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[f1r3storm]

She may be skinny, but she hits hard.

[Labrev]

 I support this ... my femsheps going into ME3:


Erika:





Abby:





Anne:



I really love how Anne is my toughest Shepard out of seven total, including males. "Tough" by virtue of having off-the-charts health (500+ pts. LOL).

[Hyper_gateway]

JamieCOTC wrote...

@Unbannable

Then don't play her. Problem solved.

I can't take maleShep seriously sometimes. I won't say why 'cause that dead horse is glue by now.

And I thought someone said that he is heading to bed XD

Gotcha!

@Unbannable
Your point has been taken and noticed, lets move on.

None of my other femshep like to punch people but my canon is just...... <_<

Modifié par Hyper_gateway, 27 janvier 2012 - 07:40 .

[Sinapus]

f1r3storm wrote...

She may be skinny, but she hits hard.
*snip*

Beyond the impossible hard, sometimes.



Edit:
@Hyper: All I can really say about it is... on the last panel.

Modifié par Sinapus, 27 janvier 2012 - 07:47 .

[meonlyred]

Yes, clearly Femshep belongs in the kitchen, thank you for clearing that up for us, Unbannable. My, how wrong have we been for liking a customizable strong female character who acts gender neutral, who we can shape and make how ever we see her. My next Shepard I make I'll make to make her absolutely hideous because we know only ugly women can fight.

Oh wait I'm getting sarcastic again, silly me. I find the model comment beyond funny considering default male Shepard is based on Mark Vanderloo a Dutch underwear model, as Sage tried to explain. Where Female Shepard was a generic place holder, most people here ignore and make up our own Femshep in varying levels of ugliness and beauty.

You do realize that Femshep has the same body model as every other female body model in the game, yes? Kelly, Ashley, Liara, Chakwas, random NPC #1. Just as Maleshep has the same body model as Kaidan, Joker, Conrad, Anderson, etc. Everyone but Jack and Miranda they are all the same bodies from the head down. In a game developers point of view its an easy cheap way of modeling all the character in the game. You just have to switch out the heads and tada everyone is modeled. Or would you like them to spead months modeling Little Miss So-and-so because she should look like this and Whats-her-name because she should look like that. They could have choosen to make everyone look like your over weight average joe or they can bench press a tank. OR you can give everyone a body type that is very average.

As Jamie said if you have a problem with Femshep there is an option to play a male Commander Shepard.

Modifié par meonlyred, 27 janvier 2012 - 07:58 .

[CrazyRah]

meonlyred wrote...

Yes, clearly Femshep belongs in the kitchen, thank you for clearing that up for us, Unbannable. My, how wrong have we been for liking a customizable strong female character who acts gender neutral, who we can shape and make how ever we see her. My next Shepard I make I'll make to make her absolutely hideous because we know only ugly women can fight.

Oh wait I'm getting sarcastic again, silly me. I find the model comment beyond funny consisting default male Shepard is based on Mark Vanderloo a Dutch underwear model, as Sage tried to explain. Where Female Shepard was a generic place holder, most people here ignore and make up our own Femshep in varying levels of ugliness and beauty.

You do realize that Femshep has the same body model as every other female body model in the game, yes? Kelly, Ashley, Liara, Chakwas, random NCP #1. Just as Maleshep has the same body model as Kaidan, Joker, Conrad, Anderson, etc. Everyone but Jack and Miranda they are all the same bodies from the head down. In a game developers point of view its an easy cheap way of modeling all the character in the game. You just have to switch out the heads and tada everyone is modeled. Or would you like them to spead months modeling Little Miss So-and-so because she should look like this and Whats-her-name because she should look like that. They could have choicen to make everyone look like your over weight average joe or they can bench press a tank. OR you can give everyone a body type that is very average.

As Jamie said if you have a problem with Femshep there is a option to play a male Commander Shepard.
*snip*

Oh Red i love you so much right now <3
You're just amazing <3

I would probably say something myself about this crap but i got way better things to do. All i will say is deal with it and play MaleShep then.


"If we look away it will be gone right Hackett?"

[Sinapus]

Okay, "Unbannable" didn't seem to be saying "stay in the kitchen" just "women too weak" judging from today's standards and not considering the body mods/boosting available in the late 22nd Century that can make a "skinny" woman (or man, for that matter) tough enough to run around planets as a commando.



"Don't make me come in there..."

[thompsmt]

sagequeen wrote...

Okay, question time:

As you are about to import your FemShep into Mass Effect 3, are there any decisions that you

a) Worry about the consequences of
and
Would have done differently if you had time for another playthrough?

a.  Geth.   Renée, my main, is rather concered about destroying the station being correct.  Part of her wonders if having more expendable robotic storm troopers War capable AI's would be a good idea.  Otherwise, not much.

b.  There's not time for another playthrough?!

OTOH, with the current debate topic, on if FemShep looks like she could be a commando, my guess is the Alliance prefers endurance over explosive power.  If she can't keep going, what use is that sort of training.  I've also seen some rather skinny US Marines in my time.  Don't talk to me about sailors; we have too many fat slobs.  I work for a guy who's a marathon runner, though.  Renée, in my headcannon, ran triathalons before she started spending all her time in space.  If she ever learned how to cross country ski, she'd take up biathalon (rifle shooting and skiing).

[KyreneZA]

sagequeen wrote...

Okay, question time:

As you are about to import your FemShep into Mass Effect 3, are there any decisions that you

a) Worry about the consequences of
and
Would have done differently if you had time for another playthrough?

Yes (but I look forward to dealing with them)

No (that last one with Kassia was the last one, even if it surprised me with its outcome)

Chocolate Shepard:

[Mischuge77]

they gotta be releasing the femshep trailer today...o.o.....

[f1r3storm]

They won't.

[Unbannable]

jeweledleah wrote...

unaccountably skinny? (yes I had to latch on to that one)

I feel like posting images of various soldiers and athletes that are actually skinnier then femshep, including those that can do things with their bodies, most MEN would only dream of.  muscle size is far from primary sign of strength.  and before power lifters are brought up - their strength is of a different variety.

Although that would be far beyond the scope of this thread, I wouldn't mind seeing it.

And as I mentioned before, muscle size and muscle strength are inextricably related.  Lifting heavy weight, especially with explosive force, will cause your muscles to not only grow in size, but to grow in strength as well.

Thats not to say that muscle size is the primary factor behind strength however, but it's definitely one of the principal ones.

"skinny" =/= weak and/or frail

I would agree that being skinny doesn't automatically make one weak or frail.  However, I've never seen a genuinely strong skinny person. 

[Drone223]

Mischuge77 wrote...

they gotta be releasing the femshep trailer today...o.o.....

The trailer will proberly be released shortly before the ME3 demo

[Mischuge77]

f1r3storm wrote...

They won't.

yeah i guess your right, but it would be great to see the trailer soon

[Mischuge77]

Drone223 wrote...

Mischuge77 wrote...

they gotta be releasing the femshep trailer today...o.o.....

The trailer will proberly be released shortly before the ME3 demo

probably...gotta wait a litlle more i hope it will be great

[Unbannable]

meonlyred wrote...

Oh wait I'm getting sarcastic again, silly me. I find the model comment beyond funny considering default male Shepard is based on Mark Vanderloo a Dutch underwear model, as Sage tried to explain. Where Female Shepard was a generic place holder, most people here ignore and make up our own Femshep in varying levels of ugliness and beauty.

FemShep/MaleShep's beauty is irrelevent as I have noted several times.  The major problem with FemShep, is that she doesn't look the part, and by looks, I mean her body type.

You do realize that Femshep has the same body model as every other female body model in the game, yes? Kelly, Ashley, Liara, Chakwas, random NPC #1

Yes, and thats a severe oversight from Bioware, seeing as Shepard is the primary PC.

Just as Maleshep has the same body model as Kaidan, Joker, Conrad, Anderson, etc. Everyone but Jack and Miranda they are all the same bodies from the head down. In a game developers point of view its an easy cheap way of modeling all the character in the game. You just have to switch out the heads and tada everyone is modeled. Or would you like them to spead months modeling Little Miss So-and-so because she should look like this and Whats-her-name because she should look like that. They could have choosen to make everyone look like your over weight average joe or they can bench press a tank. OR you can give everyone a body type that is very average.

So basically, you don't care about whether FemShep looks like she's capable of doing the things ascribed to her?

I suspected as much.  Thats how Bioware can get away with doing things like this, because the only thing FemShep players care about, are aesthetic qualities like hair color, hair length, freckles, bust size and other nonsense..

Bioware couldn't get away with making a MaleShep with spindly looking arms and a giraffe neck, because there'd be a revolt.

As Jamie said if you have a problem with Femshep there is an option to play a male Commander Shepard.

 
Oh believe me I do..  Although like most people here, I wanted to do a play through with both sexes...

[Jane Shepard]

sagequeen wrote...

Okay, question time:

As you are about to import your FemShep into Mass Effect 3, are there any decisions that you

a) Worry about the consequences of
and
Would have done differently if you had time for another playthrough?

a) Yes, some of the consequences. For example Kaidan won't be happy to see me with Jacob now. But he made his choice as I am. Or destroying the Collector base... Maybe the Illusive Man was right that it could help us to stop the Reapers. But I won't give him the base anyway.

No, I woudn't do otherwise. I like the choices I made. So I can say I have everything I need to start ME3 the way I want

[f1r3storm]

Unbannable wrote...

So basically, you don't care about whether FemShep looks like she's capable of doing the things ascribed to her?

Yeah, because she totally looks like she isn't. Durr...

Modifié par f1r3storm, 27 janvier 2012 - 10:05 .

[Mischuge77]

now i can see on fb what will be the new trailer all about....well gotta wait for the femshep trailer....but they taking so long for it...they should have thought of the femshep marketing earlier

[meonlyred]

So when you were referring to her "age and weariness" and "she wears makeup, is unaccountably skinny, and is very attractive" you were speaking solely about her body, right?

This high horse that you are on is exhausting considering this is the also the same game that has space magic. And you are nitpicking the female character's body because, to you she doesn't look buff enough. What exactly is a female soldier supposed to look like since we are so clearly uneducated?

I don't care in the fact that I would rather have them focus on more important aspects of the game like: plot, combat, physics.

[jeweledleah]

Unbannable wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

unaccountably skinny? (yes I had to latch on to that one)

I feel like posting images of various soldiers and athletes that are actually skinnier then femshep, including those that can do things with their bodies, most MEN would only dream of.  muscle size is far from primary sign of strength.  and before power lifters are brought up - their strength is of a different variety.

Although that would be far beyond the scope of this thread, I wouldn't mind seeing it.

And as I mentioned before, muscle size and muscle strength are inextricably related.  Lifting heavy weight, especially with explosive force, will cause your muscles to not only grow in size, but to grow in strength as well.

Thats not to say that muscle size is the primary factor behind strength however, but it's definitely one of the principal ones.

"skinny" =/= weak and/or frail

I would agree that being skinny doesn't automatically make one weak or frail.  However, I've never seen a genuinely strong skinny person. 

oh really?

  gymnast.  to do what she does?  takes concidernable strength and coordination.  but notice her build.

or speaking of gymnasts - girls from Cirque de Soleil - aerial gymnastics require high strength, coordination and endurance to perform

http://ronin5.com/fi...Satoko_Shinashi what she looks like

and for that matter - very strong and agile male... notice his size

not exactly a big, super defined bodybuilder... one could even say, he's a bit skinny.

muscle size and definition is secondary to strength.  there's a reason why strength training is NOT the same as bodybuilding.  granted, fitness competitors do both, but they specificaly have to train for strength in addition to training for size.  and professional fitness competitors have to train and diet like crazy just to look like this

that's 2008 natural (as in - no steroids of any kind) Figure competition winner you are looking at.

or look up pretty much any marathon runner, male OR female.  and at least half the swimmers.

women as a rule have harder time to gain size - because we are not predisposed for size.  women could STILL get pretty damn strong even without genetic modifications of the future, but women simply cannot geneticaly be as big as the males.  compare the biggest female bodybuilder to biggest male bdybuilder.  don't even take biggest (or tallest)  male.  take someone like Lee Priest in his prime (who is 5.4) and compare him to, say Lenda Murray who is 5.5 (aka taller) and is 8 times Ms Olympia... and Priest is still going to be bigger.

but back to my point.  unless specificaly training for size and definition, a typical woman no matter how strong is not going to be particularely big, or particularely cut.  and femshep?  she'd be training for strength and endurance, not for size and/or definition.  and if she just happens to naturaly be an ectomorph, gaining size would be a doubly uphill battle.

in conclusion.  femshep's size is perfectly beleivable, especialy when you concider that enhancements are done for future soldiers on regular basis.

in other words - your perceptions are completely and utterly skewed, and your expectations are unrealistic and far to influenced by the media.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 27 janvier 2012 - 10:30 .

[Ottemis]

Unbannable wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...
"skinny" =/= weak and/or frail

I would agree that being skinny doesn't automatically make one weak or frail.  However, I've never seen a genuinely strong skinny person. 

Don't need to be strong if you're smart about it and/or have proper aim. Knowing your limitations doesn't make you asmuch limited as it does resourcefully persistent.
I am not strong, nor do I look it, but I'm persistent and stubborn, so when an 80kilo fridge needs to be carried up two flights of stairs, I do it. Not on pure muscle, willpower.

Also this subject is an old cow.
If people want to be childish about this, let them, and screw it. That's all I'll say about that.

Modifié par Ottemis, 27 janvier 2012 - 10:40 .

[McManus001]

Ottemis wrote...

Unbannable wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...
"skinny" =/= weak and/or frail

I would agree that being skinny doesn't automatically make one weak or frail.  However, I've never seen a genuinely strong skinny person. 

Don't need to be strong if you're smart about it and/or have proper aim. Knowing your limitations doesn't make you asmuch limited as it does resourcefully persistent.

Also this subject is an old cow.
If people want to be childish about this, let them, and screw it. That's all I'll say about that.

plus dont forget shes wearing metal armor

[CrazyRah]

"Okey Garrus i give you one last chance to stop staring at my ass or else i will make sure not even a drunk Krogan would want to see your face!"

[meonlyred]

Garrus know you got it covered.