ME3 has a lot of female fans. Some may play MP with you. Take it as a chance to prove that our fans are friendly cool folks."
https://twitter.com/...158235309113345

heh, saw that.

i'm going to assume that was meant for mouth-breathing troglodytes to be nice to us girl players?  i appreciate the nod to us girl gamers, but 
the females ARE the fans, so we don't need anyone to prove that the fans are friendly.

but i think i get what he was saying. as for myself, 1) i ignore internet morons, male or female and if people are mean, i won't grace their games with my company and 2) that was clearly not aimed at the people i play with - namely, you guys. so far, mp has been great.

Something someone tweeted to me.  Not exactly femshep related, but close enough.

Some Words About a Game. A good read about a girl and her passion for video games.

[meonlyred]

Geirahod has new arts!

[Ottemis]

Awesum new arts are awesum!

[kuoleman]

^ I really did enjoy that. I can agree that the Mass Effect experience has helped me to see 'I'm not alone.' And if at first I shied away from the MP aspec, I now embrace as one more way to connect with fellow females... that I never knew existed! Hopefully, this encourages younger generations of females to not be afraid.

EDIT: For wrong usage of know.

Modifié par kuoleman, 22 février 2012 - 04:11 .

[sagefic]

JamieCOTC wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...
Speaking of MP, just saw this by Patrick Weekes. "ME3 has a lot of female fans. Some may play MP with you. Take it as a chance to prove that our fans are friendly cool folks."
https://twitter.com/...158235309113345

heh, saw that.

i'm going to assume that was meant for mouth-breathing troglodytes to be nice to us girl players?  i appreciate the nod to us girl gamers, but 
the females ARE the fans, so we don't need anyone to prove that the fans are friendly.

but i think i get what he was saying. as for myself, 1) i ignore internet morons, male or female and if people are mean, i won't grace their games with my company and 2) that was clearly not aimed at the people i play with - namely, you guys. so far, mp has been great.

Something someone tweeted to me.  Not exactly femshep related, but close enough.

Some Words About a Game. A good read about a girl and her passion for video games.

very cool post. thanks for sharing

[Chignon]

@Red: Wow. Geira gets better and better.

Modifié par Chignon, 22 février 2012 - 04:11 .

[Ottemis]

Chignon wrote...

@Red: Wow. Geira gets better and better.

more MP soon, was cool =)

[SaturnRing]

Gilsa wrote...

Heh, a story would be hard since I started her with a new ME2 game (no imports) so everyone important is automatically dead. When there wasn't a Cerebus angle to play, I would make decisions I hadn't done in other games "just to see" such as getting Tali exiled via sharing evidence about her father.

I glanced at my screenshots quickly to remind myself of any other renegade choices that were decent:
- shooting video screen to get Veector's attention. Just a monitor, no big deal. =p
- At the end of ME1, when it came down to picking between Uldinna and Anderson to lead, I said, "I don't care" and walked away. Still had to pick between one of them at the start of ME2 so I picked Uldinna. Felt good being dick to him no matter what, heh. Wasn't like he was going to do me any favors anyway.
- Pretty sure I got points for agreeing with Mordin about the genophange even though I told him to keep the data in case.
- Renegade with the looters in the apartment (Mordin recruitment). Told them stealing from the dead was pretty low.
- Omega: Renegade with the batarian punks in the hallway. They had a gun and got aggressive. Nothing mean about pulling a gun right back on them because you are making sure they know not to start something with you.
- Omega (Mordin recruit): When you find the "sick" krogan and go renegade, you are like a drill sergeant telling him to man up, that krogans don't lie down and take it. Tough, but you are taking this option because you care. To leave him behind would be worse.
- Renegade conversation at the party (Kasumi mission) with Donovan Hock is pretty civilized. Easy points for just chit chatting.
- When you are at the citadel, you are merely driving a hard bargain with retailers by asking for discounts. I've always felt the paragon option was more hypocritical if you did that at more than one store since they can't ALL be your favorite store. Much more honest and upfront to just haggle. Avoid renegade at gift shop though. I was so shocked at how that turned out. =p
- When you see the wounded merc on Grunt's recruitment mission, renegade is merely instructing the guy to give bad directions or he'll have problems. The really dick move would be to ignore both paragon/renegade dialogue, allow him to radio the other team, and then take the renegade choice to shoot him. (It makes me laugh though.)
- Renegade with the reporter about the battle is not allowing her to disrespect the dead. Dick is punching her, heh.
- Tali is still impressed if you go renegade at her trial because it's so passionate and you are basically saying how dare you spring her father's death on her like this, what's wrong with you people.

I talked tough with Jack and Grunt because that was essentially the language they understood and appreciated. I was just tired of Jack's attitude and she even turned around and said she liked that I was telling her to grow up. Pretty sure I got small renegade points as I went along. Even when there's a poker game with the crew, renegade is "remember I'm the boss" and I'd win the card game. It played out like I was bluffing by trying to intimidate them and they had a laugh anyway.

Hope all that helps to lessen any apprehension about picking renegade lines. It's not all bad.

Pretty much how i play it; as long as people don't start dying, or a serious breach of loyalty is involved...my motivations are maxing out on renegades points before interrogating Elias Kelham. Having the first renegade option blank feels out of character for someone like Shepard.


@raziel1980: same for me, no matter how many times i play it i don't allow a single death in my crew and teammates.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 22 février 2012 - 04:21 .

[Hyper_gateway]

After countless attempts, a solo Bronze is managable!

Modifié par Hyper_gateway, 22 février 2012 - 04:47 .